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Things in RECENT times you can’t quite believe we’re seen as ‘ok’

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LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 30/11/2022 17:45

The Jeremy Kyle Show. Middle class man shouts at poor people who aren’t terribly bright, for not being perfect humans. So pleased it ended.

On X Factor and BGT when they used to show ‘funny’ auditions of people who believed they had talent but really didn’t so got laughed at. They then brought them back for the final to do a humiliating routine live so they could be laughed at more.

Supernanny. Childless woman who can barely speak properly pulls lemon faces, tells parents they’re shit and Instills sudden and sharp changes in the child’s home where actual camera are focussing on them when they’re distraught and upset

Sun sea and suspicious parents. Mum and dad spying on their adult children from a rooftop in Greece whilst said child gets off with a stranger. CREEPY!

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PetraBP · 30/11/2022 21:00

And everyone smoking all day every day!

ShirleyPhallus · 30/11/2022 21:03

latetothefisting · 30/11/2022 20:38

go on then, what did you mean when you said supernanny "can barely speak properly"?

Honestly interested, because she doesn't seem to have any physical affliction that limits her communication, doesn't have a stutter or other speech impediment, (not that that those would be ok to mock either), has a perfectly standard vocabulary, and everyone on the show always seems to understand exactly what she says, so in what way can she "barely speak properly?"

You are asking for examples of things that you can't believe are seen as ok, I feel the view that people without perfect RP accents and textbook speech patterns shouldn't be allowed on TV, or that mocking them for their vernacular, shouldn't be seen as ok?

She doesn’t have a “standard vocabulary”, she’d use words like ezzzzzakaly (exactly) and uneseppebel (unacceptable)

FallopianTubeTrain · 30/11/2022 21:03

Allywill · 30/11/2022 20:05

it was banned in 1986 on US planes and 1988 on all planes

2000 apparently. I remember flying to Japan in 1997 on a school exchange and being sat in row the in front of the smoking section. They just pulled a curtain across.

mumwon · 30/11/2022 21:04

sending your 12 year old to get a multi pack of cigarettes (my dm use to send my sister or me to do this - neither of us have smoked throughout our lives so it turned out well)
Using your phone in the public loo doing a selfie film to send to your followers with aim of upsetting women who use them. Invasion of privacy and possibly, if they film a child under 13 which is blinking illegal.

PetraBP · 30/11/2022 21:05

FallopianTubeTrain · 30/11/2022 21:03

2000 apparently. I remember flying to Japan in 1997 on a school exchange and being sat in row the in front of the smoking section. They just pulled a curtain across.

I vouch for that. Smoking on planes was definitely still a thing in the late 90s.

FlissyPaps · 30/11/2022 21:07

HelloDaisy · 30/11/2022 20:48

Ha ha, I hadn’t thought about that! Probably saggy old lips, or they’ll have to have more and more put in to counteract the stretching 🤣

This comment says way more about you then it does the people who choose to have aesthetic treatments.

Sad life when you have to negatively describe other peoples appearances.

petalpower · 30/11/2022 21:10

@Puffalicious I started teaching in 1991 and the male head wouldn’t allow female teachers to wear trousers. Unbelievable when I think about it now. We also had to call him Mr Surname and were never allowed to use his first name.

MichaelFabricantWig · 30/11/2022 21:12

upfucked · 30/11/2022 18:08

Little Britain show. Although David Walliams children’s books are full if tropes.

This.

AltheaVestr1t · 30/11/2022 21:12

MooFroo · 30/11/2022 18:19

twerking and ‘modern day’ dance moves in secondary school performance with girls in crop tops and some in very short shorts - older teenage pupils.
lots of men in the audience.

why not have a dress code that preserves modesty and dignity?

That people still think that girls and women should be 'modest' and 'dignified' rather than that men should take responsibility for not being sexually aggressive.

MNMH · 30/11/2022 21:12

Not knowing the difference between personal pet peeves/prejudices and actual systemic issues

MichaelFabricantWig · 30/11/2022 21:13

Blacking up - not that historic at all as it was in programmes like little Britain/come fly with me

thisisasurvivor · 30/11/2022 21:14

Ducksinthebath · 30/11/2022 18:01

What does Jo Frost’s lack of children have to do with anything? It doesn’t make her any less qualified a nanny.

My lecturer at Cambridge sometimes talked about some of the success she had on the show

Legallypinkish · 30/11/2022 21:16

FlissyPaps · 30/11/2022 18:50

I’m not saying it was normal. I’m saying it was seen as ‘ok’ since most of my family members and their friends would drive around uninsured and without licenses before the 21st century.

I questioned my mum about it once and she said “oh everyone did it back then”.

I was driving in eighties. It most definitely was not seen as OK to drive without a licence or insurance and I don’t know anyone who did!

FallopianTubeTrain · 30/11/2022 21:18

MrsHughesPinny · 30/11/2022 20:44

The show 10 Years Younger and that vile goblin Gillian McKeith.

