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Neighbour’s XL Bully

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Dente · 26/12/2022 21:33

My neighbour has one of these dogs, which to be fair I always on a lead, but I’m so bloody scared of it when I am out walking my dog. He says it’s friendly and our dogs have sniffed each other and he while on leads, but I just feel so uneasy. I feel that if he slipped and that dog got loose it would be such a danger to everyone around. The area I live in is mainly families with young children and I just can’t understand why someone would get this kind of dog?

I understand all dogs can be aggressive, but all dogs don’t have this power and muscle that means they can easily kill!

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DarkKarmaIlama · 27/12/2022 20:27

Awful breed. My brothers was removed due to aggressive behaviour he was well out of his depth with that dog and was relieved when it finally went.

oakleaffy · 27/12/2022 20:35

DarkKarmaIlama · 27/12/2022 20:27

Awful breed. My brothers was removed due to aggressive behaviour he was well out of his depth with that dog and was relieved when it finally went.

I hope it was euthanised and not given away.

The man in the thread who was killed by one he 'Rescued' up in Scotland was on the face of it an experienced dog owner, but was killed by one.

He leaves five boys behind.
It was a miracle it wasn't one of the children killed.

Orphaned by a dog.

DarkKarmaIlama · 27/12/2022 20:42

@oakleaffy

Nope it was given away to some lady who rescued that breed of dogs. I agree though it should have been killed.

CarrotCake84 · 27/12/2022 20:51

DysonSpheres · 27/12/2022 20:05

No. Because most domesticated dog and cat breeds wouldn't be capable of surviving in the wild without humans. And even if they all could, they wouldn't live as long without human intervention. Most have been overly bred to be genetically unfit. After an initial surge, levels would balance out. Nature would dispense of the genetically unsuitable ones.

But assuming you mean in the short term, it is demand that fuels the massive amount of domestic pets and the huge industry around them, which impacts the environment far more: The plastic food packaging, the fuel used to transport pet food, the resources (some of which are finite abd irreplaceable) used for littering and bedding. The medicines used to treat them, The cost of cleaning up domestic animal waste.

We stop buying pets their demand would eventually dwindle, the industry would shrink and I doubt they'd be released wholesale onto the wild. I am all for pet ownership 100%, regardless, but I can still understand the argument for reducing pet ownership even if I don't agree with it.

Understood? Now go be rude to someone else.

How is it rude? You clearly don’t understand biology, I still have to point it out.
Here’s one for you…In some countries stray cats are rife, many cats rely on hunting to survive which means some species of birds are becoming near extinct, the cats are feral with no one to sterilise them to control numbers. So you think cats and dogs should be left to roam and breed and it won’t be an ecological disaster? Oh and I didn’t buy my cat, she was a rescue from a farm cat who has many litters of kittens.
Unless you’re vegan, don’t use plastic, don’t drive, poo in your own garden etc. Then you really can’t dictate what another species does or doesn’t do. Humans are the worst contributors of environmental disaster.

Mamai90 · 27/12/2022 20:51

I'd be anxious too, and I love dogs. I'm a dog owner myself.

My SIL ex husband has 2 of these dogs, he also has four young children, two of them are babies. Not only that he's had links to dog fighting in the past so these are the type of scumbags who keep these status dogs, and it's the owners who concern me as much as the dogs.

And for the eejit that mentioned cows and horses, what a load of waffle. Ridiculous comparison 🙄

CarrotCake84 · 27/12/2022 20:56

@DysonSpheres Oh and cats provide companionship to many people, some people choose not to have children and have pets instead, their pets are adding no more to the environment than what children would, in-fact considerably less.

Kiwimommyinlondon · 27/12/2022 22:04

I saw a woman in my local park a couple months ago with a toddler and a very young baby in a double buggy and a vicious looking pup on a lead. She confirmed it was a bully XL - I fear for those small children. It’s a very special kind of stupid.

DysonSpheres · 27/12/2022 22:23

CarrotCake84 · 27/12/2022 20:51

How is it rude? You clearly don’t understand biology, I still have to point it out.
Here’s one for you…In some countries stray cats are rife, many cats rely on hunting to survive which means some species of birds are becoming near extinct, the cats are feral with no one to sterilise them to control numbers. So you think cats and dogs should be left to roam and breed and it won’t be an ecological disaster? Oh and I didn’t buy my cat, she was a rescue from a farm cat who has many litters of kittens.
Unless you’re vegan, don’t use plastic, don’t drive, poo in your own garden etc. Then you really can’t dictate what another species does or doesn’t do. Humans are the worst contributors of environmental disaster.

