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Neighbour’s XL Bully

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Dente · 26/12/2022 21:33

My neighbour has one of these dogs, which to be fair I always on a lead, but I’m so bloody scared of it when I am out walking my dog. He says it’s friendly and our dogs have sniffed each other and he while on leads, but I just feel so uneasy. I feel that if he slipped and that dog got loose it would be such a danger to everyone around. The area I live in is mainly families with young children and I just can’t understand why someone would get this kind of dog?

I understand all dogs can be aggressive, but all dogs don’t have this power and muscle that means they can easily kill!

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Unforgettablefire · 09/01/2023 22:09

mbosnz · 27/12/2022 19:37

My niece has a rescue bully. I think it would be classed as an 'XL bully' over here.
She's lovely. But, she's not a dog for the ignorant to be around. If she feels threatened, her tail goes down, she avoids eye contact, and she seeks to remove herself from the situation. Smart dog. If only people could be as smart.

I went to niece's home. Rescue bully spent about two minutes on her bed, grumbling, telling me to mind my p's and q's. After that, she was in my arms, on my chair, and in my bed. I bloody love that dog. I've seen photos of the hell she's been through, and she deserves her life. With respect to the trauma she's been through, and how that's affected her.

Lovely post. Bless your family giving her a chance.

abifish · 10/01/2023 01:10

the entirety of you who are so narrow minded about other peoples pets

ThisGirlNever · 11/01/2023 22:33

That poor boy.

All the bull breed dogs need to be banned and destroyed.

Kinnorafron · 11/01/2023 23:21

This woman was mauled to death by a dog she bought thinking it was an XL Bully -
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/partner-woman-mauled-death-dangerous-28920604

Absolutely tragic, but I can't help wondering why anyone would want one - and why anyone would buy a dog from a seller called "Gangland Bullies"

BoxerMam · 11/01/2023 23:28

ThisGirlNever · 11/01/2023 22:33

That poor boy.

All the bull breed dogs need to be banned and destroyed.

All the bull breeds? Including boxers, staffies, Boston terriers, French bulldogs? (wouldn't actually disagree with frenchies being banned for health reasons!) but all bull breeds are not the same as xl bullies and it's ridiculous to say they should all be banned

MoreSleepPleasee · 11/01/2023 23:31

My neighbours tiny little yappy dog sank its teeth in my hand and left me bleeding a few years ago so any dog could be dangerous but if that rotten little thing could do that I'd hate to think what a huge dog could do.

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Oysterbabe · 12/01/2023 21:44

Let's see what breeds these transpire to be
mol.im/a/11629471

(Daily Mail link)

ThisGirlNever · 12/01/2023 22:53

BoxerMam · 11/01/2023 23:28

All the bull breeds? Including boxers, staffies, Boston terriers, French bulldogs? (wouldn't actually disagree with frenchies being banned for health reasons!) but all bull breeds are not the same as xl bullies and it's ridiculous to say they should all be banned

Yes. All bull breeds.

Read the earlier posts on this thread regarding staffies.

DysonSpheres · 13/01/2023 09:02

Oysterbabe · 12/01/2023 21:44

Let's see what breeds these transpire to be
mol.im/a/11629471

(Daily Mail link)

Indeed lets see. Since all dogs are 'equally dangerous' it's as likely there will be a couple of dachshund's involved, maybe even a Cavalier King Charles or two.

Christmasevesofa · 13/01/2023 09:20

So let me get this straight. This dog has never shown any aggression towards you or your dog, has never done anything to make you think it has anything but a stable temperament?

It is always on a lead or otherwise contained on your neighbours property? The only thing it has done is exist, basically?

You are scared of it because it is large and muscular and living near you? Jesus Christ, I hope you don't live in the countryside. Cows, horses, you'd be a nervous wreck.

👏👏👏

BoxerMam · 13/01/2023 10:55

ThisGirlNever · 12/01/2023 22:53

Yes. All bull breeds.

Read the earlier posts on this thread regarding staffies.

I have read the full thread and I still think you sound ridiculous. It is tragic when any dog attack is fatal or leaves life changing injuries.
But you can't say that all boston terriers should be destroyed because some xl bullies and staffies have attacked. They're not even in the same league.

ThistleSifter · 14/01/2023 23:51

DysonSpheres · 13/01/2023 09:02

Indeed lets see. Since all dogs are 'equally dangerous' it's as likely there will be a couple of dachshund's involved, maybe even a Cavalier King Charles or two.

It seems like there was indeed a couple of dachshunds involved.

Moobae · 15/01/2023 01:26

thefirstmrsrochester · 26/12/2022 21:43

YANBU.

If you look at deaths caused by dogs, it’s pretty much always the XL Bully.

I don’t doubt that with anyone experienced dog owner they are not a threat but the breed seems to be such a trend these days and they are going to folk who don’t have the experience to manage a strong dog with the ability to switch to aggression very quickly.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11636065/Pictured-11st-Leonburger-named-Shiva-centre-horror-saw-walker-28-mauled-death.html

Moobae · 15/01/2023 01:27

ThisGirlNever · 12/01/2023 22:53

Yes. All bull breeds.

