To think the anyone but England mentality is cringe?

[SolitaryMind]

I’m Scottish, I was brought up to be anti English, SNP mad household, despite having English grandparents. I’ve always thought it made no sense, England is part of the UK like we are. I now have an English dp who is step- parent to my child, I support England in football as does my dc, every match my social media is filled with support for any country playing against England, I don’t get it! Can someone explain the logic to me, I can’t be the only one surely!

The UK media is England centric because most people in the UK are English.

What do you mean by that?

I can’t believe people think the fact we sing ‘its coming home!’ is because we’re sure it will 🤦🏽‍♀️ It’s an English joke, and a bit of patriotic positivity - would others not have positivity for their own home teams? Negativity and bitterness gets you nowhere in life! If they weren’t playing England I’d support other home nations!

It's all a bit tribal

That was a reaction to the Welsh team actively cheering when Iceland beat England. That's the context when Wales were in the knockouts of Euro 2016 and it changes the whole situation there.

The Welsh were engaging in schadenfreude which is not arguable. Anglophobia is more arguable to an extent, but you can't argue there's absolutely none from those actively ABE.

But polls do indicate England has significant levels of support in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. More than any of them have in the other three themselves. 🤷‍♂️

I would really love to see where you got your information that The English Premiership League is more popular in Scotland than the Scottish Premiership?

So the smaller nations don't matter to the media? And that's not the problem?

The uk media is London centric most of the time.

Me too. DH is a die hard Celtic fan. He'll watch any football match but support... nah. True fans support their team through thick and thin

Sorry the post above was meant to include this quote. Can you point me to the proof that more people in Scotland go to English premier league games than the Scottish premiership ?

Yes, I think ignorance is the main issue at play.

Clearly there are a lot of posters who are, at best, casual sports fans with no real concept of a sporting rivalry, and mistake it for hate.

And many of those also seem to think that the ‘Anyone But’ attitude is somehow exclusive to England, because their only exposure to the phenomenon is through English-centric media when England lose.

Would be great to see these polls if you have links to them.

Apart from possibly some unionists in NI, I wouldn't have thought many people in those countries were actively supporting England, but would be interesting to see the stats.

Shocking

Yeah I have no doubt that many people in Scotland follow the English premiership . But to declare that it’s more popular in Scotland than our own leagues. Will be interesting to see how they came up with that and hopefully post their sources.

Ditto. I've read some nonsense on this thread but this is ridiculous.

The media is only concerned about ratings. Most people watching the football matches will be more interested in how the England team are doing than hearing about Wales, Scotland or NI.

The media is London centric but London is the capital city. Not just for English people but to Scottish, Welsh and Northern Ireland people as well.

"Me too. DH is a die hard Celtic fan. He'll watch any football match but support... nah. True fans support their team through thick and thin"

You could be describing my son there. Die hard Celtic fan. He will watch any match, including our local junior team. Watches English premier league and has also been to matches, but his first love is spl.

IMHO English teams aren’t that good, but you wouldn’t know they from the hype they get. They also gloat when they win and sulk win they lose.
therefore, and because I am not English, it’s anyone but England

I’m from NI but have an Irish national identity- Irish Twitter has been a pathetic embarrassment over England crashing out.

I saw a lot of the same attitude when the women got to the final of the euros, which was rich given how the Irish women’s team had to fight tooth and nail for basic supports from their own federation.

It’s interesting, as you see the same sort of thing when it comes to the GAA- memes going around when it gets to the football all Ireland saying “anyone but Dublin”, other counties begrudging their success, again claiming that it’s all to do with their supporters/ player’s attitudes.

’The media is London centric but London is the capital city. Not just for English people but to Scottish, Welsh and Northern Ireland people as well.’

no, Belfast is the capital of NI, Cardiff capital of Wales, and Edinburgh the Scottish capital.
ONLY someone English would come on and state the above without thinking.
THIS is why some many non- English get pissed off at the Englishnand their arrogant attitudes

England fans were enjoying Wales’ footballing failings long before Euro 2016 (which is part of what made that tournament so enjoyable from a Welsh perspective - it was nice not being the butt of the joke for a fleeting moment!)

And yes, I’m sure there’s plain old Anglophobia from some sections of the Welsh fan base, just as certain section of the English fan base are hateful towards Welsh people (see the tweets I posted on the last page, for example).

"The media is only concerned about ratings. Most people watching the football matches will be more interested in how the England team are doing than hearing about Wales, Scotland or NI.

The media is London centric but London is the capital city. Not just for English people but to Scottish, Welsh and Northern Ireland people as well."

Nicely highlighting why there is division between the nations. Not even the nations but completely disregarding the north of England too who often say they feel ignored by the media.

And ignoring it's not about the matches being shown, it's the attitude of the commentators, who will shoehorn England's team into the commentary of any match. It could be a good drinking game, but it would kill me 30 minutes into the first match!

And the other home nations have their own capital cities.

I'm welsh and my family has always been national team supporters, my father and I have been watching wales together through the bleak years before 2016 euros.
We would never support England in a competition, we're welsh.

In the time before we were competing in tournaments we would both constantly get a 'how dare you not support England' attitude and a general sense of entitlement, and that has contributed to it. A some of the players in the English squad at the moment are likeable and do a lot for social issues, I feel sorry for them today, but that's as far as it goes.

A lot of the comments on this thread smell of the same entitlement

Isn't that the very nature of supporting any team? Otherwise you're supporting everyone

Absolute nonsense that the premiership is more popular in Scotland than the SPL. Are you English? This is the type of ignorant comments that cause people in Scotland to not want England to win. Seems so arrogant. I just see it as old fashioned rivalry and a bit of fun. Have been abroad plenty of times and seen English people wanting France and Germany to lose. It wouldn’t bother me if English people supported the other team that Scotland was playing, it’s lighthearted in my experience. What I agree with is how the media and commentators go on and on and I really can’t be bothered watching and hearing about it for years🤷‍♀️

😂😂😂😂

Also maybe the people getting so cross about it should maybe have a think why people feel that way..