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Neighbour / friend asking too much?

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KiraChris · 27/11/2022 16:12

Hey. I have a neighbour who has become a friend. For years now she has asked for milk, tea bags etc,cleaning products, my hoover, ipad, perfume. And it was hard to day no as she would say I'm just gonna use ur perfume that I like if that's OK. Not oh can I use it. But sometimes I quite like it as its like having a little sister but it does get me down sometimes. My ex when lived with me used to get so annoyed. She now has a baby, her partner can't live at our flats for other reasons. But she always has his support...money, hoover, cleaning things, baby clothes, anything she needs she gets it for her. I only have myself to rely on and when I buy a new box of teabags etc I like to make them last but within a couple of weeks all the box is almsot all gone without even realising. My concern is this (I apologise its long)

Before the baby and even since the baby she wanted lifts (she doesn't drive) her partner does but he's not allowed at our block of flats some sort of issue with police I don't know ins and outs. Before the baby she would want to borrow my ipad or tablet, would get stroppy via texts or in person at the very few times I said no. Sometimes she would let me use her tumble dryer but not often. That's all I really asked to use. She would want milk, Tampons, even asks to borrow my perfume and makeup (which I don't mind as I didn't have sisters growing up so it kind of feels sweet)... sometimes I wanna say no but I don't feel I can. She's had a very hard life and without sounding mean I have more than she does (I used to work before my ex which was a terrible relationship which is another issue so I don't work atm) but I did my flat up, have lots of makeup and perfume, not saying it's amazing but I did the best I could with my wages.. anyway she didn't even have a bed until the last year or so so I always felt a bit protective of her as she's younger, but she could be mouthy when drinking but then so could anyone(she wasnt towards me). But since the baby she's alot calmer and doesn't touch drugs or drink now.

But the thing is she's always asking to borrow things 4 teabags then another 4 or 5 couple days later and then my box of teabags is getting low before I know it, washing powder and conditioner which I do give some, milk I said I only had a little left until the morning which I gave to her as I knew I prob wouldn't need it, I gave her 2 toilet rolls when I only had 4 and when I went to hers for a cuppa she had like 7 toilet rolls and said she just likes to top up which upset me as I had less than her to start with, and then there is the lifts. Right now I'm not working so I know it must look like I have spare time on my hands but I have taken her to London for hospital appts twice. Now she asked and I said yes ofc but this was in September just gone and at that point I was like a zombie only just split from my ex riddled in heartache, couldn't even look after myself but I just said yes without even thinking.there were london congestion charges. Her partner gave me the money for this and diesel money but I forgot to pay congestion charges and then days later got really annoyed at the situation as I was so mentally weak my mind was like fog I didn't know what I was doing day to day and she said she felt I was being rude but I said I'm so sorry I didn't want her to think I was annoyed at HER i was more annoyed at myself for not paying it. And I got charged an £80 fine. But I did say yes but also said I'm not sure if I am in the right mind set to drive to London but I didn't wanna let her down.

The thing is she always checked on me, ran me a bath when I couldn't even look after myself, said right we need to get u back to you, she made me dinner and would listen to me going on and on about my ex and the heartache so I feel she's a good friend. But during these weak moments there was alot of oh can u go to the shop for me, can u meet my partner to grab money off him etc

Every day almost she asks me to get things from the shop for her to get baby wipes or baby milk or Toiletries for her, she asks me to meet her partner to give him his washing, or for him to give me the hoover he got for her and other random things. It's only 3 min drive away so I don't want diesel for that as I can't stand pettiness. He picked me up from the train station when I went away a little while ago too.

Sometimes I'm at hers having a coffee in dressing gown about 11pm ready for bed and she says oh can you go meet Liam for me to get this or that and I often say yes. Or she's on the phone to him and while I'm sat there she days to him oh I will send Chrissy to get them bits from you now and im just sat thinkong wtf shes not even asked me then after the phonecall ends she said right i need you to go meet liam for me now please, or I will be in the middle of doing things in my flat and she will say can u go meet Liam please and I say can I go in an hour or so and she says not really he needs sleep he has work in the morning and as I'm not working I feel like a right low life not working (I lost work after my ex and have struggled mentally massively haven't worked for couple years now) so I feel being on benefits I have no right to tell a working man to wait around for me yet at the same time I was in such a state even past 2 months later I'm still only just getting my flat back together as my whole life flipped upside down (there was alot of abuse in my relationship) I have always been so house proud and let my home go so I'm always cleaning and catching up with things.

