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Why is it taboo to discuss finances on mumsnet if your considered rich ?

401 replies

Hawkins001 · 17/12/2022 19:20

don't want to make this a thread about a thread, but if your earning say around 90k etc, as an example why is it taboo to try to discuss spending priorities in the current climate ?

we live in a capitalist society, and their has always been different levels of wealth across all sectors of society,

So is it a case of everyone has to wait until a certain level has been achieved across society before the rich or perceived rich can discuss spending priorities on mumsnet ?

OP posts:
BorisJohnsonsHair · 17/12/2022 20:01

It's called tact, OP.
It's called not rubbing it in
It's called not making people feel inadequate.

DashboardConfessional · 17/12/2022 20:01

Hawkins001 · 17/12/2022 19:59

Then can you find a specific quote to backup your perspectives please ?

It's on the first page!

Good lord. I'm out.

Hawkins001 · 17/12/2022 20:01

Are some posters trying to derail my point in the original op ?

As .I'm confused by the brigade perspectives ?

OP posts:
Usernamen · 17/12/2022 20:01

I am sick of the phrase “tone deaf” being used to close down a debate or trash a thread. You see it time and time again on the holidays board. If people get upset by the fact that others have more than them, they can just not click on the thread and avoid certain boards. It’s not hard.

What seems to happen is that people purposely wade into discussions they have nothing useful to contribute to and project their bitterness and disappointment about their own life.

It’s part of a wider culture in society where everyone wants to be a victim and personal responsibility has completely gone out of the window.

Itsthewhitehat · 17/12/2022 20:01

PetrasPony · 17/12/2022 19:57

If you read the thread it helps to understand

I have read the thread. I don’t understand m, when it wasn’t the Op, why it keeps being brought up and the Op being asked about who makes up ‘The SEN brigade’.

As though Op has to police everyone on the thread.

PetrasPony · 17/12/2022 20:02

BorisJohnsonsHair · 17/12/2022 20:01

It's called tact, OP.
It's called not rubbing it in
It's called not making people feel inadequate.

But why does that fall to those in the fortunate positions and not to those being offended by others success.

Most don’t post cold about these things, but if someone has asked how much posters earn, it’s not tactless to reply honestly, or do you think those on higher incomes should lie or not reply to save the feelings of the poor?

Hawkins001 · 17/12/2022 20:03

Usernamen · 17/12/2022 20:01

I am sick of the phrase “tone deaf” being used to close down a debate or trash a thread. You see it time and time again on the holidays board. If people get upset by the fact that others have more than them, they can just not click on the thread and avoid certain boards. It’s not hard.

What seems to happen is that people purposely wade into discussions they have nothing useful to contribute to and project their bitterness and disappointment about their own life.

It’s part of a wider culture in society where everyone wants to be a victim and personal responsibility has completely gone out of the window.

That was basically my point in beginning this thread, was to ask about this, as many threads it's the same type of style used to science the debates or has threads pulled

OP posts:
PetrasPony · 17/12/2022 20:03

Itsthewhitehat · 17/12/2022 20:01

I have read the thread. I don’t understand m, when it wasn’t the Op, why it keeps being brought up and the Op being asked about who makes up ‘The SEN brigade’.

As though Op has to police everyone on the thread.

Because @DashboardConfessional is an idiot, that’s why it keeps being brought up.

Hawkins001 · 17/12/2022 20:03

*slience

OP posts:
Sindonym · 17/12/2022 20:04

Well this thread is certainly feel good.

Hawkins001 · 17/12/2022 20:05

DashboardConfessional · 17/12/2022 20:01

It's on the first page!

Good lord. I'm out.

Boarding gate 2, at Heathrow airport is ready for your boarding

OP posts:
Peacelily38 · 17/12/2022 20:05

Usernamen · 17/12/2022 20:01

I am sick of the phrase “tone deaf” being used to close down a debate or trash a thread. You see it time and time again on the holidays board. If people get upset by the fact that others have more than them, they can just not click on the thread and avoid certain boards. It’s not hard.

What seems to happen is that people purposely wade into discussions they have nothing useful to contribute to and project their bitterness and disappointment about their own life.

It’s part of a wider culture in society where everyone wants to be a victim and personal responsibility has completely gone out of the window.

Sadly I have to agree..

Itsthewhitehat · 17/12/2022 20:05

PetrasPony · 17/12/2022 20:03

Because @DashboardConfessional is an idiot, that’s why it keeps being brought up.

Ah, thank you. That actually (oddly) does make it, make more sense.

TabithaTittlemouse · 17/12/2022 20:06

We don’t talk about being off. It’s not allowed.

