To think WTF is going on with Royal Mail?

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What is the actual point of them anymore? I sent a small parcel 1st class 2 weeks ago and it's still not arrived...

Royal Mail are totally unreliable. Two parcels my daughter sent were never delivered. Who knows what happened to them, RM don’t give a shit. The workers are a bunch of dinosaurs, the business is losing money so no you can’t have a pay rise without massive reforms, it’s not rocket science.

A colleague with a similar aged child who worked different Sundays looked after my child and I reciprocated on the Sundays she worked.

I will say that if it was upto me, every business would close on Sunday, except for emergency services etc. But if we live in a 24/7 society, then the Royal Mail must adapt to this.

Well lucky you, you had that option.

But I do not fit one minute believe that you were not aware that you’d have to work Sundays and then it was changed.

not everyone is happy to dump their child with a “colleague”, it’s wholly inappropriate and not acceptable.

you should’ve been in a union that wouldn’t want that situation that you’re having to accept having childcare that’s not regulated and quite frankly dangerous in terms of insurance and licensing.

People quite rightly won’t do that, with their children.

I wouldn’t, not ever.

But we don’t all have the same standards.

I was fully aware that I might have to work some Sundays when I took the job. But I was in the job for I think about 2 years before I (or anyone else) had to work one.

Insurance and licensing? For my child to stay at a friends house for a few hours?

Well then that’s no way competitive to RM, so why are you saying it is.

they never signed up for Sundays and different hours.

yes, I think getting a colleague (or it’s now friend) to “childmind” is woefully poor parenting, but as I say each to their own.

Meanwhile, the posties will continue their fight for themselves and their families, to not be put in that position.

because they never signed up for it!

Comparative not competitive

Well if things don't change, Royal Mail will go out of business. People will go with a more reliable service that caters to the wants and needs of their customers, not the wants and needs of their employees. It's ridiculous to think it could ever be any other way. Can you imagine going to a supermarket late in the afternoon only to be told it was now closing at 3pm because of the need of staff to maintain a work/life balance?

Well we will see, but i’m massively proud that they won’t just bow down to the establishment, that they put their families first.

You agreed to Sunday working, got a colleague to take your children.

I would never have wanted that for my children, nor would DH.

We carefully chose our hours, to stop that stuff.

As I say he’s about to retire, it’s not about him, it’s about others not having to do that type of stuff.

It remains to be seen if the RM that Simon Thompson wants ever happens.

At the end of the day the posties, if RM doesn’t survive will work for shit gig economies like DPD.

But they’ll have put up a fight and also if they win, it’s better for the likes of DPD, because they’ll need to be offered decent terms to stay.

All Royal Mail need to do is stop trying to impose the new contracts, and give a reasonable pay rise.
No one should be forced to work when there is no childcare or respite care available. It should be something you opt into and can opt out of again with no penalty.

Also you forget the USO, the government have refused the right for them to relinquish it.

Or just get a colleague to have your children….. perfectly acceptable!

NOT!!

The thing is, cheap isn't the most important for me, I'm prepared to pay more for a reliable service. I send out several parcels a week, I'm not going to waste my time and money on a company that I can't trust to deliver the bloody parcel when they say they will. If they deliver it at all. And I'm afraid that's the problem for the striking workers, the service from Royal Mail is appalling. And I'm sorry, but I have a business to run and I'm not going to use RM out of sentimentality.

Who else is delivering letters across the country 6 days a week?

I had a quick look and evri charge £2.69 to send a letter from my nearest drop off point (1.3 miles away compared to 200m for my post box) to London, with no option for next day delivery. DPD want £2.99 for the same service or £5.69 if I want the letter delivered to the actual address.

Maybe instead of moaning about Royal Mail workers striking the moaners should be encouraging Royal Mail to increase the price of stamps to somewhere between £3 and £6 a pop. Although if they did that I'm sure the moaners would then be having a hissyfit about it everything they needed to send a letter/document/application/whatever.

Our postie says RM is focussing on parcels anyway. There's already talk about only delivering letters on odd days rather than daily.m, and for rural routes (like ours) delivering to a hub and not doing any routes for post.

Regardless, I love our rural posties. They are all lovely, come when they say they will, know the quirks of the area, reliably leave parcels somewhere actually safe if they need leaving etc.

I really don't think losing Mail carrying is a great idea so support them fighting for better conditions. But only if they do that to provide a service. If they bugger about and then restrict mail delivery I'll be annoyed. I support RM for my parcel sending etc because I also get letters to my door. If that stops I'll not be so loyal and will go with who's cheapest/quickest.

Should add, my Evri driver is also awesome.

Can you imagine employing a supermarket worker for the hours of 9-3, then saying “oh actually you’re now going nights”, what do you mean you can’t get childcare? We need you to work nights now, tough! Oh. D by the way, we’re also cutting your salary.

Or do you think that perhaps they employ people on twilight shift or nights, because those are the hours that suit them?

No but I can imagine a supermarket changing their working hours/shift patterns and making people redundant or managing them out.

40 years ago there weren't nearly as many supermarkets as there are today, and there were still many local shops, butchers, bakers, fishmongers, greengrocers etc that people used to shop at. Most of them used to only open 9-5 or similar restrictive hours. Supermarkets opened later into the evening and were cheaper. People started preferring to shop at supermarkets instead of their local shops and the local shops went out of business. The same is going to happen to Royal Mail at this rate.

Lots of people's shifts changes. That's part of working life - especially in the low skilled sector.

If you want a 9-5, weekday role then gain some qualifications and get a better job.

Which is exactly what I had to do when I was a postie and realised it wasn't ideal for me or my family.

Those who don't want to work Sundays will have to upskill and move on.

Most letters could be emails why are we still posting all these letters in the first place. The nhs itself would be much better off emailing less appointments would be missed.

Obviously those who don’t have an email would still need a letter but let’s face it those who don’t have an email are a minority group who’s getting smaller and smaller each day.

How many letters genuinely do most people post in their home life in a year? That couldn’t be a phone call a text or an email. How many companies don’t do paperless apart form the nhs.

I am waiting for one parcel from Evri that was dispatched 8 days ago. I received another fro. Procook, also with Evri that was delivered in 2 days, so it may be a regional problem with Evri.

I tried emailing an item I sold on Ebay, but the buyer insisted I send the actual physical item.

We had a letter from Santander saying our mortgage had increased 16p 🤣

Wonder how much it cost them to send the letter.

@Lincslady53 but facetious. Also, the poster you're replying to clearly said letter, not parcel.

Can’t believe people get iffy if a card doesn’t arrive , we sent 6 yesterday if they get to the destination, great, if not who cares it’s a card give them a ring or something nothing lost

It costs 68p to post it though plus the cost of the card

I know how much it costs & the price to send but in my mind it’s absolutely not the end of the world. As I said if it gets to the place so be it if it doesn’t who cares, I certainly don’t