I went to ireland for 2 weeks where my cousin moved to so I also had that time I wasn't able to sort my home out. So I'm always doing things and my friend back in Sept would say we need to get you back to you the clean and tidy Chrissy who loves driving (I love cars and driving) but now I'm doing stuff AND trying to build myself up mentally she gets offended if I don't knock on her door sometimes which I think comes from a good place but I do like my own space sometimes and hoped she would see I'm just trying to get things back up and running in my life.

Anyway, she asks me to pop out to get her fags or other non important bits and I've started to say no as little trips effect my diesel cost. She asked the other day am I going out I said no and she said OK. Then hour later text saying 'go to the shop' and I said no sorry I'm not going out this eve I need to save my petrol then she text saying OK don't worry about it I've had a shit day as though to say thanks for nothing. Then text me asking for milk and I gave her the last of my milk.

She has had a very hard life so I want to help. But she gets stroppy on the few times I do say no to things. She needed to go to London again to the hospital last week I said I couldn't as my tyre keeps going down and I don't have money to sort it atm and don't wanna make it worse by driving to London and her partner begged me to take her saying he would replace my tyre for me, I said thanks so much but that's too much and my friend also said no way am I gonna let Liam pay that much for your tyre then she said in a sharp tone well I've been waiting for this appt for so long I'm gonna have to cancel it but its really important so now I can't get there in snappy tone which I think she expected me to say don't worry I will do it. I think Liam paid for a cab for her in the end but she didn't speak to me for a day or 2.

Since then I've done a couple loads of washing for her with my detergent etc. I asked to use some of her clothes conditioner couple days later and she said she only had a little left which doesn't make sense because only couple days before she said she had totally run out so if she brought more since then she wouldn't have just a tiny bit left only a couple days later.

Back in Sept I was in a zombie upset state and would go to late night little sainsburys get us both a ready meal, she pays for her obviously, and she would sometimes say can you not go to the shop too late and I would say don't rely on me for food today as I cant guarantee I will be up for going. But one time I went she said to get anything, came back and she said she didn't like the ready meal I got her and said not to worry and I could have it so I did..couple days later she asked to borrow my tablet and order something from ebay then said to me... you can pay for this as I didn't eat that ready meal and it was £4, I was tired, (I was at hers she had just made a coffee and it was about 11pm) so I just did it.

Another time she asked me to fill out a form she needed posted and I said I will do give me 20min then I got side tracked as I spilt something under my washing machine so had to pull it out to clean it then she said she missed the deadline of sending it and that it's my fault she won't get money on time (it was something to do with getting money back from something)

She asked me to meet her bf the next day to collect a rug doctor for her to use, I struggle to sleep which she knows as I cry every night and some days for hours as I feel so alone and heartbroken over ex still but I knocked on her door about 1ish and she snapped saying its too late now as she needed it in the morning to do before the afternoon so it doesn't affect her sons sleep routine so I said I'm so sorry and what if I collected it tonight (it's a 24hr lease) and you can do it first thing tomorrow then and she said no dw about it.

She wanted to go to primark and we don't have one in our town so I said where I go to my dentist they have one so rather than you having to give me diesel money why don't we go the day I have my appt as I've already budgeted for that so that was fine. I had repair men round earlier that day to fix plumbing issues and wanted do on that day i wamted to rescedule my dentist appt as plumbing issues took longer than expected and I said to her could we go next week or if we go today just to primark can u give me diesel money as I can't afford to go to this town twice and she snapped and kind of shouted and said well no i need to go today i need to get some clothes for little man (he already has clothes but i know hes starting to grow out if them so i didnt wanna let her down) and she was reluctant about diesel money. In the end i managed to get to my appt as the plumber took a while and there was lots of traffic but we managed it. Before we left I said I'd not long got my car deep cleaned which cost money and asked her if its OK she didnt eat in my car but she still did and I let it slide. It wasn't until the next day in daylight I saw all her crumbs from her own food and smears all over the window on her side, not even where her little boy was. I thought to myself babies make a mess as lots of his milk is all pver my leather seats and that's natural for babies to make a mess but I couldn't even ask her if she would give me a bit of money towards getting it re cleaned as she has since been giving me a bit of silent treatment as I said iwouldnt get her wipes yesterday when I popped out as I wasn't going to the shop she needed me to go to and I had alot to do but said I would later and she said don't worry about it and closed the door on me. (I knocked on her door to give her a toy that was left on my car seat). Also on the same day the plumber was at mine earlier on before we left for primark she had a Dr's appt and asked if I could take her I said I'd try but then as the plumbers took longer than expected I told her like 2 hours before her appt i coupdnt take her (her doctors is out local doctors surgery so not in another town) and she said really sharply well this is why I needed you to meet Liam last night to get money off him (I had said no the previous night to meet Liam because I had bad period cramps and was exhausted when she asked me to meet him, she asked me to meet him at like almost midnight which sounds crazy but since my breakup I am always up late so I think that's why she feel I won't mind which often I don't bit last couple of weeks I've actually trued to go to bed earlier and I pretty much meet Liam for this or that so many times and he has brought me a chicken burger couple times to say thanks)

