Things in RECENT times you can’t quite believe we’re seen as ‘ok’

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The Jeremy Kyle Show. Middle class man shouts at poor people who aren’t terribly bright, for not being perfect humans. So pleased it ended.

On X Factor and BGT when they used to show ‘funny’ auditions of people who believed they had talent but really didn’t so got laughed at. They then brought them back for the final to do a humiliating routine live so they could be laughed at more.

Supernanny. Childless woman who can barely speak properly pulls lemon faces, tells parents they’re shit and Instills sudden and sharp changes in the child’s home where actual camera are focussing on them when they’re distraught and upset

Sun sea and suspicious parents. Mum and dad spying on their adult children from a rooftop in Greece whilst said child gets off with a stranger. CREEPY!

The winner and runner-up of the latest Drag Race series were a bearded Drag Queen and a bald one. There are maybe some who do 'womanface' but drag comes in many forms. The majority of them aren't putting on a wig and a pair of heels to take the piss out of Sandra from down the road.

I used to love that programme

It wasn't long ago black face entertainment was a big thing...ie the black and white minstrel show...you'd think we would have learnt our lesson.

Oh god yes, yputubers and influencers. Especially those that flaunt wealth when the country on their knees or buy loads of tat from November to make present mountains.. read the room ! But a special place in hell for those that have flaunted their kids on it for content , some of those kids know nothing but a camera in their faces most of the day and can't consent.

That the peach crayon/pen/paint was often named 'skin colour'.

YABU about Supernanny, her methods work. I don’t think 5 mins on the naughty step killed any one.

I’m in Scotland

1976 Act, as amended by 2006 Act provides for “no fault” (aka irreconcilable differences) with one year separation plus consent or two year separation without consent.

like you, I’m surprised it took England so long.

A lot of the dislike of supernanny is class based. Middle class women unhappy that a working class woman is talking about how they should parent their child.

Agreed

YY smoking in aeroplanes.

In my first professional job, in 2001 😵women were required to wear hosiery and heels. A pant suit was fine but you had to have heels on.

Absolutely, assumptions are made about her level of intellect due to her accent. I always thought she came off as knowledgeable on the show.

I had no idea Jo Frost was working class and don’t care - I dislike her because she is part of a programme that exploits vulnerable children for entertainment. If she spoke like the Queen and came from landed gentry I’d think exactly the same

DH and I went on holiday to Tenerife in late 1996, when I was a few weeks' pregnant with DC1, and I thought I was going to die on the way home with all the smoke around me...

I'm not sure it was meant to be lighthearted?

More making a point that there are things as recent as the 2000s which we now see as being unacceptable .

I agree that posters have extended it to things happening today which shouldn't be accepted either - but they seem to be making valid points .

That it wasn't until October 1991 (under The Children Act 1989) that UK children got the right to protection from abuse and exploitation and the right to inquiries (and court proceedings) to safeguard their welfare.

That until 2010 you could legally sack someone for being gay or refuse them service at a business.

You might have justifiable reasons not to like the programme,. but it is obvious she is working class. That is what all the comments about her not being able to speak properly from various people here really mean.

So it’s no longer about the way she talks and lack of children?

Norland nannies are often ‘childless’, but that’s fine huh.

Yes, I remember that. Talk about 'othering'.
On a similar note, it's pretty awful that it took until

2018 - for darker skin tones of ballet shoes FINALLY to be made in UK for first time

2020 - ditto different shades of plasters

Agree about foodbanks. So common and normalised.

Influencers.

@FlissyPaps @Boooooot

I can't imagine anyone is that naïve that they aren't aware that people do drive without a valid licence - just that it is neither legal - nor the accepted norm . Oh - and I live on a council estate too .

Food banks!

That a bride and groom's mothers' names were not put on their marriage certificate in England until last year. Shocking!

First job - manager asked me directly if I was planning on getting pregnant.

early 1970s - friend went through car windscreen in an accident and suffered terrible injuries. She was in a coma for weeks.

I think people giving examples from the 1970s are missing the point of the thread .