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Things in RECENT times you can’t quite believe we’re seen as ‘ok’

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LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 30/11/2022 17:45

The Jeremy Kyle Show. Middle class man shouts at poor people who aren’t terribly bright, for not being perfect humans. So pleased it ended.

On X Factor and BGT when they used to show ‘funny’ auditions of people who believed they had talent but really didn’t so got laughed at. They then brought them back for the final to do a humiliating routine live so they could be laughed at more.

Supernanny. Childless woman who can barely speak properly pulls lemon faces, tells parents they’re shit and Instills sudden and sharp changes in the child’s home where actual camera are focussing on them when they’re distraught and upset

Sun sea and suspicious parents. Mum and dad spying on their adult children from a rooftop in Greece whilst said child gets off with a stranger. CREEPY!

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CruCru · 02/12/2022 18:20

We used to have a thing where the senior men would bring the children in on Christmas Eve (so their wives could get the house ready for Christmas) and then find a female colleague to look after them. It always created an awkward moment because I would say no (because I was in as I actually had some work to do).

The women would be asked to buy new baby presents too. Regardless of whether they had children.

Solonge · 02/12/2022 19:27

Doris86 · 02/12/2022 17:40

Indeed I think 99% of the population would agree with you. Unfortunately it’s often the 1% who shout the loudest.

Well around 1% of people in the UK are actually transgender....so if they are the ones shouting loudest...then I would think its ok.

Solonge · 02/12/2022 19:30

TortugaRumCakeQueen · 02/12/2022 09:04

This was NOT normal. I was driving in the 80's, and so were all of my mates - NO ONE did so without a licence, NO ONE.

My brother also drove for nearly ten years without a licence... it wasnt normal, but it happened more than people realised. Also we had all the people, usually women who were trained during WWII to drive ambulances, tractors etc....they never took a legal test but they were driving on our roads, thousands of them, until they died out.

Solonge · 02/12/2022 19:36

Weddings where no children can be present...Bridezilla makes all the bridesmaids do her bidding for months...they are arent allowed to put on weight or cut their hair and an unnatural expectation of the wedding day and the rest of their married life!!!! Kids are part of life....families and weddings go together...banning kids??? bossing bridesmaids. Truly it was better when the wedding was cheap....held in a barn...with a live band...everyone danced including the kids....and no one cared if a baby cried...and the Bride was just grateful that she had such fabulous friends who wanted to be her bridesmaids no matter how thin or fat they were or how they wore their hair.

HotChoxs · 02/12/2022 19:39

Jimmy Saville & Bill Cosby

What2do22 · 02/12/2022 19:41

011899988I9991197253 · 30/11/2022 17:51

Dressing up in woman-face for entertainment.

What a disgusting thing to say

genius1308 · 02/12/2022 19:41

AutumnColour89 · 02/12/2022 10:27

Totally agree.

There's a few disparaging comments from people claiming to have XYZ 'childcare qualifications' disagreeing with Suppernanny's methods- conveniently ignoring the fact that the results clearly spoke for themselves!

Calm, contented children and much happier home lives for the whole family. I know who I'd be going to for advice if I was a frazzled parent.

And for those saying the kids were being 'expoilted'- isn't it far more cruel to allow children to grow up in to potentially unruly teens and beyond without addressing clear behavioural issues, causing them major disadvantage? Not to mention the misery it would be causing to parents, siblings and classmates in the meantime.

I do worry we now live in a world that values 'qualifications' and certificates more than experience and common sense.

Just because , short term, for a tv program, something seems to 'work' doesn't make it right. We could go back to beating children when they misbehave, no doubt they would then stop becoming 'unruly teens', doesn't mean it's right though does it?

What2do22 · 02/12/2022 19:43

What’s damaging about it??

Solonge · 02/12/2022 19:43

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 02/12/2022 14:20

  1. It's not actually injected into the vein.
  1. I'm pretty sure I would be dead or long term disabled without it, so I'm incredibly grateful for my 'experimental soup'.

Yep....being a nurse dealing with loons who make comments about 5G being injected into their veins so the government can watch them. Frankly as medics and nurses we trained to vaccinate people...keep people safe...thank God we didnt have this shit to deal with during the fifties when we were vaccinating against polio...because half the people on here wouldnt have existed.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 02/12/2022 19:47

Solonge · 02/12/2022 19:36

Weddings where no children can be present...Bridezilla makes all the bridesmaids do her bidding for months...they are arent allowed to put on weight or cut their hair and an unnatural expectation of the wedding day and the rest of their married life!!!! Kids are part of life....families and weddings go together...banning kids??? bossing bridesmaids. Truly it was better when the wedding was cheap....held in a barn...with a live band...everyone danced including the kids....and no one cared if a baby cried...and the Bride was just grateful that she had such fabulous friends who wanted to be her bridesmaids no matter how thin or fat they were or how they wore their hair.

Back in the days where my parents got married int he lay 70’s, weddings were paid for by the bride’s father, who would invite his friends and maybe some colleagues/clients, and the B&G could have a few friends at the night do. Bridesmaid were small children. Whilst it was probably a nod to ‘ownership’ of a man’s DD, I do think it must have been far more pleasant to just attend a wedding and not spend more on someone else’s (potentially short lived) life choice. The last wedding DH and I attended we spent £1000 on the hen/stag do’s, outfits, hotels, presents and things like drinks on the day. Ludicrous!

