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Why is it taboo to discuss finances on mumsnet if your considered rich ?

401 replies

Hawkins001 · 17/12/2022 19:20

don't want to make this a thread about a thread, but if your earning say around 90k etc, as an example why is it taboo to try to discuss spending priorities in the current climate ?

we live in a capitalist society, and their has always been different levels of wealth across all sectors of society,

So is it a case of everyone has to wait until a certain level has been achieved across society before the rich or perceived rich can discuss spending priorities on mumsnet ?

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GarlicSauce · 17/12/2022 19:35

Mumsnet is still heavily skewed toward high earners. You only need to look at the responses when people ask about certain private schools. Lots of people found their way to Mumsnet from researching school reviews. We make lots and lots and could honestly use a good finances discussion because are generally clueless and certainly haven't invested wisely. But Mumsnet isn't the place to ask! You'll just get a bunch of 'stealth boast' replies.

Hawkins001 · 17/12/2022 19:37

Sindonym · 17/12/2022 19:35

I have no idea why you have to discuss finances on mumsnet. If you must then do, but realise that you are going to be making some people feel a bit grim. And it doesn’t mean they are jealous either.

Would you stand in a mixed group with people you know are struggling and talk about how to spend wads of cash? Some do, but it always seems ignorant to me.

Which I can understand, but as this is a online forums, surely then the ones that can understand the ops perspectives can then engage with the discussion ?

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Itsthewhitehat · 17/12/2022 19:37

It depends on the context.

People on huge amounts claiming poverty is annoying. And some are just goady.

But I think in a lot of cases it’s people (understandably) envious and pissed off at their own position, who feel it’s not acceptable to post these things. Regardless of the context.

But I remember when I started posting here, I was piss poor. It was actually those threads that spurred me on into pursuing a much better paid job and career. instead of being pissy about it, I looked into careers mentioned and went from there.

Candlemas · 17/12/2022 19:37

Hooverphobe · 17/12/2022 19:28

I think many of us are simply astounded that someone earns 90k but doesn’t know the difference between your and you’re, and there and their. 🤷‍♀️

This.

Hawkins001 · 17/12/2022 19:38

GarlicSauce · 17/12/2022 19:35

Mumsnet is still heavily skewed toward high earners. You only need to look at the responses when people ask about certain private schools. Lots of people found their way to Mumsnet from researching school reviews. We make lots and lots and could honestly use a good finances discussion because are generally clueless and certainly haven't invested wisely. But Mumsnet isn't the place to ask! You'll just get a bunch of 'stealth boast' replies.

I've not read the more boasting types , it's usually the opposite ones of people saying the debate or discussion is not the best due to the current climate etc,

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PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 17/12/2022 19:39

It depends what the discussion is. If someone on £90k is complaining about being hard up, obviously they are going to piss off the people on £20k.

Hawkins001 · 17/12/2022 19:39

Itsthewhitehat · 17/12/2022 19:37

It depends on the context.

People on huge amounts claiming poverty is annoying. And some are just goady.

But I think in a lot of cases it’s people (understandably) envious and pissed off at their own position, who feel it’s not acceptable to post these things. Regardless of the context.

But I remember when I started posting here, I was piss poor. It was actually those threads that spurred me on into pursuing a much better paid job and career. instead of being pissy about it, I looked into careers mentioned and went from there.

Congrats on your achievements. Much appreciated for your perspectives

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Hawkins001 · 17/12/2022 19:40

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 17/12/2022 19:39

It depends what the discussion is. If someone on £90k is complaining about being hard up, obviously they are going to piss off the people on £20k.

that's understandable, but it seems odd at times.

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Hawkins001 · 17/12/2022 19:40

Peacelily38 · 17/12/2022 19:34

I agree OP.

Much appreciated

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DashboardConfessional · 17/12/2022 19:42

"The SEN brigade."

What a breathtakingly insensitive and ignorant thing to say.

YoullLog · 17/12/2022 19:42
Biscuit
Sindonym · 17/12/2022 19:42

DashboardConfessional · 17/12/2022 19:42

"The SEN brigade."

What a breathtakingly insensitive and ignorant thing to say.

Yeah I thought that.

Itsthewhitehat · 17/12/2022 19:43

Sindonym · 17/12/2022 19:35

I have no idea why you have to discuss finances on mumsnet. If you must then do, but realise that you are going to be making some people feel a bit grim. And it doesn’t mean they are jealous either.

Would you stand in a mixed group with people you know are struggling and talk about how to spend wads of cash? Some do, but it always seems ignorant to me.

Most of the threads here are things people wouldn’t stand in a group and talk about.

There’s always going to be people worse off. Are you suggesting I can’t post about something good my ND son does because other people with ND children may never see their kids do that?

