Things in RECENT times you can’t quite believe we’re seen as ‘ok’

[LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet]

The Jeremy Kyle Show. Middle class man shouts at poor people who aren’t terribly bright, for not being perfect humans. So pleased it ended.

On X Factor and BGT when they used to show ‘funny’ auditions of people who believed they had talent but really didn’t so got laughed at. They then brought them back for the final to do a humiliating routine live so they could be laughed at more.

Supernanny. Childless woman who can barely speak properly pulls lemon faces, tells parents they’re shit and Instills sudden and sharp changes in the child’s home where actual camera are focussing on them when they’re distraught and upset

Sun sea and suspicious parents. Mum and dad spying on their adult children from a rooftop in Greece whilst said child gets off with a stranger. CREEPY!

I have no interest in Jo Frost's class or status as a mother (or not). I taught for years before having my own children and believe I was able to give parents good advice based on a considerable numbers of years training in childhood development.

That said, I do take issue with her behaviour management techniques. Her entire approach is based on behaviourist conditioning. It's commonly used to train dogs. It is also proven (in peer reviewed papers) to cause children psychological distress.

Ah but Norland nannies are nice young ladies from "good" families.

@ChillyFloss the reason for the question about being related to members of the council on the job application form is to ensure fairness - that people do not have an advantage because they are related to someone! It's a declaration in case of conflict of interest.

@SunsetOverTheBeach I think there are different ways to raise children so I am not promoting her methods. But they were far more complex than simply a behaviourist approach, that is simply an inaccurate summary.
She was very big on saying parents had to spend time playing with their children, having fun and talking to them about what interests them. She often "prescribed" sessions for a parent to play 1-1 with a particular child. She recognised some parents get into a negative cycle where it is all about practicalities and responding to a child negative behaviour and they never have any fun together.

In 2007!!??? 2007??!! Wow.

I started work in 2006, sure it was a bit more sexist than now but wow. Not to those levels …

@antelopevalley her approach to dealing with tantrums / bad behaviour was behaviourist conditioning. I’m not saying everything she advised was but her approach to behaviour management most certainly was. To be honest I struggled to watch her putting children on the naughty step - it was genuinely distressing.

This article goes through it in some more depth for anyone interested: mamablog.teach-through-love.com/2014/03/why-supernanny-is-dead-wrong.html?m=1

Regardless of anyones class/experience of parenting it shocks me that people watched that show and implemented their own naughty steps.

Wtf??

Being told having a ruler shoved up by skirt and having my bum slapped by a boy was perfectly acceptable because my skirt was too short. This was 2008 when I was at school. Would not be acceptable nowadays.

The fact that people were crying out for more lockdowns washing their shopping , wearing goggles and gloves to do their shopping. It seems bonkers now 😳.

Erm, that's awful for your friend but I'm not sure your friend having an RTA falls under the same category as things which shouldn't still happen....

2006ish... was not allowed in a pub lounge because I was female.
It was empty.

Competitive coldness from people who can afford it on MN.

I'm thinking TrashyPanda meant her friend was the driver or passenger of the car, not wearing a seatbelt.

How is it obvious?

And I’m not the one implying it’s working class people that don’t speak properly 🤷‍♀️

Ever so sorry I didn’t list every single grievance I have about the woman in my OP 😂

Honestly the utter desperation from some posters to pick holes is fucking pathetic

That degree fee's rose from around 3k a year to 9-10k a year.

That student accommodation providers assume the amount students get is to solely cover rent and charge a student receiving 5k a year 6k in rent when there are no jobs for students.

That Liz Truss got away with ruining the Housing market for an entire generation to the point no one can get mortgages or afford to buy even with jobs on over 30k a year.

That the conservative party is literally running the NHS into the ground through reduced spending to force privatization and people aren't acknowledging it.

That the government has screwed people aged 18-30 over so much, most people I know are/have moved abroad permanently, which will leave a huge void in the job and housing market and reduction in tax collection...solely because of their negligence and failure to offer opportunities to buy and grow.

Since when did children make porn?

Probably the attitude towards childless people that made you think it was relevant to your criticism of Jo Frost.

But I loved Jeremy Kyle. I used to record and watch it when I got home from work

The market was already on its way down Liz just sped it up. All the housing markets in western economies are falling, the UK wouldn't have got out of it unscathed. We live in a global economy , we buy a lot of imports in dollars if the pound crashes we can't buy those things. When the US increases rates we must follow.

Also it was crazy that house prices were allowed to increase 25-30 percent in two years. It wasn't normal.

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet any legitimacy you may have had with this thread I think you have lost. Why is it ok for you to comment and sneer at the way another person talks? Seems a bit ironic to me that you can’t see that. When you are generating het up about the way others are treated.

The wide-scale horrific abuse of Meghan Markle.

Jeremy Kyle and all the reality shows bombarded folks to be on the shows to the point some gave in or the ones that didn’t know what it entailed went on to be stitched up

oh and saying he called out feckless fathers he was one as he has nowt to do with his own children so hypocrite comes to mind vile man

as for Super Nanny load of tosh that programme all for the ratings. The kids couldn’t consent to it but it made good telly.

her methods well…..

Racism hasn’t went away it’s still there

new laws brought in for coercive, financial abuse yeah police need more training there as they damn well ignore it so nothing has changed really. Seen it happen over and over again.

smoking on the bus

trying to avoid the showers at school

male PE teacher sauntering in too hence us trying to avoid the showers.

being given the belt or the chalk duster flying by your ears.

told I couldn’t become a doctor as I was just a girl I should just marry one fukkers