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To let 12 yo ds take 6yo dd to the local shops

138 replies

Whatafustercluck · 23/12/2022 07:57

Last night 12yo ds asked if he could take his 6yo sister to the shops today - company for him because he wants to buy me and dh a little present for Christmas. He's a mature amd sensible boy. He's allowed out on his own, we've left him home alone for a couple of hours (max) occasionally and he regularly catches the bus home from school (a 20 min journey). The shops are a Tesco Extra precinct, about a 5 minute walk away. They have to cross one road on the way, which isn't massively busy, and there us a crossing they will use. He has a phone to contact us on. 6yo is also pretty mature and aware of dangers, not a risk taker. They can argue and get a bit silly together as siblings do, but generally when I've had to leave ds in charge for 5 mins while I'm on a work call for example he helps her out if she needs it, baths her to help out sometimes and is fiercely protective of her. I have no doubts about his maturity and ability. But I worry that if, for example, anything bad were to happen, he would blame himself. This is something he really wants to do, and is very sweet (he's confident, but having her there gives him more confidence, same for her) but genuinely don't know if iabu for considering it.

OP posts:
YouSoundLovely · 23/12/2022 09:25

OFFS. I meant

'I do think there is a big difference between a 12yo + 4yo (which would have been the case with my middle and youngest and I don't think I'd have been comfortable with) and a 12yo + 6yo.'

DialsMavis · 23/12/2022 09:26

I would allow this and think it is lovely that DS wants to take DD out

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/12/2022 09:26

I wouldn’t. A 12 year old should never be responsible for a much younger child.

Quincythequince · 23/12/2022 09:27

Jesus Christ OP. He’s 12 and it’s a five minute walk away!

Why on earth do you need an opinion poll for this!

Triffid1 · 23/12/2022 09:28

Quincythequince · 23/12/2022 09:27

Jesus Christ OP. He’s 12 and it’s a five minute walk away!

Why on earth do you need an opinion poll for this!

The fact that she is getting such differing opinions feels like a clear.sign this isn't as clear cut as you think it is.

zen1 · 23/12/2022 09:29

I would (and I have the same age gap between two of mine).

Quincythequince · 23/12/2022 09:29

Utterly shocked to see someone say only a 14 can take a child to the shops!

What has happened to the world. It’s a five minute walk away and there’s a crossing.

Quincythequince · 23/12/2022 09:30

Triffid1 · 23/12/2022 09:28

The fact that she is getting such differing opinions feels like a clear.sign this isn't as clear cut as you think it is.

Yes, apparently.

I am genuinely surprised that given her description of her children, anyone would say not to do this.

JazbayGrapes · 23/12/2022 09:30

yes, why not. 12yo would be old enough to babysit, and 6yo isn't a toddler.

BooksAndHooks · 23/12/2022 09:31

Mine has taken his younger cousin to the sweet shop but that is at the end of the road. I think for a bigger shop like Tesco Extra I would go with them and let them go off in the shop and walk them back afterwards. Give them bags in advance so they can hide what they buy.

sheepdogdelight · 23/12/2022 09:32

I'd say not.

Whilst it sounds like the 12 year old is mature for their age they are still only 12 and OP doesn't mention them having any sole experience looking after their sibling (5 minutes when parent is on the house on the phone not remotely the same).
Plus the shops will be busy, lots of people will have their heads down and not paying attention.
And even the best behaved 6 year olds has silly moments.

In year or two maybe :)

Mumoffairy · 23/12/2022 09:32

I would let them, bit where we live kids walk to school alone from age 5-6. Some kids have a 20min journey crossing several roads.
Mine are 6 and 8 and they often go to the shops alone or to the playground nearby. But we live in a very quiet little village.

Greensleevevssnotnose · 23/12/2022 09:33

As it's a small local shop I would say yes. I was imagining a mall lakeside or similar and then I would say absolutely not.

