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Things in RECENT times you can’t quite believe we’re seen as ‘ok’

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LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 30/11/2022 17:45

The Jeremy Kyle Show. Middle class man shouts at poor people who aren’t terribly bright, for not being perfect humans. So pleased it ended.

On X Factor and BGT when they used to show ‘funny’ auditions of people who believed they had talent but really didn’t so got laughed at. They then brought them back for the final to do a humiliating routine live so they could be laughed at more.

Supernanny. Childless woman who can barely speak properly pulls lemon faces, tells parents they’re shit and Instills sudden and sharp changes in the child’s home where actual camera are focussing on them when they’re distraught and upset

Sun sea and suspicious parents. Mum and dad spying on their adult children from a rooftop in Greece whilst said child gets off with a stranger. CREEPY!

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OmiOmy · 30/11/2022 20:32

So much:

Loss of women only services
Men in women's sport
Language: birthing parent, chest feeding, cervix havers
Fetishes and kinks being pushed to be acceptable in the public domain.

swirlypinky · 30/11/2022 20:32

@Confusion101

Not sure you understand how people were recruited for jezza kyle? Watch the documentary about it

BMW6 · 30/11/2022 20:33

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 30/11/2022 19:22

When I trained as a nurse, ‘83-‘87, there were smoking day rooms on every hospital ward. Patients weren’t allowed to smoke in bed, because of the piped oxygen (we didn’t want them blowing the place up), but if they could stagger - or be pushed - to the day room, they could smoke to their hearts’ content. Even if they were in hospital with lung cancer or circulatory problems related to smoking.

I can beat that. I am 65 and remember huge wards with long tables in the centre where people ate AND SMOKED 😮

User45899 · 30/11/2022 20:33

Not knowing the correct use of license and licence...

Confusion101 · 30/11/2022 20:35

healthadvice123 · 30/11/2022 20:26

@JenniferAllisonPhillipaSue visable bra straps ? Its a bra thats all

I would take visible bra straps over those rotten plastic "invisible" (very clearly visible) bra straps from the 90s 🤣

Mylife2099 · 30/11/2022 20:36

The fact you can advertise for fund raising (go fund me) to remove breasts at age 16 as you want to be a boy

I’m a celebrity - what actually happens to the animals in the trials?

latetothefisting · 30/11/2022 20:38

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 30/11/2022 19:16

What made you think I was mocking, or even referring to, her accent?! Confused

I’ll add another to my list: Faux outrage when having completely misunderstood something. A MN special 🤣

go on then, what did you mean when you said supernanny "can barely speak properly"?

Honestly interested, because she doesn't seem to have any physical affliction that limits her communication, doesn't have a stutter or other speech impediment, (not that that those would be ok to mock either), has a perfectly standard vocabulary, and everyone on the show always seems to understand exactly what she says, so in what way can she "barely speak properly?"

You are asking for examples of things that you can't believe are seen as ok, I feel the view that people without perfect RP accents and textbook speech patterns shouldn't be allowed on TV, or that mocking them for their vernacular, shouldn't be seen as ok?

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 30/11/2022 20:39

Ive already answered the question upthread I’m not repeating it.

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healthadvice123 · 30/11/2022 20:39

@1AngelicFruitCake because many people don't believe in discipline nowadays and call it soft parenting or whatever , rather than lazy parenting as always easier to always say yes or ignore than actually say no. Look at how schools now are so really not working

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 30/11/2022 20:42

I’m not a ‘soft parent’ but I don’t think it’s particularly nice to take a child who has had 4 years of mum lying next to them until they slept, and suddenly get to a point where a whole crew of strangers are in their home and a woman is telling your mum “just put her back to bed don’t even speak to her” when you have come down to find her.

I remember an episode where she constantly reprimanded a woman for breastfeeding her toddler when the toddler was upset. That’s that’s child’s comfort and there’s some twat telling your mum “what are you DOING” when you seek that comfort out.

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Bluekerfuffle · 30/11/2022 20:42

Tonty · 30/11/2022 20:26

Childless woman who can barely speak properly pulls lemon faces,

You sound so much better than herHmm

As for the talent shows, I believe no one is dragging them kicking and screaming to take part. I think most of them actually enjoyed their few moments of fame and for some, it led to a bit of work for them locally. Not everyone is a victim.

