Neighbour’s XL Bully

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My neighbour has one of these dogs, which to be fair I always on a lead, but I’m so bloody scared of it when I am out walking my dog. He says it’s friendly and our dogs have sniffed each other and he while on leads, but I just feel so uneasy. I feel that if he slipped and that dog got loose it would be such a danger to everyone around. The area I live in is mainly families with young children and I just can’t understand why someone would get this kind of dog?

I understand all dogs can be aggressive, but all dogs don’t have this power and muscle that means they can easily kill!

As an experienced dog owner of many different breeds, I wouldn't have an XL Bully. These dogs shouldn't be in the hands of inexperienced dog owners who don't train them properly. That actually goes for any dog, but particularly ones the size of bullies.

I've done tons of rescue work and am an owner of three dogs I agree this breed and most bull breeds should be eliminated. There's no programme for recording or breeding stable variations of this breed. In GSD world competition dogs are only bred from health and stability tested dogs. If you had one that was shy, nasty, not good with strangers etc it would not be bred from. End of. Eventually those dogs get eliminated.

www.itv.com/news/granada/2022-12-28/cruel-owner-stamped-on-bull-dog-pup-after-she-chewed-the-remote-control

Humans are cunts to bull breeds too. This dog was abused and didn’t react to its owner or the vets treating it. How many abuse cases have there been from humans to animals. Did anyone read about Michael Vicks dogs that were trained to kill and were routinely abused? All were rescued, one was euthanised due to aggression and the rest sent to rehab and successfully rehomed, one was even used as a therapy dog.

@CarrotCake84 put the whataboutism down, love

I shall do as I please, love. You can’t silence people because you don’t agree with them.

Or maybe you’re too narrow-minded like the other posters.

abkcdogs.net/breed/

There is a register and breed club for these dogs. They're an American import and interestingly, despite being more popular in the US, there are no reports of these dogs killing people in the US.

American's bred them specifically to breed out aggression within the bull breeds. I don't necessarily agree with their creation. There was no need to create a stable, placid bull breed. We already have staffies for that, and when responsibly bred and owned, pitbulls.

Responsible breeding should better a breed or fill a need. Bully XL's do neither. That's not to say that the ones which are properly bred are dangerous. I don't believe they are.

They're inherently dangerous due to their size and muscle mass. They're dangerous in the same way a tiger is dangerous.

You might think your one is different, but one day...

www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/jan/17/vegas-siegfried-roy-tiger-wild-things-mystery-exotic-animal-sin-city-counter-terrorism

You cannot compare an animal that has had centuries of domestication, to the point that it is now an entirely different species to its wild counterpart, to a fucking tiger.

A tiger is a wild animal. No matter how was raised, bred, or trained. It takes numerous generations and careful selective breeding to domesticate an animal.

@Frequency

If it's so big, that an adult male can't easily overpower it, then it's inherently dangerous.

Domestic cats don't pose much of a threat due to their size. If some moron bread a strain of cats to be the same size as a Bully XL, they'd be inherently dangerous.

I note that you didn't respond to my earlier reply regarding the two highly experienced dog handlers killed by Bully XLs.

You seem to be completely deluded with regards to the threat posed by these animals.

When looking at deaths from dog attacks it seem the US lumps all deaths from bully dogs under 'mixed pit' breed.

Dog Bite Statistics: By Breed, Fatal Dog Bites, and States With The Highest Fatalities

From 2010 to June 2021, there were 430 fatal dog bites, with 185 of those coming from pit bulls, and another 41 that were pit bull mixes.

60% had pit bull in their bloodlines (either full-blooded or a mix)
7% had Rottweiler in their bloodline
4% had German shepherd in their bloodline
Top Three Breeds Responsible for Fatal Dog Attacks
Pitbull – 185 deaths
Pitbull Mix – 41 deaths
Rotweiller – 26 deaths

Pit bulls are a group of dogs that include a mixture of any of the following breeds: American pit bull terrier, American Bully, American Staffordshire terrier, Staffordshire bull terrier and the America Bulldog. These breeds of dogs are inherently aggressive when provoked and so they were cross bred to develop the best fighting dogs

These dogs can weigh anywhere from 35 pounds to 100 pounds depending on the breeds that are mixed. Considered the most aggressive dog in America by most, pit bulls and pit bull mixes account for nearly 60% of all dog attack fatalities despite making up only 6% of the dog population

Wiki:

2018 literature review with meta-analysis by breed, focusing on dog bite injuries to the face, head and neck, concluded that "of the cases in which the breed was known, the Pit bull was responsible for the highest percentage of reported bites across all the studies followed by mixed breed and then German Shepherds," and that "injuries from Pit bulls and mixed breed dogs were both more frequent and more severe."[3][4]

I've got a ten year old Ambull. I know I sound like a cliché. He's soft as shit. I also know that he's got the ability to kill.