It was pouring down with rain and she said well now we have to walk in the rain. I gave her my bank card to take money out for a cab as she's very straight woth money so I trusted her. Anyway after the plumbers finished I picked her up from docs surgery to go to primark and my dentist and she said I didn't use ur card thanks anyway. She said I had to use money I have aside for primark so now I probably won't have enough in a really sharp tone. Then got in my car eating crisps I said jokingly be careful don't get crumbs on my car. So I can't ask her to help me clean it up.

I've looked after her little boy couple times for maybe 5 or 10 min she never expects to babysit or anything but couple times he was crying like when I'm in the drivers seat of my car and she's run into the docs or shop and I tried to calm him down saying mummy will be back soon etc singing to him etc and she got in the car and said omg his face is covered in tears and snot in the kind of tone that was telling me off and I was like I'm so sorry I didn't realise as I had to keep driving while waiting for her to finish her appt as I couldn't park anywhere stationary or I'd get fined as everywhere had yellow lines.

I used her tumble dryer few weeks ago for couple towels as I was playing catch up with my washing after depression and she then said omg my tumble dryer isn't working proeprly since ur towels went in you will have to give me money towards a new one! so i said oh i dont want you to have no tumble dryer im so sorry so i took the towels out. Shes been using it ever since with no repairs done.

I borrowed some toothpaste as I hadn't been shopping which isn't like me as I'm usually so organised but since my split in end of August I've been in such emotional pain.but i gave it back to her i barely used any. I dont ask for anything.

I want her to feel she can ask me for help with things but what upsets me is the very few times I say no she gets snappy or gives me the silent treatment or literally says because of me she can't get the money for example with me not filing that form out on time

I will never forget how much she was there for me when I hadn't showered or eaten for so long and just knocked on my door sayong ive made you dinner. She had been away fpr a few months staying with her brother and didn't come back until early Sept.

The last couple of years before her boy was born I would give her some lifts and let her use my tablet for days as she has no TV and let her use my WiFi but when I would ask for things she would often say no. Occasionally I've borrowed a couple of things but now I won't ever ask to borrow her tumble dryer. She said I broke her front door couple years ago too when I let it slam itself shut when I popped to mine to grab my tablet for her ehich she asked to borrow while i was at hers but the thing is the wall was already damaged by the door and the door frame was already off.

I just don't know how to take this friendship. Sometimes I am generally exhausted particularly emotionally and i don't wanna be going to the shop when I'm not even going for myself. Alot of times I do what she asks then she says I need you to go back out and meet Liam now etc so soemtimes i am going 3 times in one day for her. And I should have just said no but she listened to me go on about my ex so much and been there for me so I don't wanna let her down but its getting too much for me I don't know what to do. I've tried to talk to her about this but she just says we'll im shocked you're saying that tbh with her eyebrows raised saying that I'm just being rude

She has her partner to support her I only have myself yet she will ask for toilet rolls or something when all along she had more than I had before I even gave her any just so she can stock up. Which i think she likes to stock up as she doesnt drive so its hard to carry so much with a buggy but she obviously managed while I was away in Ireland. I could be sitting at hers thinking this is nice having a girlie chat watching TV and then she asks me to go out to the shop or something. Most of the time if I say no she raises her eyebrows and says ok well im gonna go to bed before ive even finisged my tea she made me.

She did say sometimes I push her away which maybe I do as she knocks on my door at like 1pm but because I've maybe not gone to sleep until 7am after being up all night crying I'm still asleep which makes me feel bad.

