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Neighbour / friend asking too much?

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KiraChris · 27/11/2022 16:12

Hey. I have a neighbour who has become a friend. For years now she has asked for milk, tea bags etc,cleaning products, my hoover, ipad, perfume. And it was hard to day no as she would say I'm just gonna use ur perfume that I like if that's OK. Not oh can I use it. But sometimes I quite like it as its like having a little sister but it does get me down sometimes. My ex when lived with me used to get so annoyed. She now has a baby, her partner can't live at our flats for other reasons. But she always has his support...money, hoover, cleaning things, baby clothes, anything she needs she gets it for her. I only have myself to rely on and when I buy a new box of teabags etc I like to make them last but within a couple of weeks all the box is almsot all gone without even realising. My concern is this (I apologise its long)

Before the baby and even since the baby she wanted lifts (she doesn't drive) her partner does but he's not allowed at our block of flats some sort of issue with police I don't know ins and outs. Before the baby she would want to borrow my ipad or tablet, would get stroppy via texts or in person at the very few times I said no. Sometimes she would let me use her tumble dryer but not often. That's all I really asked to use. She would want milk, Tampons, even asks to borrow my perfume and makeup (which I don't mind as I didn't have sisters growing up so it kind of feels sweet)... sometimes I wanna say no but I don't feel I can. She's had a very hard life and without sounding mean I have more than she does (I used to work before my ex which was a terrible relationship which is another issue so I don't work atm) but I did my flat up, have lots of makeup and perfume, not saying it's amazing but I did the best I could with my wages.. anyway she didn't even have a bed until the last year or so so I always felt a bit protective of her as she's younger, but she could be mouthy when drinking but then so could anyone(she wasnt towards me). But since the baby she's alot calmer and doesn't touch drugs or drink now.

But the thing is she's always asking to borrow things 4 teabags then another 4 or 5 couple days later and then my box of teabags is getting low before I know it, washing powder and conditioner which I do give some, milk I said I only had a little left until the morning which I gave to her as I knew I prob wouldn't need it, I gave her 2 toilet rolls when I only had 4 and when I went to hers for a cuppa she had like 7 toilet rolls and said she just likes to top up which upset me as I had less than her to start with, and then there is the lifts. Right now I'm not working so I know it must look like I have spare time on my hands but I have taken her to London for hospital appts twice. Now she asked and I said yes ofc but this was in September just gone and at that point I was like a zombie only just split from my ex riddled in heartache, couldn't even look after myself but I just said yes without even thinking.there were london congestion charges. Her partner gave me the money for this and diesel money but I forgot to pay congestion charges and then days later got really annoyed at the situation as I was so mentally weak my mind was like fog I didn't know what I was doing day to day and she said she felt I was being rude but I said I'm so sorry I didn't want her to think I was annoyed at HER i was more annoyed at myself for not paying it. And I got charged an £80 fine. But I did say yes but also said I'm not sure if I am in the right mind set to drive to London but I didn't wanna let her down.

The thing is she always checked on me, ran me a bath when I couldn't even look after myself, said right we need to get u back to you, she made me dinner and would listen to me going on and on about my ex and the heartache so I feel she's a good friend. But during these weak moments there was alot of oh can u go to the shop for me, can u meet my partner to grab money off him etc

Every day almost she asks me to get things from the shop for her to get baby wipes or baby milk or Toiletries for her, she asks me to meet her partner to give him his washing, or for him to give me the hoover he got for her and other random things. It's only 3 min drive away so I don't want diesel for that as I can't stand pettiness. He picked me up from the train station when I went away a little while ago too.

Sometimes I'm at hers having a coffee in dressing gown about 11pm ready for bed and she says oh can you go meet Liam for me to get this or that and I often say yes. Or she's on the phone to him and while I'm sat there she days to him oh I will send Chrissy to get them bits from you now and im just sat thinkong wtf shes not even asked me then after the phonecall ends she said right i need you to go meet liam for me now please, or I will be in the middle of doing things in my flat and she will say can u go meet Liam please and I say can I go in an hour or so and she says not really he needs sleep he has work in the morning and as I'm not working I feel like a right low life not working (I lost work after my ex and have struggled mentally massively haven't worked for couple years now) so I feel being on benefits I have no right to tell a working man to wait around for me yet at the same time I was in such a state even past 2 months later I'm still only just getting my flat back together as my whole life flipped upside down (there was alot of abuse in my relationship) I have always been so house proud and let my home go so I'm always cleaning and catching up with things.

