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Really rude friend!

134 replies

EverythingWobbles · 11/12/2022 20:22

DH and I have invited about 10 couples over on Christmas eve for drinks/nibbles. I sent a text saying that we appreciate it's a busy day and completely understand if they can't make it, but would love if they could find time to pop over whether it be for 10 mins or 2 hours and to just let me know either way. (Sent 2 weeks ago)
Amazingly everyone is coming which is really lovely....but one particular friend (I invited her and hubby) hasn't replied, (yet still liking posts etc on fb and interacting normally so no issues as far as I'm aware).
We really need to know numbers, so dropped her a quick message yesterday saying we are trying to finalise numbers for buffet bits etc, and would be really grateful if she could let me know if they will have chance to pop round (again, explained no pressure and fully understand if busy)
She's read it and not responded again! AIBU to be really annoyed and find it rude?
I don't mind if she can't come, but surely just have the decency to respond! She's been on her phone today as I've seen her online. Do you just find some people ignorant??

OP posts:
OnTheBoardwalk · 11/12/2022 22:02

I wouldn’t respond straight away to the first text as doesn’t really sound like an invite, just people popping by and I don’t do that

if you’ve asked for a yes or no in your further texts I would reply

CourtneeLuv · 11/12/2022 22:06

bloodyplanes · 11/12/2022 21:53

People who do this are just rude op!! It really annoys me!

Yep. I'd go so far to not let her in if she turned up. Tell her I hadn't catered for her.

No rsvp, no hospitality.

stuntbubbles · 11/12/2022 22:11

CourtneeLuv · 11/12/2022 22:06

Yep. I'd go so far to not let her in if she turned up. Tell her I hadn't catered for her.

No rsvp, no hospitality.

Fucking hell.

If the OP did that it would really undermine the “no pressure!” bit of her confusing invitation.

Do people really order such a specific number of sausage rolls they can’t let their mate in the house if they forget to reply to a “pop in, whatever!” text?

cardibach · 11/12/2022 22:16

CaponeOnTax · 11/12/2022 21:52

Actually, this is exactly how Christmas works. It is zero to do with ‘better option’ and everything g to do with the moving parts of general family Christmas end of term, end of work, in-law travelling type arrangements.

So if your family Christmas routinely involves last minute stuff you can’t get out of, you turn down any other invitations. It’s simple.

BetterDrownedThanDuffer · 11/12/2022 22:28

CourtneeLuv · 11/12/2022 22:06

Yep. I'd go so far to not let her in if she turned up. Tell her I hadn't catered for her.

No rsvp, no hospitality.

Oh balls would you do that! To a friend? On Christmas Eve?

Why do people type such shite

CourtneeLuv · 11/12/2022 22:31

stuntbubbles · 11/12/2022 22:11

Fucking hell.

If the OP did that it would really undermine the “no pressure!” bit of her confusing invitation.

Do people really order such a specific number of sausage rolls they can’t let their mate in the house if they forget to reply to a “pop in, whatever!” text?

No, I'd have plenty of food.

I wouldn't let her in because she didn't have the decency to reply.

Or thought she could drop in because she had nothing better to do.

CourtneeLuv · 11/12/2022 22:33

BetterDrownedThanDuffer · 11/12/2022 22:28

Oh balls would you do that! To a friend? On Christmas Eve?

Why do people type such shite

She wouldn't be my friend from when she ignored my texts.

Why would someone think they could come to my house and eat my food and drink my drink if they can't even be bothered to reply to my text?

BetterDrownedThanDuffer · 11/12/2022 22:35

CourtneeLuv · 11/12/2022 22:33

She wouldn't be my friend from when she ignored my texts.

Why would someone think they could come to my house and eat my food and drink my drink if they can't even be bothered to reply to my text?

So you’d shut the door in her face if she did turn up.
Sure Jan.

Womencanlift · 11/12/2022 22:37

Bit of an extreme reaction OP to delete your whole MN account. But incase you are still reading, YABU

From her perspective you are contradicting yourself. On one hand you are saying it’s an informal get together, next you are saying she needs to RSVP so you know how many sausage rolls to buy. If it’s a pop in, informal event why the stress? Just cater for her to come and if she doesn’t then more for everyone else.

Its not like it’s a sit down dinner where she would be rude for not replying this. A get together as outlined in your original invite then no she isn’t being as rude as you make out she is

RockingMyFiftiesNot · 11/12/2022 22:40

I think it's rude not to reply, even if it's to say she can't commit yet. I don't think it's rude not to know what she's doing yet because let's face it Christmas can be quite complicated.
Personally I'd treat a Christmas gathering a bit differently to eg a birthday or anniversary party. Work out a flexible plan for your nibbles so you can keep the nibbles coming without wasting anything

Snoopystick · 11/12/2022 22:42

I really don’t understand why you can’t just ring her if you really need a response.

stuntbubbles · 11/12/2022 22:44

Work out a flexible plan for your nibbles so you can keep the nibbles coming without wasting anything
Little bulldog clip on the bag of Twiglets, sort of thing.

Bagsundermyeyestoday · 11/12/2022 22:49

CourtneeLuv · 11/12/2022 22:01

I'd rescind my invitation to someone that told me they can't tell me if they are coming to my event or not because 'they dont know what they are doing'.

Can't get more 'fuck you' than that.

I'd jog them on forever.