If I ever say no to something which I rarely do but I've said no twice to things now in last couple of days I hear nothing from her, she snaps at me. Honestly I've picked up Liams washing from his to give to her to wash, dropped it back to him (one time I didn't drop it back to him and she said yeah well i had to carry the washing basket which was really heavy, again with her eyebrows raised in a snappy tone), I go to him to give him her old TV her can use (he brought her a new one) and I get back home and she says right I need you to go back to him as I forgot to give him the aerial, i have met him to pick up new toys etc he got for their little boy which I honestly don't mind, I meet him to collect money like £100 each time to give back to her so she can buy what she wants which makes me sad as it makes me realise I have no one looking out for me which isn't their fault (I don't mean financially, just generally I'm very alone), I have gone out to meet him to get money off him to buy her cigarettes, Idont smoke myself so I don't know how much it costs. All of this wouldn't even cross my mind if the very few times I said no she just said oh OK no worries and we carry on chatting away. She literally kind of chucks me out her house when I say no sometimes and I rarely say no. Sometimes I just want to bath and curl up in bed watching something without being told I have to go out at midnight to meet Liam or something.

He has actually said to me oh u don't actually have to do anything for us we early appreciate it when I said sorry as I got to him an hour later than I said I could get there. And hes had a long chat eith me about my ex as he knew him and said I need to be strong etc. So I do feel they are my friends but its not so much Liam, it's more my friend that gets annoyed at me if I dont go to the shop or something. She doesn't grasp these little trips add up on my diesel,or that the back seat mess and spilt milk is upsetting as i only recently got a proper deep xar clean which i saved up for, even walking round primark she had the buggy and would dump each item of clothing on me to carry while I followed her around which tbf she couldn't put it all on the buggy but for some reason that bit made me feel shit. She's not a stuck up girl,shes like me, housing association. But I see her as a friend but I feel maybe she sees me as an errands girl??!

What do I do??

OP posts:
Roundandnour · 27/11/2022 17:06

Tell her no.

You don’t have more than her. She also has Liam who is working.

I wouls want to know more about his situation if I were to meet him again on my own.

Sounds very dodgy he’s not allowed near her property.

Get some proper support for your mh.

Do the freedom program www.freedomprogramme.co.uk

Her having extra loo rolls or whatever might be from anxiety however this isn’t your problem. Not only does she have people in her life chances are cos shes a single mum she will have more money than you cos of benefits and money from Liam.

even Liam is telling you although it’s a nice thing for you to do you don’t have to do those things for her.

DimSumAndGT · 27/11/2022 17:07

She is a user, stop giving her stuff. If her BF is banned from being in the flats it’s serious, it really means he is not allowed to be near her, sounds like she may lose her child if she continues to see him.

I would say you have really bad boundaries, in fact you have none and I imagine you had a difficult childhood. Befriend people but stop always trying to please them you will end up being used all your life.

fruktsoda · 27/11/2022 17:08

Sorry, but she's using you. She may not be all bad (few are), but she's more of a taker than a giver. You can still be friendly without giving too much of yourself and the little you have. If she won't accept that you have boundaries, she's not a true friend.

cookiesbeforepookies · 27/11/2022 17:08

This woman is not a friend, she’s not a kind of little sister, she is a leech and a parasite.

You need to stop giving her anything. And then you’ll see how quickly she moves on to the next mug.

JayJayYoYo · 27/11/2022 17:08

You need to let it go and move on .

LittIe · 27/11/2022 17:08

Also, if he’s banned from seeing her/being in the premises, and she has a background involving drugs, I would not be running money between them.

Dottielottie123 · 27/11/2022 17:08

You sound like a lovely friend but she is taking advantage and you have to stick up for
yourself. She’s not asking because she is skint, she’s asking because she would rather you pay for her toilet roll and her boyfriend and her have her own money for herself. You just need to start saying ‘ no sorry but I have one income, you have yours and Liam helps you with money’. Maybe when you do your shopping once a week if she’s a friend say do you want to come? Remind her she needs to buy toilet roll and teabags lol. I know it must be awkward if she lives near you, but nip this is the bud as it’s getting worse. Imagine her and him break up, she’s going to lean on your even more financially then. Hopefully she plans to move and live with him at some point x

IncompleteSenten · 27/11/2022 17:09

She is not your friend.
She's a user and a bully.
Stop being a doormat.