In ten years he's never, ever shown any aggression. He's a lovely natured dog. I'm not naive enough to think every Ambull is the same. I know they're not. When he was younger his strength was unbelievable. The first thing we taught him wasn't to 'sit' it was how to be gentle. We'd offer treats that he couldn't have until he took them gently.

After that all I ever had to do was give the command to be gentle and he was. Of course it was possible that one day he might not obey the command.

But I can and always could overpower him if I had to. XL bullies concern me. My dog isn't as big as he was but I've seen XL puppies that make my standard look like a chihuahua.

Mine has never been off lead unless we're alone in a bloody big field and he's known nothing but care and love. I trust him as much as any dog can be trusted. I really don't think he'd even be much protection in the event I needed it.

But to take a dog as powerful as mine and make it bigger and stronger is madness. Why not just have a pet tiger or something?

I own an XL bully & he's the most caring gentle giant of a dog I've ever come across he like a baby himself he just wants to sit on everyone's lap and gets on fine with the cat they both clean one another's heard never heard him growl or bark to that matter and we've had him since being 9 weeks old!! It's the owners who get hold of the breed and make them aggressive!

@haventgotaclue4

I presume haventgotaclues 1 to 3 were eaten by their Bully XLs.

Two highly experienced dog handlers have been killed by Bully XLs.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-59781502

www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/crime/fareham-dog-walker-and-trainer-ian-wiggy-symes-thought-to-be-killed-by-xl-american-bully-breed-dog-3804344

If it's all about the owners, what did they do wrong?

@ThisGirlNever well first article is a 20
Year old male got arrested so I can tell he was just using the dog as a designer breed! Also the second article was an abused XL bully.... now obviously if
Any dog was to be abused and you didn't know about there back ground then you have to take extra precautions with the precautions you already have in place, i have a scare on my face through a springer one of my friends dogs that jumped up and cling onto my face I had to have stitches at the side of my eye and stitches above my lip! Any dog can be dangerous!

Oh but they're sooooo soft and lovely and fluffy and are BRILLIANT with small children, and just sit good as gold on the owner's lap with not so much of a grizzle or growl. Soft as PUTTY they are. Big soft cute little angels, Wouldn't hurt a FLY!!!!! Caring gentle babies who don't ever even growl... And the owners do get SO tickled when people pick their little dogs up out of fear. Ha ha ha LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!!

Honestly, with some of the posts I am reading on here, it makes me deeply concerned and worried that these people have these dogs around school age children. God help us all.

This stupid argument again. 'ANY DOG CAN BE DANGEROUS.' FFS, a springer spaniel snapped at you and you had to have stitches above your lip and at the side of your eye. If it had have been an XLBULLY, you would not have had a face left, OR any lips, OR any eyes! Can you apologists for these fucking dogs REALLY not see the difference? I despair for humanity, I really do!

Yes. All of them.

Any dog can be dangerous, absolutely.

But the fact remains that the average adult is incredibly unlikely to be able to physically fight off an XL Bully if it attacks them, whereas while a spaniel could seriously injure someone (and I'm sorry it did as that sounds horrible) the reality is that had an XL Bully carried out the same attack (a face / neck area lunge and bite) you'd have been seriously maimed or killed.

All animals can be responsive and lash out. Even the sweetest most calm dogs can do so due to things outside of everyone's control like pain or illness. That's why I think having any breed of dog you are unlikely to be able to physically overpower if necessary is irresponsible and foolish.

If there are kids in the home and people choose large, strong breeds they couldn't overpower if necessary I think it's incredibly selfish. Not saying that's you as I don't know if you have kids, but that's how I feel.

“I presume haventgotaclues 1 to 3 were eaten by their Bully XLs.”

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@haventgotaclue4 did the devil Springer attack also render you unable to use periods, paragraphs and proper spelling?

Try not to scream the dog might get triggered and eat you

Who exactly are you calling a moron?