Racism in the Royal Family

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Susan Hussey has resigned. Philip was coming out with similar comments in public all his life, yet there was no move to get rid of him. AIBU to think this is more royal hypocrisy?

The statement from the Prince of Wales is certainly showing his feelings on the matter.

Sorry but you are plain wrong. I'm black British. I was born here. If people ask where I'm from, I tell them London. That should be the end of it. Black people are not obligated to answer lines of questioning about heritage at whim.

This.

No. I don’t. I’m just not understanding how the conversation got to this level of racism without it being stopped.

I’m not. That was not my intention. I’m querying what has been reported in the news. It sounded a strange exchange. As though they were playing the game where you answer the question before the one being asked.

I did.

If that's true, then your question to me makes no sense, @Hills2022 , since you were effectively questioning whether there were in fact racists posts on here.

Saying "hackney" is really standoffish and defensive.

Say what? Why, FGS, if it happens to be the truth? The woman in question was British.

And if she was defensive, as events transpired she had good cause, didn't she?

How many white people do you ask where they're from?

She is from Hackney though. Why is that standoffish? And how was she wearing cultural garment?

Yes. I see your point.

No I wasn't. Please don't fabricate things.

The victim blaming is strong here, what a surprise.

Interesting that racist posts are allowed to stand, but posts calling out the racism are deleted.

Cultural garment?

'Cultural garment'

This was a meeting to raise awareness of charities with the common aim of combating global violence against women.

It was not London Fashion Week. The women delegates shouldn't have been defined by the clothing they chose to wear.

Hackney is where the charity, Sistah Space - that Ngozi was there to talk about and promote - is based. It was a perfectly reasonable answer; it is Susan Hussey's agenda that was out of line, not Ngozi Fulani's responses.

Given the posts deleted tend to be the ones people are mostly reporting, this alone is revealing. Racists reserve the right to spout their racism; they don't necessarily like being challenged or having attention drawn to the fact.

You don't ask @WimpoleHat .

You make conversation about what is relevant to the situation you are both finding yourself in. You don't dig to find out where a POC or a person with a foreign accent was born, where their parents were born. Most likely they were born here, maybe their parents were born here or arrived as children, or if they are a first generation immigrant, they might have had complex reasons to leave their native country or simply have made a home here in the UK for decades and that's where they are now they're 'from'. It's not like you're in a holiday and ask fellow tourists which part of England they're from.

'Where are you from' is a loaded and intrusive question in a multicultural society. Why? Because you are hinting that they are not one of us based on how they look or speak.

“If you dress like that, what do you expect?”

Fuck sake.

This thread does make for depressing reading.

I have asked people where they are from - purely as it's a way to connect to people and I have lived in a lot of places in the UK so often I have lived in the places people are from. I had a Teams meeting a while ago with someone who was helping me set up some new IT stuff. It was going to be a long call so we were chatting first. I did ask him where he was from - he was black but I didn't realise till later when he emailed me. Turned out he was from London and I part that I used to live in so we had a chat about that. When I saw his email avatar, I asked myself if I should have asked thar question - but it's a question I sometimes ask / get asked in conversation.

But it's not acceptable to just keep asking about 'where do your people come from?"

Christ Almighty, woman, you're on Mumsnet. A UK based site, a country where 86% of the population is white - how many bloody white voices do you think are on this site?

Now, Stupid Racist Voices being silenced - that would be nice.

It’s actually hilarious how many people are committed to defending this behaviour when Buckingham palace themselves have apologised.

Lady Hussey is from a blinkered generation who's roots lie in the 'no Irish, no coloureds, no unmarried mothers' bigotry..
My step grandfather was the same (oh the rows)
Thank god time has moved on!!
However, it doesnt necessarily mean the entire Royal family are rascists, she's just a very very stupid old woman, who has hopefully learnt a massive lesson at the tender age of 83!

'Where are you from' is a loaded and intrusive question in a multicultural society. Why? Because you are hinting that they are not one of us based on how they look or speak

Couldn't it also just be a question to see what brought them to your 'neck of the woods'? I think it's an unusual question if you aren't carrying on a relationship - but say you were a work colleague or developing a friendship, finding out a bit more about someone, and telling them a bit more about you all helps. A way of building a relationship, making connections?

A number of people witnessed the conversation and called it "Offensive and racist".
What do you mean reported from one side only?
The Palace investigated and called the remarks unacceptable and deeply regrettable adding Racism has no place in our society.
Lady SH has apologised.

But still the racists bang on about it not being racism. Its quite interesting to see the lengths they'll go to before they'll believe that a black woman was subject to racism from a white woman.🤯

When you consider that she had been working for the Queen for years, it's obvious there was/is a racist culture that was presided over for a long time, which is no surprise given the Queen wouldn't employ non white people until the late 60s and then tried to exempt herself from discrimination laws. Nor did she ever speak out about racism or her family's colonial past, she left it to others...and she married an overt racist