KiraChris · 27/11/2022 17:10

No this is one of my worries at night - being able to afford it. Couple years ago I raised my voice through my door at her to leave me be as she refused to give my tablet or something back I can't remember now and she kicked my door almost kicking it in and I have a new door now but she did drugs then and doesn't now so barely has a temper but I've sometimes gone without something like milk as I gave her the last of mine as its hard to explain but she's so nice calling me babes etc when she asks for things it's hard to say no. But I do worry as I'm giving her things I've brought for myself that I don't get round to using. The worst thing is my cleaning products and washing powder as its allt of money x

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Readaboutyourself · 27/11/2022 17:12

Too long OP.

But yeah, you’re her PA and only you can change that.

SequinsandStilettos · 27/11/2022 17:14

Hi.

I did read it all - you sound vulnerable, lost and lonely. I can appreciate that. Covid lockdowns, mental health, loss of job, loss of boyfriend. You are amazing to have got out of duvet mode when depressed.

She may have helped you once, but you have helped her out a lot more: the relationship is not equal. You know this deep down as you have a long list of favours there and understandable gripes (the fine, the car, the unreasonable requests at unreasonable times) - which have bred resentment.

You are a people-pleaser, and you still feel you owe her as she looked out for you, but I think now she is taking advantage of your kind nature.

Yes, it is kind to help out but when it comes to driving, it has to be on your terms i.e. when it does not put you out. If she does not like that, then she orders online.

Costs should be equal. She pays towards petrol or pays in kind with electricity i.e. You drive, she tumbles. You wash, she tumbles.

Items "borrowed" (in this case, taken, let's be honest here) are rebought/returned in full.

This is before we even get to the liaising on behalf of a boyfriend with an asbo/police record/social services concern - whichever one it is which means he is banned from your property.

So. In short:
bad
You feel used.
You might be able to turn a blind eye if the reciprocity/quid pro quo/favours were equal, appreciated and there was no sulking. But she is sulking, and the errands are too much.
good
You see her as a friend/sister, and she is company for you. You have similar background/class/lives. You feel less alone. She gets you out the house literally.

Me - I would start by prioritising me.

I would not be doing errands 3x a day like an unpaid gofer/P.A./runner.
I would try and get a job working from home, so I am no longer available as a skivvy.
I would join any women's group, mental health group or any free training provided by my UC manager or find an evening class/hobby group free to anyone on benefits.
I would add myself to the very long waiting list for counselling (psychotherapy) via my GP.
I would no longer open my door to her if I wanted to sever ties and call it quits.

If still in contact with her...

I would set down ground rules - namely, when I was going where, how much petrol £ I needed each time and how much £ for items being bought upfront.

I would not be lending out items anymore and would state the cost-of-living crisis as to why I cannot subsidise someone else.

I would tell her again why I felt she was being unreasonable and cut ties if she was not mature enough to accept that she may be at fault.

Good luck x Brew Cake

TequilaNights · 27/11/2022 17:15

I did read all of it.

I almost guarantee, the more you say no, the more she will distance herself from you.

Sorry, but she uses your kindness for her advantage.

olympicsrock · 27/11/2022 17:16

I did read your whole post OP - I hear you. This woman is using you and sees you as her skivvy.
She is not your friend. You need to start saying no - and ignoring her strops and sulks. Call her out - next time she chucks you out when you say no - call her out “ is my company only good enough when I’m doing you a favour?” This business with Liam is ridiculous. She can go out to meet him away from the flats. This is not your problem.
If she has money for cigarettes whe has money for teabags / milk / washing liquid.

The blaming you for breaking things is about getting money from you. Stop feeling guilty.
This is difficult because at some level you enjoy her company. If she stops being your friend because you say no to being at her beck and call , then you don’t need her as a friend. Let her show you who she is and then reevaluate the friendship.

good luck OP xx

KiraChris · 27/11/2022 17:16

I know Liam well, they had a domestic dispute 11 years ago and now they have a baby social services will be on anything if the police were involved which they were 11 years ago. He's a nice guy, it was over a decade ago they had a fight with eachother but because there is a baby and my friends mum was a drug addict, the social look at my friend as someone from a broken family which she was which isn't her fault which is why I want to help. My problem isn't her asking, my only issue is how she is when I do say no sometimes - snapping at me, silent treatment, having a go at me

OP posts:
VanGoghsDog · 27/11/2022 17:17

I read it all, it's not that long. Honestly, why are people so rude? If you didn't read it, or don't want to, why post just to say you didn't read it? Just to kick someone who's obviously down?