Once you get called tone deaf 41 times you grow a beard.

It is bonkers but we must all appear to struggle.

ILoveeCakes · 17/12/2022 20:06

Mumsnet is "SEN Brigade" HQ. Here they come............incoming................!

Frabbits · 17/12/2022 20:07

It's not taboo, but certainly in a time when many people are struggling you need to try not to be a tone deaf wanker and do things like claim that 90k is not a high salarly.

Because it really, really is. It puts you in the top 5% of earners worldwide. Sure, you might earn that money but at least have the grace to recognise how privileged you are compared to the majority of everyone else.

Hawkins001 · 17/12/2022 20:09

Frabbits · 17/12/2022 20:07

It's not taboo, but certainly in a time when many people are struggling you need to try not to be a tone deaf wanker and do things like claim that 90k is not a high salarly.

Because it really, really is. It puts you in the top 5% of earners worldwide. Sure, you might earn that money but at least have the grace to recognise how privileged you are compared to the majority of everyone else.

And I can completely understand, but as this is an online forum, and society is ment to be a mix of wealth levels, then there will always be various levels, so when is it acceptable to have a thread to discuss x topics,

OP posts:
burnoutbabe · 17/12/2022 20:11

So in the thread "how to get a high income/savings" those who put they have high income from say being an accountant or lawyer, midst also include a paragraph to say they recognise their luck and how fortunate they are and generally play it down to not offend anyone.

Rather than just be factual about it? Is it a women thing? Apologising for doing well?

TeenDivided · 17/12/2022 20:11

Don't claim 90k is a poor salary.

Don't go on about your DC struggling with maths and being bottom set and then drip feed this is at a grammar school where even bottom sets get 7s.

Don't claim that GCSEs are 'really easy' and 'anyone can pass them' and that 6s are really the same as Ds.

Crikeyalmighty · 17/12/2022 20:12

@Afterfire - you are so right. Having been unwell for last few months I've really realised how so many peoples lifestyles these days are totally dependent on them being fit and well . High rents, high mortgages, car payments, etc . I've noticed quite a few posts where there appears to be a level of disrespect if anyone says they are low earners/claim benefits without actually understanding or wanting to acknowledge that there can be so many reasons for this position that don't include being a total undereducated sponger with no work ethic. Life can throw some complete curve balls- wishing you all well

GreenLunchBox · 17/12/2022 20:13

Frabbits · 17/12/2022 20:07

It's not taboo, but certainly in a time when many people are struggling you need to try not to be a tone deaf wanker and do things like claim that 90k is not a high salarly.

Because it really, really is. It puts you in the top 5% of earners worldwide. Sure, you might earn that money but at least have the grace to recognise how privileged you are compared to the majority of everyone else.

We've become brainwashed by the government to fight each other in the lower and middle income bands. People/families on £90k household income are not rich. We need to look at the proper wealthy, not just people on PAYE.

FFS, the average nurse salary in the US is £70k (gbp, not dollars). In this country our nurses are visiting food banks. It's not difficult to see why. It's a race to the bottom here.

Itsthewhitehat · 17/12/2022 20:13

burnoutbabe · 17/12/2022 20:11

So in the thread "how to get a high income/savings" those who put they have high income from say being an accountant or lawyer, midst also include a paragraph to say they recognise their luck and how fortunate they are and generally play it down to not offend anyone.

Rather than just be factual about it? Is it a women thing? Apologising for doing well?

Definitely something people expect of women.

Oddly, the women who post what their Dh earns, aren’t expected to apologise for their Dhs earnings.

Rinatinabina · 17/12/2022 20:15

Don’t know OP, there are definitely people on here with a lot more than me (the style and beauty threads sometimes blow my mind) but it has never offended me. I’m not a child, I can cope. If you think it will be too upsetting to read something don’t open the thread.

I dislike the tone policing too, it’s interesting how other people live.It’s good to hear a range of experiences.

Needarest22 · 17/12/2022 20:17

And I can completely understand, but as this is an online forum, and society is ment to be a mix of wealth levels, then there will always be various levels, so when is it acceptable to have a thread to discuss x topics

Society in not meant (sic) to be unequal. Its been made that way. Its more natural if it is equal. Capitalism is a bad system that is polarising people and ruining the planet. Not sure why you would normalise it.

Rinatinabina · 17/12/2022 20:17

Also give me a nice warm glow when a woman posts her 6 figure income, really does. I don’t think any woman should feel the need to feel bad about having forged a well paid career. I don’t have one for various reasons but I would never begrudge another woman her success.

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