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Racism in the Royal Family

593 replies

StoneofDestiny · 30/11/2022 19:06

Susan Hussey has resigned. Philip was coming out with similar comments in public all his life, yet there was no move to get rid of him. AIBU to think this is more royal hypocrisy?

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HRTQueen · 01/12/2022 00:09

Well the palace investigated immediately to establish full details and found the remarks to be unacceptable. The individual (LSH) wishes to apologise and stepped down

what more do you want ? Is that not enough

Whydoicare88 · 01/12/2022 00:10

antelopevalley · 30/11/2022 23:53

I am sadly not surprised at the racism on this thread. But when I see the comments that are still standing on the thread it does make me thing that what was deleted must have been really blatant.

Some of the deleted comments were from people calling out racism.

heartbroken22 · 01/12/2022 00:11

Have you seen Camilla touching a young black child's hand and behaving like she caught germs on her hands? Or the one where she holds the girls sleeve instead of her hand. Royal family are a disgrace.

m00rfarm · 01/12/2022 00:11

Lunar270 · 01/12/2022 00:05

And now you're playing stupid. That's 2/3. One more and I'll call bingo!

I’ve no idea what you’re talking about. So far you’ve called me “playing stupid” and naive. And not sure if you’ve also called me racist. May not be you who said that. I’m on my phone and can’t get back up the thread to see everything. So by all means “call bingo” if you think that’s getting your point across to someone who was willing to listen to what you had to say. Well done you.

Lunar270 · 01/12/2022 00:13

Mayorquimby2 · 01/12/2022 00:05

Racist woman hires racist staff who then inevitably does something racist.

Then their racist supporters come out to justify it.

Buuut the royal family do so much good for the country 😂

In a nutshell!

Someone a few pages back said that the RF was founded on racism with the empire and it's so true. Even in the queen's lifetime, England was part of some horrific things.

TooBigForMyBoots · 01/12/2022 00:14

CloverCoolCalm · 01/12/2022 00:02

And what was in it for them to do so ? And why decide to be so public about it.

Ive had people be rude to me, but I don’t run to the newspapers.. I have no agenda of course

So it's a Conspiracy? Tell me more.😂😂😂

cypresstree · 01/12/2022 00:21

did she then leave the party?

Coyoacan · 01/12/2022 00:22

@Hills2022

Can you just for one second imagine what it must be like to be born and bred in a country and yet be constantly treated as if you've just arrived?

DutchessOfMuck · 01/12/2022 00:25

cypresstree · 01/12/2022 00:21

did she then leave the party?

No she stayed then tweeted the conversation.

viques · 01/12/2022 00:25

Snoozer11 · 30/11/2022 19:43

Yes but if you had a heavy Eastern European accent you'd probably be asked.

And it's not unreasonable to be asked "have you come far".

I have a regional accent and even I'm asked "whereabouts" I'm from.

Ngozi Fulani has a bog standard London accent.

TheShellBeach · 01/12/2022 00:26

ditherydotty · 30/11/2022 20:35

My comment was deleted which goes to show how white voices are being silenced.

Wow.

Suboptimalsitch · 01/12/2022 00:33

When your life, your family, your work, your friends, your home is in the UK and you happen to have an accent or be a POC, it won't just be @cakeorwine asking 'where are you from' to satisfy her curiosity' but person after person, sometimes several in a day! Can you really not understand that while we are buys working, rushing around and managing life, we don't want to be stopped in our tracks to explain where our grandmothers, grandfathers or parents are from, where we were born and why we are where we are?We are just getting on with our life and if we feel like telling you we will, please don't ask, it's presumptuous. Ask stuff that is actually relevant to make connections

Exactly this. Everyone has the right to get through their day without having to explain themselves in this way. No one should be having to constantly field remarks and comments about their heritage, sexuality, disability or anything else that is no one else’s business, whenever they leave the house. If anyone asks me where I ‘really’ come from I’d have no idea. .

Susan Hussey is from a different generation but times have moved on since this sort of shit was tolerated. If she doesn’t know what is acceptable or polite to ask then she shouldn’t be representing the royals. If she didn’t have enough insight to notice or care the line of questioning she was going down sounded interrogatory, offensive, rude and over insistent at best, why are, Charles and Camilla inviting her to represent them?

Changechangychange · 01/12/2022 00:55

XingMing · 30/11/2022 21:30

I'm white so unlikely to be asked this question, but I would like to ask, without prejudice, how any white person politely asks a POC where their family originated without the question being regarded as racist? I would genuinely like to know. For the record, I live in the Celtic fringe.

