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Pushchair fight on bus

720 replies

Partygal · 19/12/2022 22:25

After picking my child up from her child minder today, I arrived the bus stop to find two women with buggies waiting.

Knowing that the driver wouldn’t let three of us on, I walked round the corner to the previous stop and got on there.

When it arrived at the next stop, sure enough only mum was allowed on - the other was told to wait 30 minutes for the next bus. I was screamed at and called a cunt and a queue jumper by one mum who tried to shove me off the bus.

I don’t think I did anything wrong, nor did the police when they turned up after being called by the driver.

What the fuck is wrong with people?

OP posts:
Cuppasoupmonster · 20/12/2022 10:43

I mean you could but I would prefer my car windows to stay intact 😂

ittakes2 · 20/12/2022 10:44

How would you have felt if someone did that to you? You were waiting for a bus with your child and someone delayed you getting on. You should have folded your pram so all three of you could get on. You sound very mean.

Catspyjamas17 · 20/12/2022 10:44

Reugny · 20/12/2022 10:40

I've been on more than one bus in my part of London where bus drivers have allowed a mum to fold down a buggy before driving off so more buggies can fit on.

They have also allowed more buggies than they should on the bus due to it being in the middle of the day and raining.

This morning one stopped for me to let my daughter on when were weren't at a bus stop. On other occasions they have waited for people particularly young children running for the bus at a bus stop.

I've overheard from bus drivers more than once that they behave differently to the public depending on the area of London they are driving in.

That's good to read!

EndlessRain1 · 20/12/2022 10:46

Partygal · 20/12/2022 10:43

Got my car back from the garage. I’ll give them a toot and a wave if they are at the bus stop when I drive past later!

🙄

Eatentoomanyroses · 20/12/2022 10:49

I don’t see this as being any different to when you’re at a checkout, they open a new till and the person at the back of the queue gets served first at the new checkout. She’s simply joined a new queue. It’s fine. Not totally sure about the folding thing. It’s not always possible and frankly a lot of bus drivers done even give you time to sit down let alone collapse a pram and secure a child.

Notanotherone6 · 20/12/2022 10:50

Partygal · 20/12/2022 10:43

Got my car back from the garage. I’ll give them a toot and a wave if they are at the bus stop when I drive past later!

Well aren't you charming?

That's, of course, if this actually happened. I don't believe a word of it.

YouBelongHere · 20/12/2022 10:51

Assuming this is a genuine post (which I doubt) the difference between OP's example and pretty much every PP's example is that in the PP's they're saying 'I know my regular route well enough to know it gets busy so now I walk straight to an earlier stop so I can ensure I get on and get a seat' whereas in OP's it's 'I went to my usual stop, saw two women with prams waiting and instead of thinking about how I'd have to fold mine or wait for the next bus I decided I deserved the spot more and walked to the previous stop'. Had OP gone straight to that stop she wouldn't have been unreasonable but she went knowing these women would want to get on and didn't even try and make sure there was room for all of them.

I also don't get the whole 'those women could've done it too' - why would they? OP only went because they were waiting at that stop and as others have said, when does it stop? Do they all keep walking miles in the opposite direction of where they actually want to go just so they can get on first?

No it's not illegal but there are plenty of shitty things a person can do that aren't illegal and this was one of them. All of us could 'work smarter not harder' in lots of scenarios but it wouldn't make the world a very nice place to live.

Should she have yelled at you, called you names and pushed you? No, that was also unreasonable but I can see why she wasn't thrilled.

Unforgettablefire · 20/12/2022 10:53

Partygal · 19/12/2022 22:36

The one mum who got on the bus shoved me. NO WAY was I folding after that.

As you were sneaky you should have folded the buggy when you got on the bus knowing there was other people there waiting for longer than you.
Not folding out of spite is just nasty not just to the lady but the child.

JudgeJ · 20/12/2022 10:54

Flippettyflip · 19/12/2022 22:33

You queue jumped. VVU.

Of course she didn't 'queue jump', she applied intelligence to a problem, it's not different from lurking until a new till opens or taking an alternative route to avoid a traffic jam. It's not the OP's fault that others aren't intelligent!

Emotionalsupportviper · 20/12/2022 10:54

Reugny · 20/12/2022 10:40

I've been on more than one bus in my part of London where bus drivers have allowed a mum to fold down a buggy before driving off so more buggies can fit on.

They have also allowed more buggies than they should on the bus due to it being in the middle of the day and raining.

This morning one stopped for me to let my daughter on when were weren't at a bus stop. On other occasions they have waited for people particularly young children running for the bus at a bus stop.

I've overheard from bus drivers more than once that they behave differently to the public depending on the area of London they are driving in.

We have some lovely bus drivers round here, too!

And some of them have a lot to put up with. One of the school routes used to be manic- teenagers screaming, fighting, pushing and carrying on*. I can remember a Scottish driver we had saying he would rather drive the last bus back through the Gorbals than do that school run (I think he was tongue-in-cheek . . . )

*I will say though, that although the school was in a really rough area, and the kids were are rough as badgers' arses, they would help women with young children and shopping and stand up for elderly people. I once even took my courage in both hands and asked a gang of lads not to swear, please, because there were small children on the bus and they shouldn't hear it. I expected to get my head in my hands to play with, but they just stopped swearing

JudgeJ · 20/12/2022 10:56

supersonicginandtonic · 19/12/2022 22:39

Sneaky, selfish and spineless. Takes seconds for to fold your buggy and sit with baby on your knee.