I went to ireland for 2 weeks where my cousin moved to so I also had that time I wasn't able to sort my home out. So I'm always doing things and my friend back in Sept would say we need to get you back to you the clean and tidy Chrissy who loves driving (I love cars and driving) but now I'm doing stuff AND trying to build myself up mentally she gets offended if I don't knock on her door sometimes which I think comes from a good place but I do like my own space sometimes and hoped she would see I'm just trying to get things back up and running in my life.

Anyway, she asks me to pop out to get her fags or other non important bits and I've started to say no as little trips effect my diesel cost. She asked the other day am I going out I said no and she said OK. Then hour later text saying 'go to the shop' and I said no sorry I'm not going out this eve I need to save my petrol then she text saying OK don't worry about it I've had a shit day as though to say thanks for nothing. Then text me asking for milk and I gave her the last of my milk.

She has had a very hard life so I want to help. But she gets stroppy on the few times I do say no to things. She needed to go to London again to the hospital last week I said I couldn't as my tyre keeps going down and I don't have money to sort it atm and don't wanna make it worse by driving to London and her partner begged me to take her saying he would replace my tyre for me, I said thanks so much but that's too much and my friend also said no way am I gonna let Liam pay that much for your tyre then she said in a sharp tone well I've been waiting for this appt for so long I'm gonna have to cancel it but its really important so now I can't get there in snappy tone which I think she expected me to say don't worry I will do it. I think Liam paid for a cab for her in the end but she didn't speak to me for a day or 2.

Since then I've done a couple loads of washing for her with my detergent etc. I asked to use some of her clothes conditioner couple days later and she said she only had a little left which doesn't make sense because only couple days before she said she had totally run out so if she brought more since then she wouldn't have just a tiny bit left only a couple days later.

Back in Sept I was in a zombie upset state and would go to late night little sainsburys get us both a ready meal, she pays for her obviously, and she would sometimes say can you not go to the shop too late and I would say don't rely on me for food today as I cant guarantee I will be up for going. But one time I went she said to get anything, came back and she said she didn't like the ready meal I got her and said not to worry and I could have it so I did..couple days later she asked to borrow my tablet and order something from ebay then said to me... you can pay for this as I didn't eat that ready meal and it was £4, I was tired, (I was at hers she had just made a coffee and it was about 11pm) so I just did it.

Another time she asked me to fill out a form she needed posted and I said I will do give me 20min then I got side tracked as I spilt something under my washing machine so had to pull it out to clean it then she said she missed the deadline of sending it and that it's my fault she won't get money on time (it was something to do with getting money back from something)

She asked me to meet her bf the next day to collect a rug doctor for her to use, I struggle to sleep which she knows as I cry every night and some days for hours as I feel so alone and heartbroken over ex still but I knocked on her door about 1ish and she snapped saying its too late now as she needed it in the morning to do before the afternoon so it doesn't affect her sons sleep routine so I said I'm so sorry and what if I collected it tonight (it's a 24hr lease) and you can do it first thing tomorrow then and she said no dw about it.