She was right though, Gillian McKeith. I had 2 of her books (still got one of them) and her approach was solely about cutting out all processed foods (which was rediscovered by the Van Tulleken twins recently and heralded as revolutionary). I followed it for a few years and it was the healthiest period of my life, I felt and looked amazing. I wish I could find the discipline to get back to that way of doing things.

I do on the other hand accept that her tv show treated people awfully in the name of entertainment and she is no more medically qualified than I am. The Van Tulleken's do at least have the decency to be qualified and engage with proper research.

SoShallINever · 30/11/2022 21:18

"Oh she's sweet but a psycho", awful use of disablist language in a song.

Also that David Walliams psychiatric patient character from little Britain, ? Anne. That sketch is hugely disablist and God knows how anyone found it funny.

MPs in jungles instead of doing their proper jobs.

"Prince" Andrew, hiding behind the Queen to escape justice.

Cutting the tails off dogs to fit a breed standard. Similarly overbreeding dogs, so the poor things can hardly breathe. And as for cropping ears 😒

Twilight7777 · 30/11/2022 21:18

The openly misogynistic culture of the 90s and early 20s. Charlotte church turning 16 and it being a countdown. Same with Sam fox and other girls. Openly taking the piss out of disabled people, particularly people with learning disabilities. The stickers about Harvey that someone mentioned makes me feel sick to the stomach. Lockdown and the ability of government to be able to stop people leaving their houses, all whilst they were having parties. I think everyone that was fined for leaving or going to a party (not including government in this) should be refunded their money. The attitude of healthcare staff even now with deaf people. Refusing to lower masks to help people who are lip readers even when more than 2ft distance. Disgusted that the government didn’t insist on clear window masks so that deaf people weren’t excluded and isolated.

Shamoo · 30/11/2022 21:19

My old work place didn’t allow women to wear trousers until 1996

I want allowed to play football at school because I was a girl

Rape was legal in marriage until the 1990s

we regularly had to leave school and go to the designated safe meeting place because of IRA bomb threats. And the fact that Gerry Adams wasn’t allowed to speak on TV and they used an English voice for a voice over, which is just so random!

MichaelFabricantWig · 30/11/2022 21:22

page 3
smoking- in pubs/clubs etc. going home from a night out stinking of smoke. Smoking around children. Our house must have stank as my dad smoked despite my mum being a clean freak. Yuck.

iswintercoming · 30/11/2022 21:23

This meme came to mind..

Things in RECENT times you can’t quite believe we’re seen as ‘ok’
Legallypinkish · 30/11/2022 21:24

Allywill · 30/11/2022 20:05

it was banned in 1986 on US planes and 1988 on all planes

Definitely wasn’t banned in 1988, May 98 in the UK. I was definitely smoking on planes in the 90’s.

Mia85 · 30/11/2022 21:25

CampfireZen · 30/11/2022 20:23

@RincewindsHat
In 2019, Mr Justice Hayden who observed: ‘I cannot think of any more obviously fundamental human right than the right of a man to have sex with his wife,’ when presiding over a case where a man wanted to be able to have sex with his mentally ill wife even if she was unable to give her consent (and some people defended this statement and took umbrage when female MPs pointed out that it's the same as legitimising marital rape).

Good grief. Appalling 😡

This case was badly mis-reported and that reporting did terrible damage to the poor couple. It's explained more fully here if people are interested transparencyproject.org.uk/capacity-to-consent-to-sexual-relations-obscurity-illuminated/

Benjispruce4 · 30/11/2022 21:26

Naked Attraction. Wth???

Passthecheeseboard · 30/11/2022 21:30

Jeremy Kyle show… always thought he was a bully.

All the abusers who could hide behind their fame/ money and power and be protected the duration of their lives, while having unlimited access to vulnerable people … jimmy Saville for example…

And the fact that a certain popular TV morning show presenter can groom young men with no consequences (and we don’t know what age he was when the grooming started).

I think a time will come when smoking will be unheard of and we will wonder what on earth people were thinking.

Also women’s healthcare will (hopefully) improve and the contraception we have like coils and intrusive hormones will seem really bad. Also that conditions affecting women will (hopefully) get more research, better treatments and faster diagnosis from GPs (like endometriosis, menopause)

Mental health care will hopefully improve too, and we will be shocked at the lack of services during this time.

I wonder if there will be long term side effects to common procedures like Botox and fillers… Will these chemicals/ toxins injected into our bodies have any negative effects on us later on. Will we one day look back on these cosmetic procedures and think wtf…

Passthecheeseboard · 30/11/2022 21:30

Benjispruce4 · 30/11/2022 21:26

Naked Attraction. Wth???

Haha I love this show 🤣

Teaandtoast2022 · 30/11/2022 21:30

That some children are entitled to a better education simply because their parents can afford it.

I find that shocking.