Racism in the Royal Family

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Susan Hussey has resigned. Philip was coming out with similar comments in public all his life, yet there was no move to get rid of him. AIBU to think this is more royal hypocrisy?

Why do you want that information from a stranger? Why do you feel a stranger owes you that information?

oh for the love of god, read the thread back 🤦‍♀️

Comments don't come more ignorant than Snoozer11.

Talk about setting a new low bar.

Comments don't come more ignorant than Snoozer11.

Talk about setting a new low bar.

She is a hanger on not a member of the Royal family why are they blamed for shit they DIDNT do

Harry was racist
Philip was racist
This is obviously a problem they can be blamed for

Hanger on? Seriously not their fault

She is a hanger on not a member of the Royal family why are they blamed for shit they DIDNT do

She's a palace representative, so yes it's on them

I'm aghast at the comments on here...

I can't say too much as it would out me but I know someone who went to the evident and heard the conversation in the distance.

I also work in the VAWG sector in public affairs and some of the questions on here....

sistah space is necessary because black and other poc have different needs often womens aid can't tackle having 'led by and for' is life saving and research from the domestic abuse commissioner backs this up read this report domesticabusecommissioner.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/DAC-Mapping-Briefing-Paper-05.pdf

so yes it's important these spaces exist. Also it was very much racist and coincidentally she's the same person who had to show Meghan the ropes....

Mumsnet has always been a place for robust discussion and I’m completely comfortable with that.

Bur to find myself on a thread with people whose views are overtly racist and who denigrate a woman for speaking up about a painful and humiliating experience is not something I ever expected.

It is shameful.

WHY

WHY DO YOU NEED TO KNOW

You must be extremely disappointed that a big event put on to raise the profile of and focus on VAWG has been completely overshadowed by a furore started on twitter. Such a missed opportunity

Ngozi Fulani was invited to the palace as a VIP in recognition of her services to women. There are some horrifying statistics about black women’s experience of abuse on her charity’s homepage. Their services to help women seem well considered and thoughtful.

If you were scheduled to meet Ngozi, would it not be a privilege to meet someone who had done so much for her community? Even if her charity isn’t your bag, surely it would be polite to at least do a little research and come up with a simple question or two?

The palace is supposed to about etiquete and protocol. Everyone visiting has security vetting in advance. Susan Hussey would have been able to find out exactly who she was meeting and which organisation was being represented.

It can be ok to ask about someone’s heritage but context is everything. Being inappropriately personal, invading personal space and be persistent with questioning origins in a racist manner is not ok. The palace’s response to the incident makes it clear they understand what an embarrassing breach this is.

She resigned - or was asked for her resignation - before the thing even trended on Twitter.

Hussey hasn't made any attempt to deny her behaviour, which would have been pointless considering her aggressive questioning was apparently overheard by others who were within earshot. Plenty of people find racism distasteful; they don't all congregate on Twitter.

Why do you need to know anything about people, you don't need to know if people have siblings, you don't need to know if people like football, you don't need to know any personal information about anyone, but sharing information and being interested in other people is pretty much how human relationships are formed.

You should definitely report any overtly racist posts

Palace representative NOT Royal family like the thread title states

VAWG is very often overshadowed, as everyone who's ever campaigned against it will be all-too painfully aware. Women's dignity and safety unfortunately comes second to a great many things. The women of Scotland are finding that out in very painful terms only this week.

It's quite disgusting to see this cause sidelined for yet more controversy over the Windsors' institutional racism. And no, the woman is not 'family', but given she was the late QEII's closest confidante for around 6 decades and happens to be William's godmother, it doesn't let them off the hook that easily.

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

im mixed. My mother was white (French). She absolutely never knew or understood how tiring these questions were. She, on the other hand, absolutely delighted in people asking her where her husband (our father) was from, enjoyed wearing “ethnic clothes” and loved being ohhh so different.

It’s nice to be different when you’ve fitted in. in my case, Im from nowhere, other than the uk. I can’t claim to be French, or Indian.

that all said, if the questions come from a place of equality it’s fine — oh where are you from, this is where I’m from, etc. it’s draining to be asked by total strangers/newly met folk. People with very unusual/weird names may relate to this. You have to spell the name each time, every single time. Difference is, with skin colour, you have to tell a whole origin story, and it’s a fraught situation since you just KNOW there are people who despise you, or look down on, or don’t accept you as a fellow citizen of the only country you know, you BECAUSE of your skin colour.

As you obviously know, there is no cut off age for racism.

There is however, most likely to be a cut off range, above which some people do not realise that what they are saying is racist.

It is possible that Susan was not trying to be hateful and racist, and her age does make this more possible. I can just imagine my MIL or FIL having said this kind of thing in a friendly manner (they would be at least as old as Susan if they were not now both dead) and being totally unaware that it would be a racist thing to have said.

As I said before, it is also possible that she is an arrogant racist bully. We really don't have any way of knowing.

The minute I heard this story I made the connection with Meghan Markle, and I was right. This particular person was not only tasked with 'helping' MM 'acclimatise' to life in the royal family but is supposed to have declared that the marriage 'would end in tears'.

Her behaviour was abhorrent and probably as much of a last straw as anything.

Why did Hussey not have anything to add, at all, to any of Fulani’s answers? Even when Hussey got the info she wanted, she wanted it for no reason - no interest in Fulani’s heritage at all. She pushed that Fulani was not British, even having been told she was. Hussey was not interested, not in any of the answers. And her approach and what she said was racist. Buckingham Palace has said it was unacceptable. Not sure why you’re defending her. She hasn’t denied it herself.

But not at a reception where someone has been invited due to their charity work and they've told you they are from the UK.

I’m so sorry you are asked this question constantly. And that some people on this thread are being so Ignorant.

I am white so I know I do not truly understand, so I have made it my business to read and to understand as best I can.

Funny isn't it, they couldn't silence the member of public.

As a black woman born in the UK, I’ve been asked questions like this my whole life.
I’m sick of it and brown people shouldn’t have to explain or justify their heritage.

People ask: Where are you from?
I say: london/UK

(This is where the question should stop).

They then say: no where are your parents from?
I say: London/UK as both were born here.
They then say: no you know what I mean where are you really from?

I used to go into my background but I don’t anymore as don’t need to as am British have answered that and now
I say: You mean why am I black?

That is basically what Lady S meant by her line up of questioning & to suggest otherwise is just ignorance.

I have been asked in a rural place (not England) who my people are, I never ever take offence to it, they are curious and interested. Wouldn't even cross my mind there was any discrimination.