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To think he’s just a cocklodger?

161 replies

TheSunnySide · 06/12/2022 22:51

Lots of debate in previous months about the high profile marriage split of a famous (ish) Welsh actor, who got his big break with a bit part in the Titanic movie. He has spent the last year doing no work, no childcare and just traveling around the world with his new girlfriend who appears to also have no job.

And now he seems to have admitted that his living expenses are being funded by his poor partner who is also battling a challenging life-changing illness.

He's just another cocklodger, isn’t he?

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Perfectpeace · 07/12/2022 20:33

Cheeseandlobster · 07/12/2022 20:26

Exactly. I have seen the vitriolic Instagram posts and tweets from AE which she wrote when she was intoxicated. Vile accusations and name calling about Bianca. Openly admitting to behaviour illustrating she has used their kids as weapons. One video was threatening and quite frankly disturbing. All deleted when she sobered up. Then in the past there were threats of suicide online and her openly saying she hoped their youngest dd did not inherit her fathers nose. She is nasty and probably capable of more nasty behaviour

I think she’s capable of absolutely anything in her quest to destroy Ioan for leaving her. I truly hope those children are removed from her ASAP.

Namechangeagain000 · 07/12/2022 20:38

If the roles were reversed with these two I can absolutely see people rushing to protect her for fear he'd stalk her to the point of murdering her. That is how obsessive and quite frankly worrying the evidence against her in the court documents is. It's why there is a restraining order against her.

Namechangeagain000 · 07/12/2022 20:39

And also why I can't blame him for staying out of the country

Perfectpeace · 07/12/2022 20:40

Vivi0 · 07/12/2022 17:22

I felt the same way, but then I discovered that he went off to France for work, came home with a girlfriend (who his children had never met) and moved her, a stranger, into their home.

He was also recently awarded contact with his children after one year of not seeing them, and he actually cancelled one of the first couple of sessions to go on holiday with his girlfriend to Australia.

That is the actions of a selfish man. There is no getting away from it.

How did you ‘discover’ this pray tell, when it didn’t happen 😂

He fled the family home because of domestic abuse, leaving his belongings behind and rented a flat nearby. As for the meetings with his children, you’ve no idea if/why any of the dates were cancelled as that’s not been made public. You only have Alice’s word that he cancelled and it’s her who has alienated the children for so long.

Perfectpeace · 07/12/2022 20:44

Namechangeagain000 · 07/12/2022 20:38

If the roles were reversed with these two I can absolutely see people rushing to protect her for fear he'd stalk her to the point of murdering her. That is how obsessive and quite frankly worrying the evidence against her in the court documents is. It's why there is a restraining order against her.

It’s terrifying isn’t it? Her only purpose in life now seems to be to destroy him, no matter what. She’s already ruined herself financially as she’s spent all his money and will likely end up having to pay him back some of this from her settlement. She won’t leave that house quietly when it is sold either.

I think she needs to be jailed for her repeated breaches of the DVRO. It’s not worth the paper it’s written on otherwise.

2bazookas · 07/12/2022 20:46

If I had a challenging lifechanging illness and deep pockets, then travelling the world accompanied by my paid escort/gigolo might be just the ticket.

brookln · 07/12/2022 20:50

BruceAndNosh · 07/12/2022 09:33

It's all very well saying "Alice needs to get a job" but no director is going to want someone with her history on their project.
I guess she could get a job at Walmart

And what is wrong working in Walmart? If she needs to support her kids, she needs to support them.

Namechangeagain000 · 07/12/2022 20:51

Living your last few years Travelling the world on the arm of a man just famous enough to give you a decent lifestyle, and handsome and charming enough to make you swoon... You absolutely would, wouldn't you?

Nicknacky · 07/12/2022 20:51

@TheSunnySide You mentioned that it would be understandable is she had hidden money. How do you feel about her telling her followers she us completely broke, having them send her money and even setting up a go fund me?

Does that seem right to you?

Perfectpeace · 07/12/2022 20:51

@Namechangeagain000 sounds like a plan to me 😂

Namechangeagain000 · 07/12/2022 20:52

brookln · 07/12/2022 20:50

And what is wrong working in Walmart? If she needs to support her kids, she needs to support them.

Lots of actors have done it. If you do a "where are they now" many have gone into obscurity and living life doing normal jobs.

Namechangeagain000 · 07/12/2022 20:53

Perfectpeace · 07/12/2022 20:51

@Namechangeagain000 sounds like a plan to me 😂

It's how I want to live my last year's now I've written that down 😂

Vivi0 · 07/12/2022 20:53

Perfectpeace · 07/12/2022 20:40

How did you ‘discover’ this pray tell, when it didn’t happen 😂

He fled the family home because of domestic abuse, leaving his belongings behind and rented a flat nearby. As for the meetings with his children, you’ve no idea if/why any of the dates were cancelled as that’s not been made public. You only have Alice’s word that he cancelled and it’s her who has alienated the children for so long.

Yes, it’s really funny, isn’t it. Funny how you have repeatedly mentioned the court documents, but seem only to remember the parts that suit you.

It did happen, he says himself in the court documents say they’ve been living together since his return from France.

Again, in the court documents, contact was scheduled to begin on X date, and after one contact sesssion, he is in Australia visiting his girlfriend’s family on what should have been his contact date with the girls.

Since he can’t be in Australia and LA at the same, it’s safe to assume he cancelled contact that week, unless you think he just didn’t bother showing up?

Vivi0 · 07/12/2022 20:55

brookln · 07/12/2022 20:50

And what is wrong working in Walmart? If she needs to support her kids, she needs to support them.

I guess the same would apply to Ioan then, since he is having such trouble finding a job that his girlfriend is paying his living expenses.

