to believe H&M because of defamation laws?

[Shejustwentthere]

I've watched the full series on Harry and Meghan.
A few things have struck me.
The most important thing is that there are defamation laws in England. Damage to your reputation is grounds for pursuing such a case. That no such case has yet been initiated by William or Kate, suggests that there is truth in Harry and Meghan's version of events.
Meghan comes across as very vulnerable but very real. She also comes across as very much in love still; as does Harry.
I admire Harry for his decision to leave. I do buy his logic; if the tax payer had even 1% of a contribution to their lives financially, the media could then claim a public interest.
Harry comes across as incredibly intelligent. He has always been touted as the dumb one. He seems to be very much more than some dumb guy.
He adores Meghan and that seems to be reciprocated. She gave him an out.

Harry is very much is mother's son. Diana would have supported Meghan I think. I think they were kindred spirits (Diana and Harry) in a way. Pawns in the game where the king and queen reign...

Look up the dark triad personality traits, MM ticks every single characteristic. She is a master manipulator and when things didn’t go her way threw monumental tantrums. She has photographed, recorded and documented everything for years with a televised series in mind. There is nothing genuine or sincere about her, everything is for PR and self gain. She was a complete hypocrite about her father having arranged multiple pap shots herself. She is goading the palace to remove their titles so she becomes a princess by default.
And as for Harry, he is as thick as compacted pig shit and full of jealousy. He is just the stepping stone MM needed for global attention.

Have to say I do find H & M more than just a little bit litigious. They'll sue anyone over the slightest thing if they think they have a case. It's how they will earn their living now, suing people and chat shows. William and his brood mare Princess Katie are just show pie es for the institution. The public love the image of them and will embrace them as King Wills and Queen Katie one day. Charles and Camilla? I don't see it a lasting reign mostly because the public just don't endear to them. I don't recall as many people queuing up to egg the Queen as they are her son right now.

She was an actress - trained to be fake

I know this sounds trite but people with money suffer too.

I inherited a large amount
of money recently from a grandparent. I'm comfortable with money.

However, I had a horrific life. I was sexually abused at a very early age, I had extremely abusive parents. No one has ever shown me love or affection. I just remember sexual abuse and emotional abuse.

I struggle a lot with this life. Money is not the true wealth in life. Receiving love and kindness is wealth. Having people that love you is wealth. I just want to point out that you can be technically rich with money, and still suffer all the time.

How does she become a princess by default?

Harry? Very intelligent?

I think your bar of what you deem intelligent is set embarrassingly low OP.

OP
You are beyond deluded. MM is a narcissist and Harry, far from being intelligent is deluded and spoilt. We've seen inconsistencies in their story time and time again.

I do understand their desire to create a new, freer,life but it didn't have to be done at such cost to the family. Of wait, it did, to sustain their amazing lifestyle.

The three things that offend me most are the use of paparazzi footage that had nothing to do with them, the constant filming of their private moments from the outset of their relationship ( who films themselves or their wife prettily weeping) and H's preposterous statement that he was terrified when his brother shouted / he's a soldier FFS!

The whole thing was nauseating and egocentric.

Just wait until the former staff break their NDAs .

I think they are both self-obsessed narcissists, and that the royal family is adopting their usual policy of "Never complain, never explain" because engaging with them will be the equivalent of feeding the trolls.

H & M aren't worth the energy. They're like a couple of toddlers kicking and screaming and then holding their breath to get their own way. The best thing to do is just ignore them.

If she wasn't a Duchess then she would use her husband's title and be Princess Henry/Harry, in the same way we have Princess Michael of Kent.

And as for Harry, he is as thick as compacted pig shit and full of jealousy. He is just the stepping stone MM needed for global attention.

Yep.

Just out of interest, can you defrock" a prince?

(Asking for a monarchy)

@WifeMotherWorker "She is goading the palace to remove their titles so she becomes a princess by default."

How would that work? so if Charles says 'no more Sussex titles for you Megan' how would that automatically make her a Princess (she's a princess by her actions tbf...)

The UK, not England. If you’re going to slag a country and its people off at least get the name of it right.

