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Wont stop asking!

852 replies

Castleontheisland · 28/12/2022 05:05

Name changed for this as my other threads are quite outing. Sorry its long!

Me and partner are away for a few days over Christmas, our next door neighbour has a spare key for our house for emergencies (we have their spare house key as well). We are not close friends just normal neighbours, They have had family visiting over Christmas/new year. On boxing day they text me and asked if some of their family could sleep in our home as more of the family had arrive unexpectedly! We said no because beds need changing and heating not on etc.(also I dont want strangers in my home)Well since then we have had text after text asking over and over again! I have also repeatedly tried to ring them but they are not picking up! The last one was very late last night (I was already in bed asleep)asking again and saying the family who they want to stay's car has broken down! I feel like packing up here and going home now as so worried they will just use my house anyway! I dont have any friends or family nearby who can check on my home. My partner has said they surely wont just use our house but I'm not sure they wont. 😥

OP posts:
SomethingOriginal2 · 28/12/2022 10:18

Inkpotlover · 28/12/2022 10:13

I think they keep asking because they've already been using OP's house and something has happened, like a breakage, and they now need her permission so they can pretend the incident/breakage occurred AFTER she let them stay, not before. They are clearly panicking given the bombardment of messages plus the fact they won't pick up calls now.

I agree with this.

OP make sure your family knock and take her key back. I absolutely would not want her having a key anymore.

lightisnotwhite · 28/12/2022 10:21

SoupDragon · 28/12/2022 09:35

Then why suggest something so bloody stupid?

Calm down.
It’s not stupid. Why is it stupid? Yes leaving it regularly by the back door in the gutter or by a flower pot is obvious and daft especially if the neighbours overlook you.
This is a one off and it’s dark by 4pm. Sticking a key in a small plastic bag and burying it in a pot is unlikely to found by chance . Pretty sure most people could manage it subtly without neighbours seeing too.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 28/12/2022 10:23

I think they keep asking because they've already been using OP's house and something has happened, like a breakage, and they now need her permission so they can pretend the incident/breakage occurred AFTER she let them stay, not before

I hadn't thought of that, but yes it's credible - and just lends more urgency to getting those keys back and maybe even changing the locks

Ursuladevine · 28/12/2022 10:24

dexterslockedintheshedagain · 28/12/2022 09:47

That's your HOME!!!! I am livid on your behalf, OP. How dare they even THINK that would be acceptable????!!!!

Precisely

so why give keys to people you don’t know very well and aren’t close to?

Ursuladevine · 28/12/2022 10:27

lightcurtains · 28/12/2022 09:19

I know this might sound drastic but I'd be tempted to call the police.
They cannot stay in your house. That is bang out of order. They've asked and you've said no - End Of.
It's so frustrating. I know I wouldn't be able to relax thinking there were people staying in my house!

What would you actually say to the police?

Op: I have my house keys to my neighbour and… they’re using my house for friends to stay overnight!!!!!

police: “you gave them keys?

op: yes

police: please do not waste police time

Itschristmastimeinthecity · 28/12/2022 10:28

Audacity must be 2 for 1 this time of year...

hour1208 · 28/12/2022 10:29

I would ask another local person to pop round and check what is going on at your home. If you have nobody to ask then perhaps you could go home early.

HavfrueDenizKisi · 28/12/2022 10:32

Littlebluedinosaur · 28/12/2022 10:15

This is the worst CF thing I’ve read!

Ha ha! You clearly haven't read the Mexican House Thief thread.

emptythelitterbox · 28/12/2022 10:32

lightisnotwhite · 28/12/2022 10:21

Calm down.
It’s not stupid. Why is it stupid? Yes leaving it regularly by the back door in the gutter or by a flower pot is obvious and daft especially if the neighbours overlook you.
This is a one off and it’s dark by 4pm. Sticking a key in a small plastic bag and burying it in a pot is unlikely to found by chance . Pretty sure most people could manage it subtly without neighbours seeing too.

I wouldn't leave any keys around the home. Burglars know every trick. It'd likely void your home insurance too.

Change locks to keyless keypad entry locks.

Easy installation and able to change the code without hassle.

Ursuladevine · 28/12/2022 10:33

Castleontheisland · 28/12/2022 08:37

Thank you all for your kind support and advice it is much appreciated. I have text 4 times and I have also left a voicemail this morning. Still not picking up. My sisters husband is leaving work early today and picking my sister and my mum up and the 3 of them are going to check my house (its about 80 to 90 minutes drive away for them)

You and your partner don’t have a single friend in your home vicinity that they could pop over? You only have your sister to ask who lives 80/90 mins away?

dcut · 28/12/2022 10:34

I think the family are already staying there. It's outrageous.
Good that you are sending someone round to check. I think you should ask them to get the key back from the neighbour even if it turns out the people aren't staying there. They can't be trusted.