Such an overreaction, she may have already made tentative plans before getting this and is waiting to see of the previous thing is going ahead or not. It's not the same as waiting to see if you have a better offer Hmm

FrangipaniBlue · 11/12/2022 22:50

cansu · 11/12/2022 20:25

Maybe she just doesn't know yet. I have no idea what I will be doing on Xmas eve. She may be waiting until she does know.

See to me this is rude. It's almost saying "I'm waiting to see if I get a better offer"

WhereYouLeftIt · 11/12/2022 22:51

portugalq · 11/12/2022 21:12

That is a misuse of the word because, ironically, people are ignorant to what it truly means. You’ll see next to that dictionary definition it says “informal”. It’s another example of the dilution and misuse of our language.

Misuse? You need to get that stick out of your arse before it does you an injury.

Words have dictionary definitions, they also have colloquial usage. 'Ignorant' has been understood to mean 'discourteous or rude' for as long as I can remember (several decades).

RockingMyFiftiesNot · 11/12/2022 22:52

stuntbubbles · 11/12/2022 22:44

Work out a flexible plan for your nibbles so you can keep the nibbles coming without wasting anything
Little bulldog clip on the bag of Twiglets, sort of thing.

Well OP said
we are trying to finalise numbers for buffet bits etc,
Just keep some extra bits in the freezer, or keep a couple of extra cheeses in the fridge - it's not that hard to juggle this one person unknown quantity. Obviously a lot more difficult if you have a lot of people who are being non-committal.
And yes of course, every bag of twig lets needs a bull dog clip, just in case !

NippyWoowoo · 11/12/2022 22:53

2 people really won't affect your nibbles.

CourtneeLuv · 11/12/2022 22:54

Bagsundermyeyestoday · 11/12/2022 22:49

Such an overreaction, she may have already made tentative plans before getting this and is waiting to see of the previous thing is going ahead or not. It's not the same as waiting to see if you have a better offer Hmm

So not texting back to say that is rude Confused

Shoemadlady · 11/12/2022 22:54

If she's a friend that's good enough to want to spend Christmas Eve with, why can't you just call her and ask her?

CourtneeLuv · 11/12/2022 22:55

BetterDrownedThanDuffer · 11/12/2022 22:35

So you’d shut the door in her face if she did turn up.
Sure Jan.

I'd message her to tell her I assume she isn't coming and I'd see her around.

If she then turned up on my doorstep, yes, I would turn her away.

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 11/12/2022 23:01

stuntbubbles · 11/12/2022 20:40

I don’t think you can do a “no pressure, pop in for 10 mins or two hours, whatever” invitation and expect a confirmed RSVP for strict numbers and catering. It’s either/or. Either you’re breezy and it’s a pop-in situation with plenty of food and drink, or it’s a formal invitation. Your messages suggest the former, so of course she’s not responding – it’s the kind of thing you look at and think “Great, I’ll make a mental note/shove it in the diary in case we’re free” then go on ahead and organise your day regardless.

I think this is it. While I agree she should have at least messaged back and said “That sounds lovely - Christmas is mad busy, but we’ll come if we can” or similar, you can’t expect someone to treat a “pop in whenever, even if it’s only for ten minutes” invitation like it’s a formal catered event.

You started out with pop by if you can, at short notice and on what you yourself admit is a busy day for most people, but it’s turned into “But it’s only two weeks away, we’ve got to organise catering, we neeeeeed to know!!” If you can’t bung an extra tray of mini quiches in the oven when a couple of stragglers turn up, you can’t really manage a casual party at all.

Bagsundermyeyestoday · 11/12/2022 23:04

CourtneeLuv · 11/12/2022 22:54

So not texting back to say that is rude Confused

I did initially think that, but judging by some of the responses people would then be outraged so she's probably just waiting to give a proper answer. All the speculation is probably a waste anyway, OP should just call if its upsetting her this much 🤷‍♀️

Bagsundermyeyestoday · 11/12/2022 23:05

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 11/12/2022 23:01

I think this is it. While I agree she should have at least messaged back and said “That sounds lovely - Christmas is mad busy, but we’ll come if we can” or similar, you can’t expect someone to treat a “pop in whenever, even if it’s only for ten minutes” invitation like it’s a formal catered event.

You started out with pop by if you can, at short notice and on what you yourself admit is a busy day for most people, but it’s turned into “But it’s only two weeks away, we’ve got to organise catering, we neeeeeed to know!!” If you can’t bung an extra tray of mini quiches in the oven when a couple of stragglers turn up, you can’t really manage a casual party at all.

Exactly this

RandomSunday · 11/12/2022 23:45

EverythingWobbles · 11/12/2022 21:22

I really didn't want or ask for an English language lesson 🥱🥱 I'm sure most get the gist of my post without being so precise about my wording. Lord above Mumsnet is not the place it used to be. I'm deleting my account tomorrow. You could post about finding the weather beautiful and bitter women will rip you to shreds on here for any old reason 🤣

OP. There’s no need to cancel your NM registration. For every negative response you’ll have 90 posts agreeing with you.

I very rarely comment on Threads. Those I have recently commented on have been deleted. It’s very annoying!

Noonesperfect · 12/12/2022 00:00

Like a couple of other posts have said, we don't know what might be happening in this friends life at the moment. She might have a relative seriously ill, or something major going on in her life. Just ring her and ask if you want to know. People who say they'd just shut the door in her face! What a lovely gesture at Christmas ! Goodwill to all and all that. Bah Humbug.

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