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LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 02/12/2022 19:48

What2do22 · 02/12/2022 19:41

What a disgusting thing to say

@What2do22 why is it disgusting??

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LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 02/12/2022 19:51

Solonge · 02/12/2022 19:43

Yep....being a nurse dealing with loons who make comments about 5G being injected into their veins so the government can watch them. Frankly as medics and nurses we trained to vaccinate people...keep people safe...thank God we didnt have this shit to deal with during the fifties when we were vaccinating against polio...because half the people on here wouldnt have existed.

I’d like to add this to the list of bonkers things - anti-vaxxers. I am, above all, pro choice and think vaccines should be a choice. But these people spread nonsense and hate and that in turn isn’t allowing people to have an informed choice

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What2do22 · 02/12/2022 19:55

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 02/12/2022 19:48

@What2do22 why is it disgusting??

I assumed the poster was referring to drag queens, men dressing up as women for entertainment, is something that should not be acceptable.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 02/12/2022 19:57

What2do22 · 02/12/2022 19:55

I assumed the poster was referring to drag queens, men dressing up as women for entertainment, is something that should not be acceptable.

Yea they were. And it IS woman face. It’s an oppressive class dressing up as an oppressed class and mocking them using exaggerated stereotypes and sexualised names. That’s what’s disgusting and I can’t believe how popular this trend is

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What2do22 · 02/12/2022 20:02

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 02/12/2022 19:57

Yea they were. And it IS woman face. It’s an oppressive class dressing up as an oppressed class and mocking them using exaggerated stereotypes and sexualised names. That’s what’s disgusting and I can’t believe how popular this trend is

Wow. It’s entertainment, not harming anybody and if you don’t enjoy it you’re free to turn away, no where near not being acceptable. I’d say the man is opening himself up to a lot more oppression/hate than if he went on living his life as a man, especially if he’s an openly queer black man.

ihatewinter2 · 02/12/2022 20:26

Ohuhu · 30/11/2022 20:52

The Imprisonment for Public Protection (IPP) sentence, brought in in 2005 in the UK, which lead to people being given what amounted to life sentences for 150 offences including relatively minor crimes such as criminal damage, with no guarantee they would ever be released from prison. 8000+ people, including hundreds of children aged 10-17, were given IPP sentences. There are numerous cases of people on tariffs of less than a year serving decades in prison on IPPs. Once released, they remain on license for at least 10 years, potentially for life, where they can be recalled into prison at any time for breaking license conditions.

The sentence was recognised as manifestly unjust and was abolished 2012, but not for those who were already serving it. 10 years later over 2500 people are still in prison on IPPs. 74 have committed suicide.

I can't believe that this was ever seen as OK, that still nothing has been done about it while the suicide count continues to rise, and I can't believe that so many people today are happy to turn a blind eye to the appalling, inhumane conditions of so many of the UK's prisons.

I know someone who was sentenced to an IPP sentence. He served 14 years for what was originally an 18 month sentence. He ended up a serious self harmer, lost contact with his children and tbh I'm surprised he didn't ever actually kill himself. He made some serious attempts. It's insane how it was allowed to happen.

JustLyra · 02/12/2022 20:36

What2do22 · 02/12/2022 20:02

Wow. It’s entertainment, not harming anybody and if you don’t enjoy it you’re free to turn away, no where near not being acceptable. I’d say the man is opening himself up to a lot more oppression/hate than if he went on living his life as a man, especially if he’s an openly queer black man.

With things like Drag Queen Story Hour the "not harming anybody" is very dubious tbh. It's got to a point of being completely unacceptable.

euronorris · 02/12/2022 20:40

One of them recently revealed that they were tasked with reading the DMs and reporting the vile ones themselves once they were 12. Bloody awful.

Who knows about the money, but it's poor compensation for losing your childhood and probably the relationship with your parents too.

What2do22 · 02/12/2022 20:43

JustLyra · 02/12/2022 20:36

With things like Drag Queen Story Hour the "not harming anybody" is very dubious tbh. It's got to a point of being completely unacceptable.

Please explain how it harms children.

Terven · 02/12/2022 20:48

Using no bra at all! I was almost thirty years old before I ever owned one!

XenoBitch · 02/12/2022 20:52

I have enjoyed drag queens at things like stripper nights and hen dos. They seem to have a place in entertainment there. Lets admit it, the bar is set very low at such events anyway.
I have no idea why they are now in schools.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 02/12/2022 21:26

Wow. It’s entertainment, not harming anybody and if you don’t enjoy it you’re free to turn away

You could say the same about blackface right?

It’s harming women. Perpetuating harmful stereotypes to an oppressed class harms that class of people

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LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 02/12/2022 21:31

What2do22 · 02/12/2022 20:43

Please explain how it harms children.

Overly sexualised men with sexualised names dressed as caricatures of the class they oppress is pretty harmful.

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IndiaRose22 · 02/12/2022 21:43

Animal testing

What2do22 · 02/12/2022 21:49

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 02/12/2022 21:31

Overly sexualised men with sexualised names dressed as caricatures of the class they oppress is pretty harmful.

I’ve not seen one queen dressed sexually with a sexualised name participate in story hour. in fact many of them have funny names: Bagga chips, Patty O’doors, Hedda Lettuce etc. What do you think happens at these events? I think your imagination is far different to the reality.