I certainly don’t feel people can’t post about good things in their lives, because it’s not good for me. I love posts about what posters want to buy for their mum at Christmas. My mum is dead. I don’t think people should stop mentioning mums because I miss mine.

GarlicSauce · 17/12/2022 19:44

@Candlemas If you think grammar and spelling are what earns the big money you'd be very very wrong!

Hawkins001 · 17/12/2022 19:45

DashboardConfessional · 17/12/2022 19:42

"The SEN brigade."

What a breathtakingly insensitive and ignorant thing to say.

Not sure I Understand can you explain your perspectives please ?

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Sindonym · 17/12/2022 19:46

Itsthewhitehat · 17/12/2022 19:43

Most of the threads here are things people wouldn’t stand in a group and talk about.

There’s always going to be people worse off. Are you suggesting I can’t post about something good my ND son does because other people with ND children may never see their kids do that?

I certainly don’t feel people can’t post about good things in their lives, because it’s not good for me. I love posts about what posters want to buy for their mum at Christmas. My mum is dead. I don’t think people should stop mentioning mums because I miss mine.

I said people can post whatever they like.

Orangio · 17/12/2022 19:47

I think there's an element of rubbing salt in the wound, but it's worse than that actually.
So for example you get people who have a very intelligent child posting about their various super abilities: there's nothing wrong with that in theory, but it might be upsetting to someone who is worrying about their child's learning difficulty. It rubs salt in their wound.
BUT there is nothing the parents of the academically gifted child can do to help the parents of the of the child having difficulties. Knowing that others have been dealt a better hand is something you can accept.

In the case of poor Vs rich, the rich people (and yes £90k is rich compared to the average salary) COULD, if they chose, share their wealth. If all rich people did this, the country would have less poor people. Many rich people choose not to share their wealth. They would prefer three foreign holidays a year whilst a mile away people struggle to keep warm. If that's their choice that's that, but I think it's insensitive to the point of vileness to post publicly about their riches. In this case, poorer people know that others have been dealt a better hand, but also that they choose not to use it all to help those less lucky. It's hard to imagine why people wouldn't want to help your freezing four year old.

If you have a genuine point to discuss, you can do it without banging on about exactly how much spending money you have per month. "Help me invest £20k wisely for the future" is better than "We've got a spare £2k per month while even Henry's private school fees don't eat into".

PetrasPony · 17/12/2022 19:47

DashboardConfessional · 17/12/2022 19:42

"The SEN brigade."

What a breathtakingly insensitive and ignorant thing to say.

But not factually incorrect, so many on here seem to gravitate towards threads where they can either accuse children of being NT, any naughty behaviour ‘must be NT’

or on the flip side there is a competitive who has the most difficult to live with child race to the bottom. Someone can’t post they’re upset their NT child refuses school because someone else will be along to tell them they’re lucky as their NT child can’t speak or needs a tube.

GreenLunchBox · 17/12/2022 19:47

Hawkins001 · 17/12/2022 19:20

don't want to make this a thread about a thread, but if your earning say around 90k etc, as an example why is it taboo to try to discuss spending priorities in the current climate ?

we live in a capitalist society, and their has always been different levels of wealth across all sectors of society,

So is it a case of everyone has to wait until a certain level has been achieved across society before the rich or perceived rich can discuss spending priorities on mumsnet ?

I don't think this is true. 90k isn't a high income by any stretch of the imagination

Usernamen · 17/12/2022 19:48

DashboardConfessional · 17/12/2022 19:42

"The SEN brigade."

What a breathtakingly insensitive and ignorant thing to say.

Everyone wants to be a victim.

I think OP has a point.

butterfliedtwo · 17/12/2022 19:48

Needarest22 · 17/12/2022 19:29

Cos some people can currently hardly eat or heat 🙄

Quite.

burnoutbabe · 17/12/2022 19:48

It's just this forum it's considered rude.

If you go to money saving expert and post in the say isa section -I have 85k which fixed rate isa should I go for

Or I have 200k to invest in shares, where should I start

No one would say anything about being too rich, they'd just answer your question.

Here, not so much.

TeenDivided · 17/12/2022 19:49

I think it's the phrasing that matters.

e.g. Earning 90k, saying 'can't afford' or 'struggling' v 'we committed to private fees so can't prioritise X'

e.g. 'My DC's GCSE results were awful, they only got 7s' v 'DCs results were good, but still below what school predicted, we feel a bit disappointed'

underneaththeash · 17/12/2022 19:49

OP your posts really do not make sense.
read them back before you post.

AreOttersJustWetCats · 17/12/2022 19:49

Hooverphobe · 17/12/2022 19:28

I think many of us are simply astounded that someone earns 90k but doesn’t know the difference between your and you’re, and there and their. 🤷‍♀️

😂