She wanted to go to primark and we don't have one in our town so I said where I go to my dentist they have one so rather than you having to give me diesel money why don't we go the day I have my appt as I've already budgeted for that so that was fine. I had repair men round earlier that day to fix plumbing issues and wanted do on that day i wamted to rescedule my dentist appt as plumbing issues took longer than expected and I said to her could we go next week or if we go today just to primark can u give me diesel money as I can't afford to go to this town twice and she snapped and kind of shouted and said well no i need to go today i need to get some clothes for little man (he already has clothes but i know hes starting to grow out if them so i didnt wanna let her down) and she was reluctant about diesel money. In the end i managed to get to my appt as the plumber took a while and there was lots of traffic but we managed it. Before we left I said I'd not long got my car deep cleaned which cost money and asked her if its OK she didnt eat in my car but she still did and I let it slide. It wasn't until the next day in daylight I saw all her crumbs from her own food and smears all over the window on her side, not even where her little boy was. I thought to myself babies make a mess as lots of his milk is all pver my leather seats and that's natural for babies to make a mess but I couldn't even ask her if she would give me a bit of money towards getting it re cleaned as she has since been giving me a bit of silent treatment as I said iwouldnt get her wipes yesterday when I popped out as I wasn't going to the shop she needed me to go to and I had alot to do but said I would later and she said don't worry about it and closed the door on me. (I knocked on her door to give her a toy that was left on my car seat). Also on the same day the plumber was at mine earlier on before we left for primark she had a Dr's appt and asked if I could take her I said I'd try but then as the plumbers took longer than expected I told her like 2 hours before her appt i coupdnt take her (her doctors is out local doctors surgery so not in another town) and she said really sharply well this is why I needed you to meet Liam last night to get money off him (I had said no the previous night to meet Liam because I had bad period cramps and was exhausted when she asked me to meet him, she asked me to meet him at like almost midnight which sounds crazy but since my breakup I am always up late so I think that's why she feel I won't mind which often I don't bit last couple of weeks I've actually trued to go to bed earlier and I pretty much meet Liam for this or that so many times and he has brought me a chicken burger couple times to say thanks)

It was pouring down with rain and she said well now we have to walk in the rain. I gave her my bank card to take money out for a cab as she's very straight woth money so I trusted her. Anyway after the plumbers finished I picked her up from docs surgery to go to primark and my dentist and she said I didn't use ur card thanks anyway. She said I had to use money I have aside for primark so now I probably won't have enough in a really sharp tone. Then got in my car eating crisps I said jokingly be careful don't get crumbs on my car. So I can't ask her to help me clean it up.

I've looked after her little boy couple times for maybe 5 or 10 min she never expects to babysit or anything but couple times he was crying like when I'm in the drivers seat of my car and she's run into the docs or shop and I tried to calm him down saying mummy will be back soon etc singing to him etc and she got in the car and said omg his face is covered in tears and snot in the kind of tone that was telling me off and I was like I'm so sorry I didn't realise as I had to keep driving while waiting for her to finish her appt as I couldn't park anywhere stationary or I'd get fined as everywhere had yellow lines.

I used her tumble dryer few weeks ago for couple towels as I was playing catch up with my washing after depression and she then said omg my tumble dryer isn't working proeprly since ur towels went in you will have to give me money towards a new one! so i said oh i dont want you to have no tumble dryer im so sorry so i took the towels out. Shes been using it ever since with no repairs done.

I borrowed some toothpaste as I hadn't been shopping which isn't like me as I'm usually so organised but since my split in end of August I've been in such emotional pain.but i gave it back to her i barely used any. I dont ask for anything.

I want her to feel she can ask me for help with things but what upsets me is the very few times I say no she gets snappy or gives me the silent treatment or literally says because of me she can't get the money for example with me not filing that form out on time

I will never forget how much she was there for me when I hadn't showered or eaten for so long and just knocked on my door sayong ive made you dinner. She had been away fpr a few months staying with her brother and didn't come back until early Sept.

The last couple of years before her boy was born I would give her some lifts and let her use my tablet for days as she has no TV and let her use my WiFi but when I would ask for things she would often say no. Occasionally I've borrowed a couple of things but now I won't ever ask to borrow her tumble dryer. She said I broke her front door couple years ago too when I let it slam itself shut when I popped to mine to grab my tablet for her ehich she asked to borrow while i was at hers but the thing is the wall was already damaged by the door and the door frame was already off.

I just don't know how to take this friendship. Sometimes I am generally exhausted particularly emotionally and i don't wanna be going to the shop when I'm not even going for myself. Alot of times I do what she asks then she says I need you to go back out and meet Liam now etc so soemtimes i am going 3 times in one day for her. And I should have just said no but she listened to me go on about my ex so much and been there for me so I don't wanna let her down but its getting too much for me I don't know what to do. I've tried to talk to her about this but she just says we'll im shocked you're saying that tbh with her eyebrows raised saying that I'm just being rude

She has her partner to support her I only have myself yet she will ask for toilet rolls or something when all along she had more than I had before I even gave her any just so she can stock up. Which i think she likes to stock up as she doesnt drive so its hard to carry so much with a buggy but she obviously managed while I was away in Ireland. I could be sitting at hers thinking this is nice having a girlie chat watching TV and then she asks me to go out to the shop or something. Most of the time if I say no she raises her eyebrows and says ok well im gonna go to bed before ive even finisged my tea she made me.