Read the earlier posts on this thread regarding staffies.

You can look at the above article to.

GSD20 · 15/01/2023 06:27

Yes. The article states she was being attacked by 4 medium sized dogs yet it must have been the giant…

Also out of 8 dogs, 2 breeds have been named so it must have been those 🙄other than loose reports of a cockerpoo and a collie)

So what about the other 6? No mention of what they were or what involvement they have. Not to mention most of the dogs ran away (not that they have said which ones)…Classic shit media reporting at its best.

Oysterbabe · 15/01/2023 08:02

That Daily Mail story is awful. It basically says
We have no idea what happened but probably something like this.

DysonSpheres · 15/01/2023 08:32

ThistleSifter · 14/01/2023 23:51

It seems like there was indeed a couple of dachshunds involved.

You know I couldn't believe that when I read it. Unbelievably unexpected.

That said it seems they all got into a frenzy for some unknown reason. I'm sure they caused harm but it has to be the larger dogs in the group that caused the most harm.

Poor woman, and she warned others to stay away, I found that incredibly brave and conscientious.

The way the DM story is written is just off. A salacious tone running through it.

Whatafustercluck · 15/01/2023 08:51

Staffies are recommended by the Kennel Club as family dogs that are particularly good with children. Buy from reputable breeders, train and socialise them well, as I'd hope all good dog owners would and there are no problems. Ds and dd grew up around a staffie (my sister's) their whole lives, never an incident (unless you count being licked to within an inch of your life). It was a small, unmuzzled yappy breed that nearly blinded dd when she was 3. Guess which dogs scare her the most now?

Whatafustercluck · 15/01/2023 08:53

XL Bullies - don't know much about them. But seems there's an element of aggression (against other dogs at least) still inherent in this breed's temperament?

ThisGirlNever · 23/01/2023 07:16

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64346415

^"Organised crime is moving into the lucrative market of extreme dog breeding, a BBC investigation has found.

Bulldogs, including the new American Bully breed, are being bred with hugely exaggerated characteristics - such as excessive skin folds or large, muscular frames.

The RSPCA warns criminals are breeding and selling these dogs to launder money and make huge sums, often at the expense of animal welfare."^

The easiest way to break these criminal gangs is to completely ban all these fighting breeds.

bottleofbeer · 28/01/2023 01:43

No, not all bull breeds should be banned.

The problem is they look the part so idiots get then as status dogs and train them to be aggressive.

I've already said I've got a standard ambull. The absolute power in his neck when he was younger was unbelievable. He was attacked by a rottie cross which was HUGE in a park. It took two grown men and me hitting it with a large steel link dog lead with all of my strength and weight behind it to get my dog's head out of its mouth.

Yes, damn right I wanted to hurt it enough to save my dog's life.

But I can and always could overpower mine if I needed to. This dog took huge efforts to overpower and get its jaws open to get my dog away. It belonged to an older woman who blamed us for letting him into a specifically designated dog area which is fenced off so they can run off lead. She knew hers couldn't be around other dogs as it is and was KNOWN to be dog aggressive.

Seeing your husband who isn't a small bloke, and a heroic bypasser desperately trying to get this dog off, being utterly convinced my dog was going to be killed, two of my kids witnessing this while we had no way out of the fenced area as the dog was attacking right in front of the gate was horrific.

She should not have had that dog as she had zero control of it. I do have control of mine and yes, I can overpower him if I had to.

ThisGirlNever · 28/01/2023 07:08

bottleofbeer · 28/01/2023 01:43

No, not all bull breeds should be banned.

The problem is they look the part so idiots get then as status dogs and train them to be aggressive.

I've already said I've got a standard ambull. The absolute power in his neck when he was younger was unbelievable. He was attacked by a rottie cross which was HUGE in a park. It took two grown men and me hitting it with a large steel link dog lead with all of my strength and weight behind it to get my dog's head out of its mouth.

Yes, damn right I wanted to hurt it enough to save my dog's life.

But I can and always could overpower mine if I needed to. This dog took huge efforts to overpower and get its jaws open to get my dog away. It belonged to an older woman who blamed us for letting him into a specifically designated dog area which is fenced off so they can run off lead. She knew hers couldn't be around other dogs as it is and was KNOWN to be dog aggressive.

Seeing your husband who isn't a small bloke, and a heroic bypasser desperately trying to get this dog off, being utterly convinced my dog was going to be killed, two of my kids witnessing this while we had no way out of the fenced area as the dog was attacking right in front of the gate was horrific.

She should not have had that dog as she had zero control of it. I do have control of mine and yes, I can overpower him if I had to.

Why did you take your children into an area where dogs, with unknown levels of aggression, were off lead?

All that story tells me it's that all dogs should be muzzled in public and the list of banned dogs needs to include rottweilers as well as bull breeds.