Because I happened to be scrolling past, happened to read your post out of passing curiosity, and was sceptical that anyone could think Harry was ‘incredibly intelligent' and Meghan Markle was 'very vulnerable but very real'. However, those are your opinions and I’ve given mine, which is how MN works, after all. I’ll move on to other threads that catch my eye and leave you to yours now, OP.

Yeah they’re so above it, they feed it. Like a pet.

She chose the wrong man to pursue if that’s her nature don’t you think? She could have had anyone but CHOSE THAT LIFE THEN MOANED?

*it is simple to me in that anyone who has fallen out and alienated both maternal and paternal sides of her birth family and then manages to fall.out with all members of the family she marries into should be taking a good hard look at themselves to work out whether they bear any blame whatsoever for the ness. .As it is no responsibility is being accepted for any if it . It is always someone else's fault ( even down to the miscarriage and having no.relatives from her birth family at the wedding).

And before someone points out how dysfunctional.her family are there seems to be decent ones amongst them.who.were close to.M before she met H but who were also.excluded.*

Where has she alienated her maternal family, her mother has been by her side the whole time.

The only people complaining she alienated them are the Markles, half siblings she didn’t grow up with and barely knew. Most of the nasty vitriol has come from Samantha, a woman who didn’t give a shit about her own children she abandoned abandoned them, they were eventually adopted by their paternal grandparents. And yet would have us believe she had this amazing close bound with her half little sister 🤔

Meghan is very close to her niece who appeared in the show and who was not allowed to attend the wedding because the palace didn’t like the optics of the niece being invited and not the nasty mother.

Sorry I am giggling about defrocking a prince. I think that there must be some way as there are all sorts of people swanning around the Continent whose ancestors were Royalty . They are now plain old Mr/Ms etc. I can't remember if the Hapsburgs aren't forbidden from having titles. I 'll look it up.

Meghan comes across as very vulnerable but very real.

😂

Real? No, she comes across as faux and contrived.

Vulnerable? No, thin-skinned, snide and retaliatory.

to be fair to Meghan harry sold her a dream, as said previously he was bigging her up even in the series, about how she was the new Diana, better at the job than the rest, they were all jealous of her, she was going to revolutionise the family, he’d married a super star etc, so if it’s anyone’s fault it’s Harry’s for selling that shit and I guess meghans for being deluded enough she believed the hype he was giving her in terms of her future role .

meghan was never going to revolutionise the royal family and throw out centuries of tradition, she was never going to be the new Diana, no one really thought he was marrying a super star, the royals were never all jealous of her, which is just the line harry used to explain why his batshit bigging up didn’t happen.

Just like they were never going to be allowed to monetise their titles, collaborate with the queen and go half in half out. Christ as soon as he announced it everyone knew that was never going to happen.

it’s why living in Nottingham cottage was an issue for them, they were going to be bigger than William and Kate, bigger than the queen. So they deserved much better accommodation

what is it that palace leaked, they had to be told they were not bigger than the queen? She was the star. that should never have had to be said.

so for me, I think the blame is primarily on harry. For being so jealous of William and Kate that he went this route, and then on Meghan for believing she was getting that role. And of course for William and Harry’s parents and grandparents , for ever allowing this dysfunctional dynamic to occur between the brothers. This sibling rivalry and jealousy. Which is at its base.

It seems that the monarch can take away any titles. It's happening in other countries at the moment i. e Denmark.

The most important thing is that there are defamation laws in England. Damage to your reputation is grounds for pursuing such a case. That no such case has yet been initiated by William or Kate, suggests that there is truth in Harry and Meghan's version of events.

The Royals don't sue. They never have, never will.

I can't believe so many people don't see it how media (briefed / working with palace insiders) has worked on this. For example do you believe just because you don't see any bad stories on William, that there isn't any? And how many of the claims also repeated here, have actually no truth (they want privacy, Meghan bullying staff etc). This reminds me very much of Brexit, no one is going to change their minds even if you see how bad its impact is.

I'm fascinated by your belief in Harry's intelligence, OP. Could you tell us exactly what leads you to think that?

Except the times when they do 😆www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8372889/Kate-William-sue-Tatler-cruel-sexist-woman-shaming-article.html or abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/kate-middleton-topless-photo-royals-sue-french-magazine/story?id=17233736