She did say sometimes I push her away which maybe I do as she knocks on my door at like 1pm but because I've maybe not gone to sleep until 7am after being up all night crying I'm still asleep which makes me feel bad.

If I ever say no to something which I rarely do but I've said no twice to things now in last couple of days I hear nothing from her, she snaps at me. Honestly I've picked up Liams washing from his to give to her to wash, dropped it back to him (one time I didn't drop it back to him and she said yeah well i had to carry the washing basket which was really heavy, again with her eyebrows raised in a snappy tone), I go to him to give him her old TV her can use (he brought her a new one) and I get back home and she says right I need you to go back to him as I forgot to give him the aerial, i have met him to pick up new toys etc he got for their little boy which I honestly don't mind, I meet him to collect money like £100 each time to give back to her so she can buy what she wants which makes me sad as it makes me realise I have no one looking out for me which isn't their fault (I don't mean financially, just generally I'm very alone), I have gone out to meet him to get money off him to buy her cigarettes, Idont smoke myself so I don't know how much it costs. All of this wouldn't even cross my mind if the very few times I said no she just said oh OK no worries and we carry on chatting away. She literally kind of chucks me out her house when I say no sometimes and I rarely say no. Sometimes I just want to bath and curl up in bed watching something without being told I have to go out at midnight to meet Liam or something.

He has actually said to me oh u don't actually have to do anything for us we early appreciate it when I said sorry as I got to him an hour later than I said I could get there. And hes had a long chat eith me about my ex as he knew him and said I need to be strong etc. So I do feel they are my friends but its not so much Liam, it's more my friend that gets annoyed at me if I dont go to the shop or something. She doesn't grasp these little trips add up on my diesel,or that the back seat mess and spilt milk is upsetting as i only recently got a proper deep xar clean which i saved up for, even walking round primark she had the buggy and would dump each item of clothing on me to carry while I followed her around which tbf she couldn't put it all on the buggy but for some reason that bit made me feel shit. She's not a stuck up girl,shes like me, housing association. But I see her as a friend but I feel maybe she sees me as an errands girl??!

What do I do??

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KenAdams · 27/11/2022 20:28

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OhwhyOY · 27/11/2022 21:23

I'm sorry but she isn't a friend. She's raking advantage of you, and being just nice enough to keep you onside. Given you are obviously nervous about saying no to her just because, can you e.g. make up an excuse that you have been diagnosed with a chronic illness (to be fair sounds like you could be suffering with mental health problems anyway) and so you've been told you need to rest more? However you do it my advice is stop doing EVERYTHING you are currently doing for her, and see whether your 'friend' is still in your life. If she's really a friend she will understand. And if her partner is more reasonable maybe worth explaining to him about the situation so hopefully he can find a workaround for her. Surely social services shouldn't be expecting her to rely so heavily on a neighbour? Might also be worth talking to them, though that's obviously a risky option and may cause her to get angry with you.

PurpleButterflyWings · 27/11/2022 21:32

My God, I need a power nap after reading that. Shock

As I said, yeah, she's taking the Mickey.

Nevermind31 · 27/11/2022 22:05

In the nicest possible way… stop letting her walk all over you. If she gets snappy say… you are asking for a favour, beggars can’t be choosers.

and please … give her one teabag, or one roll of toilet paper… and say… you can return it once you have stocked up.

and really - never give her your bank card or tablet

VanGoghsDog · 27/11/2022 23:05

If you like cleaning, it might be worth looking for a few hours a day cleaning job. If you struggle in the morning I'm sure you could do afternoons. There are cleaning firms that specialise in schools and the work is after three but not late into the evening.

Talk to your benefits advisor/coach.

It would get you out of the house a bit and start to rebuild your self esteem.

I also agree that you should look into moving.