You were rude and continue being so, oddly to someone who essentially agrees with you and are now strangely defensive. I said twice now, that I agree with pet ownership. I disagree though, that not having pets would be a bigger ecological disaster than having them. You've said nothing to convince me otherwise.

Now calm down for goodness sake.

Had you politely replied to my respectful enquiry earlier, instead of getting on your high horse, and making sarcastic eye rolly emojis, the exchange would have ended ages ago.

No longer engaging with you. Keep your cat. I don't care where you got it from. No one is saying you shouldn't have one! Or a child for that matter.

Puppamumma · 27/12/2022 22:33

A Cocker spaniel is listed as more likely to bite than a German shepherd our girl would honestly have needed a instruction leaflet to bite yet our Labrador has to get told to settle down when she gets to mouthy and full on as she just gets so excited

CarrotCake84 · 27/12/2022 22:43

DysonSpheres · 27/12/2022 22:23

You were rude and continue being so, oddly to someone who essentially agrees with you and are now strangely defensive. I said twice now, that I agree with pet ownership. I disagree though, that not having pets would be a bigger ecological disaster than having them. You've said nothing to convince me otherwise.

Now calm down for goodness sake.

Had you politely replied to my respectful enquiry earlier, instead of getting on your high horse, and making sarcastic eye rolly emojis, the exchange would have ended ages ago.

No longer engaging with you. Keep your cat. I don't care where you got it from. No one is saying you shouldn't have one! Or a child for that matter.

I have given you my opinion, you struggled to understand my post, so I broke it down for you to read clearly. I’m not asking you to engage and I’m not saying I shouldn’t keep my cat, I was explaining I’m not fuelling or encouraging breeding by rehoming a rescue cat which is what one of your posts highlighted. I mentioned the children comment because you mentioned the impact pets have on the planet. It’s all good and well to point out the negative
impact pets may have but let’s not be blissfully ignorant to the scale of impact we make, that was my whole point.

Redolent · 27/12/2022 23:08

Most people wanting a ‘tough’ dog used to go for Staffies but XL Bullies have gradually been imported and are now the go-to choice. XL bullies are everything wrong with Staffies but x10. Why go for an ugly, aggressive staffie when you could go for an even uglier, even more aggressive XL bully?

People are also feeding their bullies special food (packed with crazy amounts of protein and steroids) in order to get them to gain unnatural muscle mass.

ThisGirlNever · 27/12/2022 23:12

People are also feeding their bullies special food (packed with crazy amounts of protein and steroids) in order to get them to gain unnatural muscle mass.

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I have no trouble believing that, but I'm still incredulous at the stupidity.

Lucidas · 27/12/2022 23:16

ThisGirlNever · 27/12/2022 23:12

People are also feeding their bullies special food (packed with crazy amounts of protein and steroids) in order to get them to gain unnatural muscle mass.

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I have no trouble believing that, but I'm still incredulous at the stupidity.

Photos from an XL Bully Facebook group. The mind boggles.

Neighbour’s XL Bully
Neighbour’s XL Bully
Soothsayer1 · 27/12/2022 23:50

Lucidas · 27/12/2022 23:16

Photos from an XL Bully Facebook group. The mind boggles.

good of them to upload all their info....make it easy to track them down

Soothsayer1 · 27/12/2022 23:53

ThisGirlNever · 27/12/2022 23:12

People are also feeding their bullies special food (packed with crazy amounts of protein and steroids) in order to get them to gain unnatural muscle mass.

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I have no trouble believing that, but I'm still incredulous at the stupidity.

I find that persons with an affinity for such pets tend to have a certain lack of subtlety when it comes to intellect, no doubt this is why they have said affinity, they connect with the animal at its intellectual level

Soothsayer1 · 27/12/2022 23:58

CarrotCake84 · 27/12/2022 20:56

@DysonSpheres Oh and cats provide companionship to many people, some people choose not to have children and have pets instead, their pets are adding no more to the environment than what children would, in-fact considerably less.

and of course when you've invested all your time money and effort into your pets they will grow up, go out into the world train to be drs & nurses, be responsible citizens etc.
Whereas children just leave feces all over the pavement and sometimes attack and kill people

user1471447863 · 28/12/2022 01:37

These are the status symbol dog of choice for drug dealers, gangsters and wanna be hard men - and like the dogs many of the owners should be rounded up and PTS or at least neutered.
Problem is if they are banned they will just find some other aggressive and unsuitable breed to replace them.