ConfusedmumUC · 28/12/2022 10:35

This is WILD!

Who even thinks like this? I can’t think of anyone I know or have ever met who would just invite their whole family to stay in a strangers house 🤣 it’s terrifying people like this exist in the world honestly.

Also the 3% that think this isn’t unreasonable, please explain yourselves 😂

Littlebluedinosaur · 28/12/2022 10:38

HavfrueDenizKisi · 28/12/2022 10:32

Ha ha! You clearly haven't read the Mexican House Thief thread.

I have not!

ConfusedmumUC · 28/12/2022 10:38

Ursuladevine · 28/12/2022 10:27

What would you actually say to the police?

Op: I have my house keys to my neighbour and… they’re using my house for friends to stay overnight!!!!!

police: “you gave them keys?

op: yes

police: please do not waste police time

I’m not sure I agree with this? The op clearly means the keys were for emergencies whilst they were away, at no point did she agree for them to move their family in! If you give your car keys to the concierge at a hotel and they drive off in it for a long weekend… is that ok because you GAVE them the keys?

oakleaffy · 28/12/2022 10:39

dolor · 28/12/2022 05:12

Sounds like they've already done it.

@Castleontheisland
I had this actually happen!!
I had a lodger, and lodger knew I’d be away for weeks in school hols.

Came back and my sheets were dirty, and that of son!

An elderly neighbour said “ Your Lodger had all his friends at yours, staying!-“

After that I got a locks on doors.
( Victorian houses often have locks already on doors)

You’ll know if people have been in
A complete CHEEK

You are not an air B&B!

oakleaffy · 28/12/2022 10:39

Goodness knows why my text looks so huge?!

MarvelMrs · 28/12/2022 10:40

Tell them no as their guests would be very uncomfortable with the CCTV cameras that you have in each room including the bathroom.😉

Overreactionpossibly · 28/12/2022 10:41

To be honest, knocking half way through the day is probably a bit pointless. If they are using the house without permission, they are probably only sleeping there and are all together in the relatives home the rest of the time.

Is their another neighbour that your brother could give your number to to check whether there are lights on late at night?

Ursuladevine · 28/12/2022 10:42

ConfusedmumUC · 28/12/2022 10:38

I’m not sure I agree with this? The op clearly means the keys were for emergencies whilst they were away, at no point did she agree for them to move their family in! If you give your car keys to the concierge at a hotel and they drive off in it for a long weekend… is that ok because you GAVE them the keys?

the op knows she meant for the keys to be used in an emergency

but absolutely no proof of that is there

she could well have said “here’s my keys, help yourself when we are away”

RosesAndHellebores · 28/12/2022 10:43

Wherever we have lived, during the last 40 years, I've held spare keys for the neighbours and they ours. It's a shame that one family can destroy neighbourly communities.

I don't think the police would do anything but I think it's trespass. The neighbour does not have your permission to enter. You could reasonably sue for the cost of replacing any keys and any damage that has been caused. Unlikely to get you anywhere though as these are people.who don't appear to have the funds to book a couple of rooms in a Premier Inn or Travel Lodge.

Shinyandnew1 · 28/12/2022 10:43

That’s good you have your sister going round to check. I would be getting her to take the key back.

Has she sent any more texts asking if they can stay, since you tried ringing her?

Kennykenkencat · 28/12/2022 10:43

If they had stayed there the heating bills alone would give it away

i have an energy company app and it tells me how much energy has been used daily

If there is a spike you will know

Ursuladevine · 28/12/2022 10:44

oakleaffy · 28/12/2022 10:39

@Castleontheisland
I had this actually happen!!
I had a lodger, and lodger knew I’d be away for weeks in school hols.

Came back and my sheets were dirty, and that of son!

An elderly neighbour said “ Your Lodger had all his friends at yours, staying!-“

After that I got a locks on doors.
( Victorian houses often have locks already on doors)

You’ll know if people have been in
A complete CHEEK

You are not an air B&B!

Did you kick the lodger out?

Ursuladevine · 28/12/2022 10:45

RosesAndHellebores · 28/12/2022 10:43

Wherever we have lived, during the last 40 years, I've held spare keys for the neighbours and they ours. It's a shame that one family can destroy neighbourly communities.

I don't think the police would do anything but I think it's trespass. The neighbour does not have your permission to enter. You could reasonably sue for the cost of replacing any keys and any damage that has been caused. Unlikely to get you anywhere though as these are people.who don't appear to have the funds to book a couple of rooms in a Premier Inn or Travel Lodge.

giving the keys to someone is giving them permission to enter

lamaze1 · 28/12/2022 10:46

Apologies if someone has already said this, but if there are people staying there ask your family not to engage other than to say they immediately need to leave within 15-20 mins and thereafter just call the police.

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