DixonD · 27/11/2022 23:41

I think you should go back to work, or even volunteer, as soon as you are able to get you out of your home and less available to her. This would also get you back into a normal sleep routine and less available for errands in the dead if night. The less available you are, the less she will call on you and she will soon find someone else.

Mummyoflittledragon · 28/11/2022 00:53

aloris · 27/11/2022 19:29

I read your entire post. It is very much "stream of consciousness.". If you don't mind my pulling out some of the patterns in your narrative, here is what I see you've written:

Why you help her: (a) she has spent a lot of time listening to you when you feel sad about the breakup of your relationship with your ex; (b) you don't mind helping her; (c) you feel it's nice to help her and she reminds you of a sweet little sister; (d) you feel she has less than you so you feel obligated to help her morally.

I would also add another reason you may be helping her: (e) you are very lonely and feel like being friends with her is better than not having any friends.

What happens that causes you to feel frustrated with her:

(a) she asks for help that would be unnecessary if she had even slight consideration for your welfare, sometimes sending you out three times in one day to meet with him for one (unnecessary) reason or another.
(b) she takes small items from you so often that it cuts into your own ability to meet your own basic needs and you discovered that she does this not to meet her own basic needs but for her convenience.
(c) if you fail to jump to her every command she kicks you out of her apartment mid-teacup, and once even kicked your door so aggressively that you were afraid it would kick your door in.
(d) if you try to meet her demands but your own legitimate needs interfere (e.g. filling out the form "on time"), then she blames you for the effect on her and acts as if you owe her money.
(e) on the rare occasion she reciprocates the MASSIVE favors you have done for her, she accuses you of something and acts as if you owe her money, e.g. saying that you using her dryer to dry your towels caused her dryer to break and now you need to help her pay for a new dryer.

I also thought the story about her eating in the car after you asked her not to, and leaving smears on the inside, was interesting. You were helping her at the time, so this vindictive behavior was not retaliation at your not helping her, it was merely because you were not sufficiently submissive when you WERE helping her.

I hope that seeing all of this in a summary helps you to understand that you are being treated poorly and you do not deserve this. Her listening to you vent about your ex is not sufficiently helpful to justify asking you to go out several times a day to meet her boyfriend, giving her frequent rides and doing all her errands with little or no money given back for fuel, and taking your basic household supplies with no regard for whether you need them. I am worried at how low is your self-esteem that you don't seem to mind her doing this, and you allow her to do it repeatedly?

Regarding your need for her friendship, you say that you still cry all night at times. I am wondering if it is possible you would get over your ex more quickly if you did not have this woman in your life. She does not seem to treat you as a person with any worth or rights of your own.

Are you afraid at what she would do if you stopped giving in to her demands?

Do you have any access to therapy? How about the Freedom Programme?

This is such a brilliant post. I’m quoting it so that you can see it for a second time.

You can get a few sessions of counselling by self referring through the GP. That would be a start. MIND is really good but the waiting list is long and I’d really recommend contacting them to get on the list. Sessions are probably free for you or very low as they are means tested fee.

This woman is abusive. She does not think she’s your a little sister. She thinks you’re her minion and treating you like a slave. She is not your friend.

People are never all good or all bad and just because she got you through the first few weeks of your break up, it doesn’t mean you owe her anything. Perhaps in fact she was so nice to you to make you feel beholden to her.

You are traumatised and every time you are in contact with this woman, you are being re traumatised. Idk how old you are, but if she had a drugs problem 11 years ago, she is not a very young woman in need and doesn’t need looking after. Her boyfriend sounds like trouble. They both do and I imagine you are actually afraid of stopping contact with her because of how you will be treated.

I also thought of the freedom programme www.freedomprogramme.co.uk. Please look into this.

Bottom line, if you cannot stay away from her, you should put in for a transfer and move. If you move or go very low contact, you will have so much time.

Mummyoflittledragon · 28/11/2022 00:58

Oops posted too soon.

If you go low contact or no contact, you will have so much time to do things for you. Get some counselling, maybe find a job for a few hours a week to build your self back up again.

You actually have so many skills. You could even use the skills you have to get paid work. For example, there are many vulnerable, elderly people, who would be happy for someone trustworthy to go and see them, do a bit of shopping, cleaning and talk to them if that appealed. Perhaps you’d need to do this as volunteer work to build up trust and a reputation but I hope you get the idea.