Love the number of people who are jealous of others' ingenuity!

RedHelenB · 20/12/2022 10:57

You pushed in. Yes technically you were on the bus first but you knew 2 others were waiting and jumped the queue. So yes, ywbu.

RedHelenB · 20/12/2022 10:58

viques · 19/12/2022 22:42

Good for you. When I come out of my local station I walk to the “earlier” bus stop, it’s so close you can actually see it from the station bus stop. I always get a seat.

That's a different scenario though.

ScroogeMcDuckling · 20/12/2022 10:59

The bus stop up the hill from me is in a poor phone signal area, and when the bus pulls up there, the ticket machine goes red and can’t read your oyster/bank card, and the driver always says “get on”.

Their is a bus stop practically opposite my house, but I like walking up the steep hill every morning as part of my stretches excerise.

One bloke in his 20s phoned TFL and asked for a refund because he was charged at the stop opposite my house every morning, and every morning that week the ticket machine stopped working at the next stop for three stops.

You could actually here him explaining it all, the end of the conversation was “why should I walk up the hill?”

Emotionalsupportviper · 20/12/2022 10:59

Notanotherone6 · 20/12/2022 10:50

Well aren't you charming?

That's, of course, if this actually happened. I don't believe a word of it.

OP is just joking!

Lighten up.

JudgeJ · 20/12/2022 11:00

DuplicateUserName · 19/12/2022 23:08

50 years ago you weren't allowed on a bus without a folding buggy that went in the luggage rack.

Almost 50 years ago I recall travelling in Gib hwere the driver would stack the folded buggies, usually McLarens which were essentially a thick plastic bag on a frame, across the steering wheel, it got a bit hairy after about 6 and he was squinting through them to drive!

SleepingStandingUp · 20/12/2022 11:05

They have also allowed more buggies than they should on the bus due to it being in the middle of the day and raining.
@Reugny I've been on a bus with 5 buggies.

And I've also been on a near empty bus with my double buggy whilst the driver has refused to let a secind huggy on because my buggy (slim side by side which fits in either buggy space) constitutes two buggies. I've defended the poor woman who wasn't allowed in and told no, you have equivalent to two buggies. Bloody nonsense. But that lack of consistency means I'd be very wary about starting to get a baby or toddler out of the buggy without fear the driver will just drive off. Some are awesome. Some of them enjoy being dicks.

OneTC · 20/12/2022 11:11

JudgeJ · 20/12/2022 10:56

Love the number of people who are jealous of others' ingenuity!

It's because benefitting at the expense of someone else doesn't sit comfortably with some people.

The OPs intentions were clear and she acted on the presumption that someone would be missing out

EndlessRain1 · 20/12/2022 11:13

JudgeJ · 20/12/2022 10:54

Of course she didn't 'queue jump', she applied intelligence to a problem, it's not different from lurking until a new till opens or taking an alternative route to avoid a traffic jam. It's not the OP's fault that others aren't intelligent!

She applied intelligence, and then an absolute lack of common decency by not folding, when she by her own admission could have done so, so she knew one woman would be left behind.

LikeTearsInRain · 20/12/2022 11:16

Partygal · 20/12/2022 10:43

Got my car back from the garage. I’ll give them a toot and a wave if they are at the bus stop when I drive past later!

Haha yes and everyone else at the stop will clap and cheer!

SleepingStandingUp · 20/12/2022 11:17

@JoyBeorge

I'd ban buggys from busses altogether myself.+

So are you offering to drive me the 15 miles to my sons hospital appts or buying me a car? Twins who were a couple of months old and a 5 yo on o2. How exactly do I get 2 buses each way to his appts? Or does me not driving mean he doesn't actually need to see the cardiologist twice a year?

Stressedmum2017 · 20/12/2022 11:21

Well if you come across as much of a ball bag in real life as you do on here I'm going to hazard a guess you did more to rile the other woman once she was on the bus than you are letting on.
Oh and obviously the police dont care, they are there for people breaking the law not just being general shit heads whilst out and about.

NewSee · 20/12/2022 11:27

Yeah I think that was selfish of you.

They had been waiting and you had only just got there.

I can see by your attitude that you think you are above those that don’t have a car and therefore you should get priority on the bus.

SleepingStandingUp · 20/12/2022 11:28

Bepis · 20/12/2022 02:04

@VacancyAtNumber10AGAIN You can get umbrella style prams for newborns. I had one for mine as I used the buses a lot and needed something that wasn't bulky.

Even with an umbrella type double, I couldn't have collapsed mine with very young twins in the post covid World. No one would have offered to help, even assuming that those that did are people is trust my young babies with

Calphurnia88 · 20/12/2022 11:30

Dick move OP. Smart (although was it, given they'd clocked you?), but still a dick move.

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