The state of the NHS laid bare in one video... Pinderfields General Hospital, Wakefield, West Yorkshire

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Video posted outside Pinderfields General Hospital a couple of hours ago. No capacity in resus areas, no trollies to offload patients from ambulances. Which in turn means people in the community waiting hours and hours for emergency 999 calls.

People say health care professionals went into the job knowing what they was getting into.. not one nurse I know (or Dr or paramedic or HCA) went into their job knowing this would be their reality. This is why people are leaving, why people are striking. Its not just about pay, its about working conditions. Pay does play a part admittedly, the pay doesn't marry up with the level of responsibility, the level of stress, the level of upset caused by knowing you're going home after knowing not one patient has had your absolute best all day.. because its impossible to achieve.

This is the reality of the NHS 💔

We don't train enough doctors to cover our current needs. And if doctors in training are already thinking of leaving (as in the papers), well that means we need to train even more. We are reliant on doctors trained overseas. And I can't see that changing.

We can’t retain the staff we have, let alone train and recruit more.

Absolute bollocks regarding top heavy management. Most managers otherwise known as senior nurses are clinically based be it in the community or in hospitals.
Absolutely agree with the comments re inappropriate use of A/E and hoards of family members gawping at unfolding events, hangers on eager to watch some 'reality TV' type entertainment at first hand. events
The NHS has slowly been stealthily and not so stealthily privatised for years. Hinchingbrooke hospital anyone ? Now that was a success.
What is ironic is the fact the elderly who voted in their droves for the Conservatives and Brexit are the ones to be hardest hit by the chaos in the NHS and social care system.

In 2010 70% of us were satisfied with NHS care. There was a 48 hour target for GP appointments and waiting lists were at a historical low.

The figures for today are that only 36% (and falling) are satisfied with the NHS, there's a 336 hour target for a GP appointment, and waiting lists are at a historic high.

This has happened in 12 years.

It's not 'the system' that's the problem - if it was the NHS wouldn't have been performing so well 12 years that it was deemed in independent research to be one of the most effective, accessible and best value for money healthcare systems in the world.

The problem isn't the method of funding. It's not just hospitals. The problem is that the meltdown in A&E and primary care is how 12 years of austerity has manifested. Conservatives have trashed public services, destroyed the morale of public sector workers and damaged public health to the extent that hour healthcare system is now in collapse. Ditto social care. Ditto social services. Ditto children's service. Ditto prisons. Ditto the probation service. Ditto addiction services. Ditto youth services. And where does all the crap end up? In A&E, on the shoulders of the police, and in primary care.

The devastating thing is that that they've damaged the social fabric of this country to the point that I can't imagine anyone every being able to put it right. It's tragic.

They can be both though ? I did a home visit to an elderly man last week who came over from India to live with his son about 3 years ago. In that time he has been treated in hospital numerous times for stroke, heart attacks etc and is now bedbound and reliant on carers 4 times a day. Family live in tiny hose and are very poor so I can only think that the care is being paid for ? To be clear he has never ever worked in the UK. Now I completely understand that a compassionate society cannot just leave him without care but in my home town, over 50% of the population are of asian heritage and this happens over and over.

Meanwhile on the Telegraph front page the smirking face of Johnson talks of a comeback. The Tories have literally broken our country. If we had any sense as a country we would declare a government of national unity and a war like footing. But we won't and part of this, not all of course is that we have spent 5 years and huge amounts of money on Brexit to make ourselves poorer. That video is heartbreaking.

12 years that it was deemed in independent research to be one of the most effective, accessible and best value for money healthcare systems in the world.

Even then it had far poorer health outcomes than the systems of comparable countries e.g. our European neighbours. Not much point in being "accessible" or "value for money" if the health service doesn't, you know, treat people's health effectively. It is not a good model. We can see which models work far better, the international data is clear. We don't need to reinvent the wheel, just copy the systems that actually function and the NHS is not it.

@Babyroobs most working class british folk take more out of the system than they put in. It costs £1k a night as an IP on my unit.

Dont worry, Kier and the cavelry will be here soon to save us all.

Need people to do what? Deliver takeaways on mopeds to people who can't be bothered to collect it? or, god forbid, to cook?

We need people to be doing real, productive jobs. If they aren't, we're better off not having most people.

Exactly! We NEED young immigrants. There's now more people over 65 than under 15 for the first time. There are 20% more over 65 year olds than there were ten years ago. We are making life so unaffordable for young people that the birth rate is a going to drop like a stone. And then who is going to wipe our arses in old age?

The Daily Heil has brainwashed and ruined this country.

The devastating thing is that that they've damaged the social fabric of this country to the point that I can't imagine anyone every being able to put it right. It's tragic.

Same. I think this country is done for

Doctors nurses and staff are already working more hours than are safe, yet the public want them to work 7 days a week for the same pay and no time off to cover the gaps. Doctors are actually leaving the country being told by colleagues that New Zealand etc they will have shorter hours, better pay and protected time off.
we need more staff.
it would be great for Gps to work sat/sun but that means that they need two days off in the week.
shouting at doctors leaving the hospital at midnight for not staying on and working for free doesn’t help either.
If you worked in tesco and they said you needed to work sat/sun for the same pay and no time off of course you’d fucking quit.

Oh and doctors and nhs staff don’t want a private system, but if the system goes fully private their hours reduce, their wages go up and their work life balance improves. But they still want to keep it free at teh point of service

People are so stupid thinking it needs to be privatised. Cos that's gone so well with the railways and water companies, hasn't it 🤔Turkeys voting for Christmas

Also it will be the same limited pool of staff and the same number of people competing for resources. Why do you think outcomes would improve? 🤔

Can’t say I noticed any improvement under Blair.

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You can bet your last penny that it would change if a Tories elderly parent was waiting hours for an ambulance and then waiting more hours on a trolley in a corridor in agony.

Nice image of Blair, that’s exactly what he is. I’m not a fan of either party, they are all self serving, but please don’t pretend Labour made things any better when they were in, or will do when next in.

I presume they are in emergencies. There aren’t any private options for emergencies in this country are there?

Can’t say I noticed any improvement under Blair.

that's weird because New Labour introduced the 4 hour (in A&E) target & many hospitals actually met it for initial years. Also things like 2WW & 18 week wait targets: introduced & often met initially.

Maybe New Labour was wrong to set those targets.

They'd probably call out their private doctor first, then send them to a private hospital for treatment.

Private hospitals can't get staff either!

And as research and evidence shows, non specialist, non tertiary centre care results in poorer outcomes in this country.

If you're involved in a big trauma - you want to go to the NHS trauma centre, if you have a big cardiac event - you want to go to the nearest cardiac centre etc. Private is fine for the luxuries to get you through a bunion opp maybe bit this country does not have a viable, safe and well resources alternative for when your life and functions are on the line.

People aren't parasites.

The thought of sitting in this country accusing others of being Third World, given the state were in, is so arrogant. Especially given our NHS is basically staffed by the skilled and caring professionals we can't provide for ourselves and deprive their home countries of