Until you get away from this woman, you really don’t know who you are and what you can do. Please stop giving your life away to her.

bluetowel1 · 28/11/2022 01:22

Hey OP. Well done for reaching out for help. There's some great advice from pp - you absolutely need to cut her off completely, get some part time paid work - some mentioned cleaning jobs - easy to get and would be ideal for you to earn, get out of your bubble and away from her.

If you struggle with the bravery to say no to her, maybe pretend to be ill for a few days then ignore all messages, calls, knocks etc. Drop a message saying you were sleeping and going back to sleep so she doesn't kick your door down. After that, hopefully you'll feel a bit more confident to say no to her requests.

In that time, look into the freedom program, look at part time jobs where you can clean or help people in some way.

You've made the first step! Use mn for support and stay strong. She is another abusive relationship that you've swapped your ex for. Enough is enough! Get your life back!

TreadLightly3 · 28/11/2022 01:41

Bless you, @KiraChris you sound like such a lovely and generous person. Your friend sounds like a classic piss taker and she seems very manipulative of you with her moods and silence and other passive aggressive behaviour when she doesn’t get what she wants. Please do an online course in assertiveness or look up some techniques to stand up for yourself because you are being too kind and it’s not at all fair on you. Good luck xx

MrsPetty · 03/12/2022 17:55

I had a neighbour who sounds very similar. Sometimes the givers have to draw a line because the takers never will. I suggest that you let go with love. Be too busy to have coffee with her. Always ‘have just run out’ of whatever it is she wants to borrow or wants you to give her. If she comes to your door grab your coat before you answer it and say you were just leaving. She’ll get the message. I still say hi to my neighbour when I see her but once she realised that I wasn’t going to be mugged off she stopped calling …

BMW6 · 03/12/2022 18:16

OP you value her as a friend, but please,please believe SHE IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.

She is using you. Her attitude and behaviours to you are despicable. She is a nasty bitch, because she is using your naievity and compliance against you. Those are not the actions of a good person who has friendly and kindly feelings towards you.

I really believe you would do well to get away from her and have nothing more to do with her.

MarthaMC · 03/12/2022 19:21

I might be jumping to conclusions but your 'friend' sounds more like a contolling, manipulative and abusive partner, sometimes she's kind, more often she's putting you down and making you feel like you owe her. Along with her (I can only assume criminal) partner in on the act too this is seriously ringing alarm bells to me.

Distance yourself, make up that you've had a big expense of some sort and now are completely skint/paying off a credit card or whatever. Stop answering the door, pretend to have covid, take up a hobby etc. even say you're going through a low period and just want to be alone. Just please don't stay in this situation!

I feel like I'm going to read about you in the tabloids in a few months; 'woman injured/fleeced out of all her money/murdered by friend and partner' 😳 sorry to be dramatic but something about it all is incredibly off. Look after yourself!

P.s. I have broken off long term toxic friendships 2-3 times in my life, it's like huge weight lifted when you do and you'll wonder why you put up with them for so long

Pinot4me · 03/12/2022 19:31

Wow! I’ve got a thread going at the moment asking for advice about a neighbour who has being royally taking advantage. Mine seems quite tame now. Your problem is much worse. Take back control. It isn’t easy but it is empowering!

Quincythequince · 03/12/2022 20:49

Way too long OP

RWB9 · 03/12/2022 21:02

I think OP knows by now that the post was long. There’s no need to reiterate that again and again.

It’s pretty clear to me that OP feels her only ‘friend’ is this awful neighbour. She has nobody else to rant to and is here to offload to friends, so shouldn’t we all be acting a bit more like it?

OP as everyone has said, this woman is being so so unreasonable. She’s bullying you and using you at the lowest and most vulnerable time in your life. I assume you’re probably quite nervous that she’ll ramp up the bullying if you don’t comply. But this is putting you into an abusive relationship.

It’ll be very hard to keep your distance from her and will be a lot easier to just get on with it. But you really need to look out for yourself, you’ll never get over your ex or meet any new friends/romantic partners with this awful woman around.