Namechangeagain000 · 07/12/2022 20:56

Vivi0 · 07/12/2022 20:55

I guess the same would apply to Ioan then, since he is having such trouble finding a job that his girlfriend is paying his living expenses.

Looking at his Instagram just now he's had a fair bit of work he's been promoting lately

Sunshinegirl82 · 07/12/2022 21:00

I'd agree that they both need to consider other types of work if acting is not earning a sufficient amount to live on. That said, even if they both got full time work in Walmart or similar tomorrow they still won't be able to afford to pay for the house and it needs to be sold.

Alice has lots of skills she could utilise, she's well educated and speaks more than one language. I'm sure there are lots of things she could turn her hand to.

rwalker · 07/12/2022 21:04

Some people are seriously over invested in people they don’t know
all there assumptions from info in the press that may or may not be true and no doubt sensationalise
Christ do people have no lives

Vivi0 · 07/12/2022 21:06

Namechangeagain000 · 07/12/2022 20:56

Looking at his Instagram just now he's had a fair bit of work he's been promoting lately

From his recent court submission to sell the family home, he states he had one paid job at the beginning of this year, has had nothing since, has nothing currently and no contracts signed for in the future. So, he has been out of work for coming up to one year.

If Walmart is good enough for Alice, it is good enough for Ioan.

Namechangeagain000 · 07/12/2022 21:07

Vivi0 · 07/12/2022 21:06

From his recent court submission to sell the family home, he states he had one paid job at the beginning of this year, has had nothing since, has nothing currently and no contracts signed for in the future. So, he has been out of work for coming up to one year.

If Walmart is good enough for Alice, it is good enough for Ioan.

Absolutely. You do what you can to pay the bills.

BuckarooBanzai · 07/12/2022 21:08

Alice has been shit upon from a great height. I totally get it but she seriously needs to move on. Build as much stability as she can for the girls. Start a new life in which she might find more happiness than her old one. IG is just a man he's not worth your sanity over.

Perfectpeace · 07/12/2022 21:32

Vivi0 · 07/12/2022 20:53

Yes, it’s really funny, isn’t it. Funny how you have repeatedly mentioned the court documents, but seem only to remember the parts that suit you.

It did happen, he says himself in the court documents say they’ve been living together since his return from France.

Again, in the court documents, contact was scheduled to begin on X date, and after one contact sesssion, he is in Australia visiting his girlfriend’s family on what should have been his contact date with the girls.

Since he can’t be in Australia and LA at the same, it’s safe to assume he cancelled contact that week, unless you think he just didn’t bother showing up?

No, you said he moved his girlfriend into the family home. He absolutely didn’t - you’re lying. You also said he cancelled his visitation with his children so he could go to Australia - prove it. As nowhere in the documents does it say this. Visitation may have not happened but you’ve no idea why.

whumpthereitis · 07/12/2022 21:40

BuckarooBanzai · 07/12/2022 21:08

Alice has been shit upon from a great height. I totally get it but she seriously needs to move on. Build as much stability as she can for the girls. Start a new life in which she might find more happiness than her old one. IG is just a man he's not worth your sanity over.

Not sure that she has tbh. The most reliable of narrators she is not.

Vivi0 · 07/12/2022 21:41

Perfectpeace · 07/12/2022 21:32

No, you said he moved his girlfriend into the family home. He absolutely didn’t - you’re lying. You also said he cancelled his visitation with his children so he could go to Australia - prove it. As nowhere in the documents does it say this. Visitation may have not happened but you’ve no idea why.

I’m lying?

I said:

I felt the same way, but then I discovered that he went off to France for work, came home with a girlfriend (who his children had never met) and moved her, a stranger, into their home.

I didn’t say the family home, I said “their home”, you know, the one they share with their father during his visitation time.

I don’t need to prove anything - he was court ordered to have contact on X date, but was in Australia instead. In the absence of any orders amending or pushing back the commencement of contact for any reason, visitation was clearly cancelled that weekend.

Visitation may have not happened but you’ve no idea why

Visitation “may have not happened”? It 100% did NOT happen because he was in Australia!

Perfectpeace · 07/12/2022 22:31

Vivi0 · 07/12/2022 21:41

I’m lying?

I said:

I felt the same way, but then I discovered that he went off to France for work, came home with a girlfriend (who his children had never met) and moved her, a stranger, into their home.

I didn’t say the family home, I said “their home”, you know, the one they share with their father during his visitation time.

I don’t need to prove anything - he was court ordered to have contact on X date, but was in Australia instead. In the absence of any orders amending or pushing back the commencement of contact for any reason, visitation was clearly cancelled that weekend.

Visitation may have not happened but you’ve no idea why

Visitation “may have not happened”? It 100% did NOT happen because he was in Australia!

It’s not their home, it’s his home. For someone so knowledgeable you don’t seem to remember that their ‘mother’ has alienated them from him since he has the audacity to leave her. You’ve no idea that they had any visits planned when he was in Australia, nor why they may have been cancelled. Those children are having to undergo reunification therapy because of the damage Alice has inflicted on them. This isn’t your standard ‘visit dad at the weekend’ setup. They don’t have regular visits or overnight stays, because their ‘mother’ prevents it.

If you have really read all the available documents and you still blame Ioan then I think you are as bad as Alice and I pray you never fall victim to an abusive narcissist.

TheSunnySide · 07/12/2022 22:37

No. It is their home, which he chose to leave. They are their kids, whom he chose to leave in the care of someone he claims is abusive towards them.

Californian law expects BOTH partners to support themselves so Ioan Gruffudd should also be looking for work iWalmart if he really can’t find work as an actor.

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