Seeline · 23/12/2022 09:36

No I wouldn't. Some of those Tesco extras are huge. I was in a large supermarket yesterday and it was manic. A 6 yo could easily get separated and I think a 12 yo is likely bto panic in that situation. It is not fair to put that responsibility on them.
Strangely, I would be more happy with the walk there.

thelobsterquadrille · 23/12/2022 09:37

I'm genuinely really surprised at all the people saying "no way" to this.

It was a very common sight when I was a pre-teen (only in the early noughties so not that long ago) - has the world really changed that much since then?

Quincythequince · 23/12/2022 09:37

thelobsterquadrille · 23/12/2022 09:37

I'm genuinely really surprised at all the people saying "no way" to this.

It was a very common sight when I was a pre-teen (only in the early noughties so not that long ago) - has the world really changed that much since then?

Agree completely.
What do people think will happen ina. Big bad Tesco Express?

TiredButDancing · 23/12/2022 09:37

sheepdogdelight · 23/12/2022 09:32

I'd say not.

Whilst it sounds like the 12 year old is mature for their age they are still only 12 and OP doesn't mention them having any sole experience looking after their sibling (5 minutes when parent is on the house on the phone not remotely the same).
Plus the shops will be busy, lots of people will have their heads down and not paying attention.
And even the best behaved 6 year olds has silly moments.

In year or two maybe :)

A friends 11 year old is capable of managing her sisters diabetes in an emergency.

Who are all these completely incompetent 12 year olds?

Op, you know your children. If they are both sensible and you trust them, go for it. They eill.love it. Also, I think its likely the 12 year old will be extra responsible and protective and the 6 year old on best behaviour because she is so excited about the whole experience.

Dd strutted for about a week when her 10 year old cousin walked her up the road to her activity once!!

Zanatdy · 23/12/2022 09:37

No I wouldn’t but agree re waiting outside

Seeline · 23/12/2022 09:42

Quincythequince · 23/12/2022 09:37

Agree completely.
What do people think will happen ina. Big bad Tesco Express?

OP stated Tesco Extra - those are the really big, 24 hour supermarkets. Some are nearly as big as shopping centres!

JazbayGrapes · 23/12/2022 09:54

OP stated Tesco Extra - those are the really big, 24 hour supermarkets. Some are nearly as big as shopping centres!

And? I would assume both kids would have visited that place numerous times and know how to behave. 6yo isn't a toddler who is likely to randomly bolt.

StephanieSuperpowers · 23/12/2022 09:56

And surely a six year old will go to customer services and ask for help should disaster strike.

sheepdogdelight · 23/12/2022 10:00

JazbayGrapes · 23/12/2022 09:54

OP stated Tesco Extra - those are the really big, 24 hour supermarkets. Some are nearly as big as shopping centres!

And? I would assume both kids would have visited that place numerous times and know how to behave. 6yo isn't a toddler who is likely to randomly bolt.

On the 23rd December the place will be heaving and Tesco will have put extra cages and produce in aisles so hard to see down them. It will be full of people not paying attention to what they are doing with their trolleys, will be loud, and the possibility of getting lost/separated will be much greater than normal.

It's not the same as going on a quiet day in the middle of June.

As an adult I would avoid taking a 6 year old if there was an alternative.

ClydeFrog · 23/12/2022 10:01

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Quincythequince · 23/12/2022 10:05

Seeline · 23/12/2022 09:42

OP stated Tesco Extra - those are the really big, 24 hour supermarkets. Some are nearly as big as shopping centres!

Yes, I have been in one a few hundred times.
But what of it? I’m

Either you trust them to stay together, which is more important when navigating roads and cars, or you don’t.

The size of the shop is neither here nor there. It’s a Tesco. Which also means more staff to help if need be.

At What ages can older sibs safely take out younger ones in the eyes of posters on here?

Genuinely curious.

Seeline · 23/12/2022 10:10

At this time of year, it's not about trusting them to stay together. It's about the shops being rammed with people stressed about Christmas, extra piles of stock everywhere, stressed staff, and kids getting easily separated and not being able to find each other.

I really don't think a scared 6yo is going to think about popping to the customer service desk - that's if they could even find it!

Any other time of year, I would probably be ok with the plan. 3 days before Christmas - no.