To think the anyone but England mentality is cringe?

[SolitaryMind]

I’m Scottish, I was brought up to be anti English, SNP mad household, despite having English grandparents. I’ve always thought it made no sense, England is part of the UK like we are. I now have an English dp who is step- parent to my child, I support England in football as does my dc, every match my social media is filled with support for any country playing against England, I don’t get it! Can someone explain the logic to me, I can’t be the only one surely!

Just the way it was worded - I meant some people seem overtaken with loathing , it seems unhinged to me and not unlike other more unacceptable forms of hate. Imo it shouldn’t be acceptable though

who hates England ? Can you not differentiate between not supporting a football team and an entire country ? Do you hate all of France as you weren’t supporting them yesterday?

I could say that I understand the dislike of some other nations but I'd be on the racism naughty step, it's only acceptable to hate England, especially by the losers.

Allez Maroc!!!

Are the German fans up in arms and shouting "xenophobia" if the Polish don't support them?

Do the Italians take it as a personal insult if the Swiss don't support them?

Does anyone outside the USA ever support their teams?

The entitlement that people from other countries should support you is quite strange, and then taking it oh so personally when they don't. It's called sporting rivalry.

If anyone believes ABE is based purely in football you are blinkered.

I loved how he would turn up on the back seat at Mock the Week and let them take the mickey out of him and his wife mercilessly!

Please educate yourself on your country's history before accusing the Celtic nations of jealousy.

It's the acceptable face of racism on MN.

There's an obvious difference though, isn't there - Germany and Poland aren't 'The United Kingdom of Germany and Poland'.

Yeah I'm very, anyone but England.
But thats because since I was a child I've been hearing the non stop "its coming home" bulshit every few years.

No other team or country do this shit. So it's a natural push back on all of that, for me.

'No other team or country do this shit. So it's a natural push back on all of that, for me.'

^^

Sorry, posted too soon - you've obviously never been in Oz during the Ashes or America's Cup.

Thats simply untrue.

All our family and friends support both.

This is not about England expecting other nations to support them. It's the Anyone but sentiment that is upsetting.

I don't think promoting an

Anyone But <insert country here>

message should ever be seen as acceptable.

Sorry, posted too soon - you've obviously never been in Oz during the Ashes or America's Cup*

I was only talking about football. Not other events I dont watch obviously.

Still the fact remains..I'm "anyone but England" coz its nauseating listening to them harp on about themselves and how victory will be theirs ...but never actually is. 😂

Well said.

And to counteract some of the ignorant comments, rest assured many Scots feel the same way and despair at blatant racism and xenophobia displayed by some idiots (on either side)

I guess you equally get upset when some England fans support anyone who are playing Germany ?

Sure, and can you see how that exacerbates it? UK media is dominated by English media, it's as if the other nations don't exist.

The 2016 Euros, where Wales went further than England, was a great example of that. They deserved to be celebrated for an enormous achievement, but all the media cared about was England getting knocked out.

Yeah, you're probably right that none of the other countries who have anthems supporting their teams make a point of mentioning in them that we haven't won it for decades. 😀

It is certainly and I will call it out when I see it.

That is your opinion. Many people living in Northern Ireland and Scotland do not have a British identity. For some the United Kingdom represents a long history of oppression, exploitation and violence. This does not mean they have a personal problem with English people. But it does mean that England are not owed support.

Yes I 100% do get equally upset of Anyone But Germany. Its not acceptable to have this opinion of any country, regardless of nationality.

It is just divisive. Do we need this sort of language? What does it teach our kids?

Nowhere did I imply that the Germans expect other teams to support them etc etc etc, it was aimed at those who find it surprising that the media coverage in England during an England World Cup run should be focussed on, er, England!
The level of MN comprehension is very poor.

It would be fine it was just shown in England unfortunately it is shown around the whole of the UK not just England .

There's no such thing even as English school holidays, it varies widely across the country and can be a nightmare where there have been boundry changes.