You ask “where do your family originate from?” Or “what is your ethnic background”.

But just as you presumably wouldn’t march up to a stranger and ask “hello, are you gay?” as an opening question, it isn’t polite to approach strangers and start interrogating them about their heritage. It’s something you can ask when you get to know them, if it doesn’t come up in conversation naturally.

You really don’t need to know if somebody at a charity function, who you will likely never meet again, has Nigerian parents or Ghanaian parents.

TheShellBeach · 01/12/2022 01:02

"I say: You mean why am I black?"

That is basically what Lady S meant by her line up of questioning & to suggest otherwise is just ignorance.

Thank you. That is the whole thing, in a nutshell. That is exactly what Lady Susan meant by her questions. That is ALL Lady Susan meant. It was racist and abhorrent.

Jammy62 · 01/12/2022 01:22

I ask people with different skin colour from me or a different accent where they are from a lot. Im genuinely interested when people tell me about different ways of life and culture.

Changechangychange · 01/12/2022 01:32

Jammy62 · 01/12/2022 01:22

I ask people with different skin colour from me or a different accent where they are from a lot. Im genuinely interested when people tell me about different ways of life and culture.

What “different way of life” do you think somebody from Hackney has? Confused

Justasec321 · 01/12/2022 02:55

Winterscomingagain · 30/11/2022 19:12

I think an old lady asked questions she'd have been better advised not to.

You could argue that society is unpicking the racisim of that age group now.....

Lightowl · 01/12/2022 05:19

@Changechangychange What “different way of life” do you think somebody from Hackney has?

She chose to wear traditional dress to reflect her culture, safe to say the origins of it do not lie in Hackney. If you don’t want to be asked about it then why advertise it? I’d put money on Sarah Hussey not having asked that question if she was in a suit.

Lunar270 · 01/12/2022 07:13

Lightowl · 01/12/2022 05:19

@Changechangychange What “different way of life” do you think somebody from Hackney has?

She chose to wear traditional dress to reflect her culture, safe to say the origins of it do not lie in Hackney. If you don’t want to be asked about it then why advertise it? I’d put money on Sarah Hussey not having asked that question if she was in a suit.

That's some mental gymnastics there 😂

Blaming a woman for her choice of clothing is an interesting one. It sounds eerily similar so some archaic arguments that women deserve how people interact with them, simply because of their choice of attire.

Lightowl · 01/12/2022 07:28

@Lunar270
*That's some mental gymnastics there 😂

Blaming a woman for her choice of clothing is an interesting one. It sounds eerily similar so some archaic arguments that women deserve how people interact with them, simply because of their choice of attire*

Have you seen this lady’s previous SM posts? In one she actually says that Meghan is a victim of DV from the RF. She knew exactly what she was doing.

DriftwoodOnTheShore · 01/12/2022 07:29

My father, long gone now sadly, nearly always asked new introductions where they were from. This was a hangover from army days when new people joining the regiment were greeted. It was just small talk. It really isn't racist to ask where someone is from.

It is racist to persist in questioning and not accepting the answer. Especially if talking to a person of colour.

Televivi · 01/12/2022 07:38

@Jammy62

I ask people with different skin colour from me or a different accent where they are from a lot. Im genuinely interested when people tell me about different ways of life and culture.

You are othering them and now that you know that many don't wish to be asked these questions by strangers or semi strangers, will you be considerate enough to stop it? I hope so. We are not here to satisfy your curiosity about different cultures. Seriously

SerendipityJane · 01/12/2022 07:49

I'm sure Wills and Kate will be delighted to have this the focus of discussion with US journalists today.

Lunar270 · 01/12/2022 07:51

Lightowl · 01/12/2022 07:28

@Lunar270
*That's some mental gymnastics there 😂

Blaming a woman for her choice of clothing is an interesting one. It sounds eerily similar so some archaic arguments that women deserve how people interact with them, simply because of their choice of attire*

Have you seen this lady’s previous SM posts? In one she actually says that Meghan is a victim of DV from the RF. She knew exactly what she was doing.

What's that got to do with the price of cheese?

SerendipityJane · 01/12/2022 07:51

But still the racists bang on about it not being racism. Its quite interesting to see the lengths they'll go to before they'll believe that a black woman was subject to racism from a white woman.

Brexit hasn't failed.

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