All those that are claiming a westie or whatever is more likely to attack you, the difference is most adults could stamp on a westie if need be or otherwise overpower it - and most other dogs too, but you'd have no chance with one of these breeds especially as it is their nature not to back off. As @bottleofbeer said earlier, you want a breed you could overpower if it ever came to it.

CarrotCake84 · 28/12/2022 08:24

Soothsayer1 · 27/12/2022 23:58

and of course when you've invested all your time money and effort into your pets they will grow up, go out into the world train to be drs & nurses, be responsible citizens etc.
Whereas children just leave feces all over the pavement and sometimes attack and kill people

So kids don’t and won’t grow up and contribute to the climate crisis?
Whereas humans pollute rivers and oceans with their shit and are the main cause of climate change and let’s not forget many grow up up kill too. Hmmm…

HaveYouSeenNancy · 28/12/2022 09:32

CC84 - Why do you keep posting about cats, children and the environment? This thread is about XL Bully ownership and whether it would be appropriate to fear one living next door.

I'm scared of them, and so far this thread hasn't convinced me that I'm wrong. The links and statistics posted by PoshUn speak for themself.

LaLuz7 · 28/12/2022 09:34

@CarrotCake84 you're not a dog with a bone. Will you give it a rest?

Your whole argumebt

LaLuz7 · 28/12/2022 09:37

Oops. Continued:

Your whole argument is that humans can be assholes too, yet we don't ban them, therefore it is unfair and "speciest" (🙄🙄🙄) to ban a dog breed which isn't even natural, but man made.

Can you really not hear how childish this whole argument sounds?

CarrotCake84 · 28/12/2022 10:39

LaLuz7 · 28/12/2022 09:34

@CarrotCake84 you're not a dog with a bone. Will you give it a rest?

Your whole argumebt

Then don’t respond to my posts, really not bloody hard is it!! And it’s not childish, I’m pointing out the fact that we kill, maim and pollute on a much larger scale and you can’t just eradicate a breed of species for this reason, when we also do the same and much worse. Can you really not understand this?

CarrotCake84 · 28/12/2022 10:45

LaLuz7 · 28/12/2022 09:37

Oops. Continued:

Your whole argument is that humans can be assholes too, yet we don't ban them, therefore it is unfair and "speciest" (🙄🙄🙄) to ban a dog breed which isn't even natural, but man made.

Can you really not hear how childish this whole argument sounds?

My argument wasn’t even about humans being arseholes 🙄 It was in response to posters saying a particular breed of dogs should be eradicated. Shall we also eradicate all the other animals who kill and maim whilst we’re here? Do you realise how stupid it sounds. That’s what my point was, you are clearly too intent on nit-picking my post than focusing on the whole point, or too stupid to understand!

LaLuz7 · 28/12/2022 10:54

I’m pointing out the fact that we kill, maim and pollute on a much larger scale and you can’t just eradicate a breed of species for this reason, when we also do the same and much worse

@CarrotCake84 of course we can eradicate a breed. Your opinion has no bearing on this. The world doesn't need your blessing. We eradicate entire populations of pests just for being a nuisance. Why should this be any different?

Animals are not humans and are not subject to the same rights as humans.

BTW thanks for calling me stupid, that's very original 😘

CarrotCake84 · 28/12/2022 11:34

LaLuz7 · 28/12/2022 10:54

I’m pointing out the fact that we kill, maim and pollute on a much larger scale and you can’t just eradicate a breed of species for this reason, when we also do the same and much worse

@CarrotCake84 of course we can eradicate a breed. Your opinion has no bearing on this. The world doesn't need your blessing. We eradicate entire populations of pests just for being a nuisance. Why should this be any different?

Animals are not humans and are not subject to the same rights as humans.

BTW thanks for calling me stupid, that's very original 😘

Ah you’ve just shown yourself as a self-righteous, entitled human, knew it..
No one said the world needs my blessing, I am stating my opinion that it’s unethical killing a breed of species that sometimes maim and kill, again does that apply to all animals that maim and kill?
Preventative methods can and should be put in place but they don’t need to be eradicated.
Why should animals be treated different to humans and why shouldn’t they have the same rights? The world and animals would thrive without humans, the humans would not, we rely on the worlds resources and animals as a whole, so really we are really insignificant.
You’re welcome, no need to thank me, just pointing out the obvious.