Wont stop asking!

[Castleontheisland]

Name changed for this as my other threads are quite outing. Sorry its long!

Me and partner are away for a few days over Christmas, our next door neighbour has a spare key for our house for emergencies (we have their spare house key as well). We are not close friends just normal neighbours, They have had family visiting over Christmas/new year. On boxing day they text me and asked if some of their family could sleep in our home as more of the family had arrive unexpectedly! We said no because beds need changing and heating not on etc.(also I dont want strangers in my home)Well since then we have had text after text asking over and over again! I have also repeatedly tried to ring them but they are not picking up! The last one was very late last night (I was already in bed asleep)asking again and saying the family who they want to stay's car has broken down! I feel like packing up here and going home now as so worried they will just use my house anyway! I dont have any friends or family nearby who can check on my home. My partner has said they surely wont just use our house but I'm not sure they wont. 😥

I had a feeling there might be more to come out. It was unlikely they’d go from 0 to CF in one go.

I think the secrecy, avoidance and lying make the whole thing so much worse.

Wow what a CF.
You could maybe ask your community police for advice.
Not sure they can do much as they had a key but it does sound like she needs something official to make her see it's not on .
She had the key for emergencies not to let her family watch football .
It's a shame you have given her her keys back I would of gone round and let myself in and put a load of washing on 🤣.

No I’m not, I remember that thread though. I’m a lot less meek than that poster and I had it out with the people that abused the emergency key (which was in a fucking hidden key safe at my property, not even with them) and they played the victims for a long time. I told anyone that would listen what they’d done though and the general outrage from others soon put the kibosh on their act.

I cannot believe she threatened you, OP. They’re unbelievable arseholes with no idea how to behave.

I second speaking to community support officer about it. They can advise and maybe talk to your neighbours. The comment about her daughter being confrontational where did that come from? If from your neighbour it comes across as quite threatening - maybe worth mentioning to pcso as well.

I thought they were CFs before but this takes them to a new level. I do think a solicitor letter may be a good way to go

Your comments about your neighbour’s general demeanour plus the comment about the daughter shows that they are just bloody entitled and will never think they have done anything wrong. In their eyes you will be over reacting because you were not there to use the house/sky/drive so what is the problem

I don’t think they would take any notice of a community police officer but something formal in writing may be enough to make them realise that they have been out of order

I would also do this. I was irritated about my neighbors just entering in my garden without permission. I’d be apoplectic if someone was using my house as their own.

Take some comfort over how this will play out over the coming months.
Everyone you tell will be amazed at the CFery, and sympathise with you

They feel they were entitled to access you property. Every time they tell anyone about your reaction to it, their audience will be horrified and disgusted with them

Hopefully the confrontational daughter will think twice if you have got a camera recording the property. If you haven't, definitely get a Ring doorbell which will likely be cheaper than a solicitor letter, will be a deterrent to future behaviour and will record it if their DD kicks off.

Perhaps the only way to "explain" to these neighbours is to treat their house as an extension of your own.

If you feel the urge to drive the message home, knock on their door, when they open it, barge past them, go into the living room, take the remote control and change the channel to something you want to watch. Go to their fridge and take food out of it. Use their toilet. Drink their drinks.
Then say "Do you get it now?"

You'd love to do something like that but no one would...except they did just while you weren't there.

How awful for you. I'd feel sick at the thought of strange men and random kids having the run of my house.

I'd hang fire on solicitor letters for a couple of weeks though to see if the neighbour or daughter harasses you and if they do, then I'd spend the money on a solicitor and also involve the local police if you're threatened.

It's a shame you have given her her keys back I would of gone round and let myself in and put a load of washing on

I'd be tempted to hint that I'd given the original back because I'd had a copy taken, and how much I was looking forward to them going on their holidays . . .

As for the "confrontational" daughter - I would relish this. A shouting match in the public street (let her shout - you just keep your cool) would bring everybody out and they would all see what a cheeky cow she is.

Unless this is your 'forever home' and you'll never want to sell, I wouldn't do anything 'official' or that creates a paper trail (like a solicitor letter) unless there are further incidences. You've secured your property with new locks & camera and fixed it so the drive can't be used. All of this is well in line for people who are just 'security conscious' and wouldn't raise an eyebrow to a potential buyer. Anything further smacks of 'neighbour dispute' which may have to be declared.

I'd leave it go unless her daughter raises a stink about not being able to park on your drive. But I doubt she will, even if she is a 'confronting type'. She'd have to be pretty thick to say "How very DARE you block me from parking on your drive! Remove that lock at once!!!".

I'd get a Ring Doorbell though. They're great to have even in the most 'peaceful' of neighbourhoods.

Hello all, yesterday was interesting to say the least! We (partner and I) always spend a easy Sunday at home. I make Sunday roast and we chill out in the house for the day. Maybe a short walk in the afternoon. Next door neighbours daughter and family came about 10.30 ish Sunday morning and parked across our dropped curb drive. If we wanted to go out in the car we would have had to knock and ask them to move. They have never done this before! They went at about 4.30pm.

Next Sunday we will definitely be going out so if they do it again we will tell them to move the car. Another thing we have had, but never really bothered about was on bin day they fill our bin /recycling bin with their overflow of rubbish. We don't have much rubbish due to only being the 2 of us and I have never really minded although they never ever asked if it was OK... Partner has now bought bin locks for our bins 😂

They sound awful.

I'm not certain of this but I think it's against the law to block a car in (but not illegal to block access to a driveway). If they do it again, call the police and tell them you're being harassed by someone who is blocking your access to a public highway.

Ugh. SO obviously deliberate.

totallydriving.com/parking-on-dropped-kerb-law-uk/

They are clearly doing it on purpose to be antagonist! They sound like a bunch of entitled dicks some brass neck on them! They get worse and worse

Ugh! How awful 😖
They at obviously trying to get a reaction out of you.

Honestly I would just report it rather than asking them to move. It seems like they are deliberately trying to provoke you. I think you are going to have bigger and bigger problems with them.

They sound like entitled piss takers who are aggrieved that their very poor behaviour has been called out.

OP:
Next door neighbours daughter and family came about 10.30 ish Sunday morning and parked across our dropped curb drive......They went at about 4.30pm.

PP:
I'm not certain of this but I think it's against the law to block a car in (but not illegal to block access to a driveway).

Being in the US, this is just astonishing to me! Here it's illegal to block a driveway, car on drive or no. In fact, it's even illegal to block your own driveway by parking on the street across the dropped kerb or parking in a way that blocks the pavement. It's also astonishing to me that apparently (from MN threads) it's not illegal to park on someone else's driveway.

Here, one phone call and the police will have the offending vehicle towed to impounds at the expense of the vehicle owner. There's also a monetary fine + the impounds cost.

The fine varies. In my hometown it's $65.00, but in San Francisco it can be as much as $1500. Plus towing and impound costs.

Thanks for this link. I see that it is 'technically' illegal and you can be fined IF someone files a complaint. It also appears that there is a fine. But other than that, not much 'teeth' to it. And certainly no towing, which is the best deterrent to illegal parking

Next Sunday we will definitely be going out so if they do it again we will tell them to move the car

@Castleontheisland I would move the car off the drive, lock the gates and park it across the front of your house before they turn up. If the daughter is really confrontational then she will just put up a fight. You need to be one step ahead of them.

They sound awful.

I agree with @RampantIvy's suggestion.
I'm sorry to say I can only see this escalating 😞

Suspect the are going to up the ante- alot. What a miserable situation to be in. They are tossers.

Goodness it makes you wonder if they popped round to your house at other times when you weren't there.