I know you say this woman has had a hard life and that’s awful, but you have to remember this woman is the controller of her own life. That’s not your responsibility, your responsibility is to control your own life and don’t let her become the reason people refer to your hard life in the future.

Best of luck x

Greenpolkadot · 03/12/2022 21:48

I couldn't read all that, it was too much of the same thing
You complain a lot OP but do you do anything about it..?
She's a leach and a parasite, pull your big girl pants on and start saying no,jo and more no.She not your friend and you know that..

Darkstar4855 · 03/12/2022 21:54

She’s not your friend. She is manipulating and exploiting you.

Looby57 · 04/12/2022 06:52

Sorry too long I was losing the will to live after the first two paragraphs! She’s a sponger, drop her

Heyhoitsme · 04/12/2022 08:39

Well done for getting it off your chest. I too am someone who needs to write it all down. You know you're being used big-time. Stop letting her take your stuff. Tell her the cost of living rise is making life difficult. Buy the cheapest teabags and let her borrow one or two. Keep telling her you can't afford diesel and won't be using your car for unnecessary journeys.

TinkyWinkyRainbowHead · 04/12/2022 08:52

I couldn’t read all of that as it went on a bit. However, you need to just say no, simple.

EmmaDilemma5 · 04/12/2022 08:57

She's a friend, not a relative.

The good thing about friends is you can dump them easily.

Get slower responding to her. Start saying no a bit more often. Stop inviting her round as much. She'll soon get the message.

I wouldn't go cold turkey with her in case you get problems.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 04/12/2022 09:12

Tescoheslth · 27/11/2022 16:40

I did read it all OP and you sound like a lovely kind person who is being taken advantage of. Yes to slowly withdrawing , she'll either ship up or ship out. Good luck xx

This....

She has got very used to you doing everything for her that she can't /won't do....

Her getting annoyed would have been the last straw for me....

Do ah experiment.... Say no to the next 4 asks.... Is she still contacting you for girly catch ups?? Start asking her for more favours... Stuff that takes time /is inconvenient for her?

That should tell you all you need to know....

Also... Why can't 'Liam' visit? Is he a risk around children?? If he is it's another reason to withdraw from these people.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 04/12/2022 09:40

KiraChris · 27/11/2022 17:10

No this is one of my worries at night - being able to afford it. Couple years ago I raised my voice through my door at her to leave me be as she refused to give my tablet or something back I can't remember now and she kicked my door almost kicking it in and I have a new door now but she did drugs then and doesn't now so barely has a temper but I've sometimes gone without something like milk as I gave her the last of mine as its hard to explain but she's so nice calling me babes etc when she asks for things it's hard to say no. But I do worry as I'm giving her things I've brought for myself that I don't get round to using. The worst thing is my cleaning products and washing powder as its allt of money x

I've read all your original post OP and some of the following ones....

It strikes me that you feel quite alone /lonely and she's using this?

Can you make it a priority to try and meet sone new people? I think you'll be sopsjrproses what a normal happy friendship feels like!

It strikes me that the 'nice' things she's down for you costs her little /nothing in terms of time/effort /money....

Calling you 'babes' /let's get you back to you (unless backed up with lots of effort...).

It is just chat....

The extra plate of food? Little effort... And prob minimal cost to her(esp after all the lifts /petrol you've used).

Using her tumble drier.... She tried to blame you and get you to pay for it?!? (two towels won't BREAK it!!)

In comparison nearly ALL the things you do cost you massively in terms of time /fuel/cost of loo rolls/cleaning products).

I can't imagine going out three times in one day(esp close to midnight...) to facilitate a neighbours minor needs.....

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 04/12/2022 09:48

KiraChris · 27/11/2022 17:16

I know Liam well, they had a domestic dispute 11 years ago and now they have a baby social services will be on anything if the police were involved which they were 11 years ago. He's a nice guy, it was over a decade ago they had a fight with eachother but because there is a baby and my friends mum was a drug addict, the social look at my friend as someone from a broken family which she was which isn't her fault which is why I want to help. My problem isn't her asking, my only issue is how she is when I do say no sometimes - snapping at me, silent treatment, having a go at me

I suggest he's far from a nice guy....

No one gets banned for this level of issues.... She'll hae minimised it /much more to this than you know.