And some gotchumiliation that they were clearly not expecting and then had years of bullying in their community. I can remember two X factor cases where that happened, and we know the same happened to Jeremy Kyle’s guests.

MrsHughesPinny · 30/11/2022 20:44

The show 10 Years Younger and that vile goblin Gillian McKeith.

Husbandintheroom · 30/11/2022 20:47

latetothefisting · 30/11/2022 20:38

go on then, what did you mean when you said supernanny "can barely speak properly"?

Honestly interested, because she doesn't seem to have any physical affliction that limits her communication, doesn't have a stutter or other speech impediment, (not that that those would be ok to mock either), has a perfectly standard vocabulary, and everyone on the show always seems to understand exactly what she says, so in what way can she "barely speak properly?"

You are asking for examples of things that you can't believe are seen as ok, I feel the view that people without perfect RP accents and textbook speech patterns shouldn't be allowed on TV, or that mocking them for their vernacular, shouldn't be seen as ok?

The fact Jo Frost says things are unasseptable (unacceptable) is an obvious one

lljkk · 30/11/2022 20:48

i find it easier to list things that are now not ok but I think should still be considered fine.

Bakeacaketoday · 30/11/2022 20:48

CountrySky · 30/11/2022 19:34

I think in the future we will be shocked

  • people are able to take photos of anyone they want and upload them online without consent (deepfaking trend as well, awful)
  • are able to troll people anonymously online
  • that despite the amazing tech we have in the world, all our children are just a few clicks away from pornography

Basically all the worst things about the net.

My future prediction; we will all need to be identified to use the net - like a digital passort/identity.

Husbandintheroom · 30/11/2022 20:48

I have one: Naked attraction. Now that’s ‘unasseptable 😬😂

HelloDaisy · 30/11/2022 20:48

nannykatherine · 30/11/2022 20:23

What will they look like on 20 years

Ha ha, I hadn’t thought about that! Probably saggy old lips, or they’ll have to have more and more put in to counteract the stretching 🤣

LimeTwists · 30/11/2022 20:51

Trinny & Susannah pulling down a woman’s knickers on tv (without warning her) because they decided they wanted to get rid of her VPL.

Ohuhu · 30/11/2022 20:52

The Imprisonment for Public Protection (IPP) sentence, brought in in 2005 in the UK, which lead to people being given what amounted to life sentences for 150 offences including relatively minor crimes such as criminal damage, with no guarantee they would ever be released from prison. 8000+ people, including hundreds of children aged 10-17, were given IPP sentences. There are numerous cases of people on tariffs of less than a year serving decades in prison on IPPs. Once released, they remain on license for at least 10 years, potentially for life, where they can be recalled into prison at any time for breaking license conditions.

The sentence was recognised as manifestly unjust and was abolished 2012, but not for those who were already serving it. 10 years later over 2500 people are still in prison on IPPs. 74 have committed suicide.

I can't believe that this was ever seen as OK, that still nothing has been done about it while the suicide count continues to rise, and I can't believe that so many people today are happy to turn a blind eye to the appalling, inhumane conditions of so many of the UK's prisons.

Slig · 30/11/2022 20:55

Mums willingly taking their kids to the Library to have men overtly sexually dressed as woman and let them read their kids stories. I mean what the actual fuck???

Letting men play in women's sport teams. The future will be agog that this was allowed and even encouraged!

That guide leaders who have penises are allowed to dress as women and go camping with young girls without the girls' parents knowledge.

PetraBP · 30/11/2022 20:57

Has anyone said Little Britain yet?

In the 00s we still had…

Page 3.

Countdowns to when teenage celebrities would be “legal” (ie their 16th birthdays).

Teachers dating 6th formers (now illegal).

Section 28.

Jimmy SaVILE and Rolf Harmis

LlynTegid · 30/11/2022 20:57

Mrs Browns Boys- foul mouthed cheap nasty supposed throwback to comedies of the 1970s, but not funny and the language would never be on tv then.

Figgygal · 30/11/2022 20:58

Smoking canteens at work
So grim!!

PetraBP · 30/11/2022 21:00

Also casual sexism and people referring to
the corner shop as the “P—i shop”

CampfireZen · 30/11/2022 21:00

Child beauty pageants.

Bleurgh.