OP - you sound very vulnerable. Both these people are taking advantage of you. I wouldn't be surprised if there was something illegal going on and you have been duped into being part of it.

It's incomprehensible that she doesn't just move nearer to, or in with, her so-called 'partner'.

None of her issues like lack of teabags, milk, perfume, inability to drive, organise her life, her kid crying, her money from her bf, his laundry (wtf?). etc etc, are your responsibility. None of them.

OK, she was kind to you when you were low, but this is general humanity. You've paid her bank in buckets and she has turned your "friendship" into a transaction.

You need to cut her off gradually. Say no more. Go to Ireland more. Find some other friends.

LadyKenya · 27/11/2022 17:18

Why would you be willing to leave the safety of your home at midnight to meet "Liam"? That is not putting your own safety first is it? There is no way I would be willing to do that. Learn to say no!

KiraChris · 27/11/2022 17:21

Thankyou for taking the time to read my terribly long post which I didn't realise how long until I actually posted it! So thankyou so much. I will take on what you have said and join soem kind of women's class.

As for diesel money she always gives me diesel for London etc but I have never in my life asked for diesel money for a couple min or local drive. I love driving and have always done that for friends and sometimes they gave me lifts. But I don't do things to get something back in return but yes the strops is what gets me down very much xx

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MeMyBooksAndMyCats · 27/11/2022 17:21

Are you getting her drugs? Nobody needs to go out at nearly midnight to meet someone unless it's drugs.

Theunamedcat · 27/11/2022 17:21

He will have done something recently that you don't know about they won't fuss about something from ten years ago with no recent offences (unless he is a sex offender?)

The word is no
The reason is im busy
I dont have milk I've ran out of tea I'm so low on toilet roll I'm going to end up using my socks

She will look for another mug

SequinsandStilettos · 27/11/2022 17:22

Alternatively, OP having read she once tried to kick your door in Shockif you are in HA property but not tied to location because not working atm, then for the love of God get on a transfer list. Move. Do not give her details or a forwarding address. Don't tell her anything. Just leave. Shamrock

TheSilentPicnic · 27/11/2022 17:23

Yes, it is a long post but the last time I checked there was no obligation to read every thread so to all those criticising and complaining about the OP's thread, take a look at yourselves, do you have any idea how mean and bitter you sound? Some of you treat the boards as an opportunity to belittle, mock and fight. Incredibly rude and socially inept.

To the OP, look, you are really uncomfortable with this situation and you are the only one who can change it.

I know that when you have had a difficult upbringing in which abuse has been normalised that the concept of standing up for yourself can feel impossible to navigate but you do have that strength inside, you just need to make a start. You won't be assertive every time or manage it perfectly but you can definitely start with one thing and then start to build.

You don't want your neighbour to take your belongings and you don't want to run lots of errands for her. That is a completely normal reaction; no one wants to be used and abused even when you may have been taught to take crap or you have been manipulated for so long that you don't know what you think anymore.

Time is your friend. When she texts asking for something, take your time to answer.

Contrary to the litany of claims in here, no is not a complete sentence and "just saying no" is not easy if you have been taught otherwise.

So take your time then respond with one of the following.

  • Sorry, I can't as I am running low
  • Sorry, I can't afford to
  • Sorry, I don't have time
  • I'd love to help but I can't this time
  • I'm running low, can't help

Your lives sound very enmeshed so that will be complicating things. You need to step back. Visit her less frequently and tap into other, less demanding friendships. Don't answer the door every time she knocks. As you spend less time with her you will find it easier to reject her demands.

Your neighbour most likely has similar difficulties in that she has suffered horrendous neglect and therefore has few boundaries. You can actually help her best by showing her your boundaries so she learns what is and what's not appropriate. She probably depends on skills of manipulation as it is the way she has learnt to survive.

The other thing you can do to help yourself is to read up on self-help stuff like becoming assertive and working out what you want. You sound like someone who finds it hard to identify their own needs; this happens when a person's needs have not been met for so long that they no longer recognise them. But deep down you will know your own needs, you just need to take time to tap into them. One way to start is to record your feelings every day. At first you may find you don't even know what you are feeling but keep going and you will soon be able to decipher between angry, sad, happy, excited, annoyed, frustrated, pleased, relaxed etc...

Good luck!

bringincrazyback · 27/11/2022 17:23

I can't see any need for people to be nasty because the OP's post is long. No one's forced to read it and maybe she really needed to get it all off her chest.

OP, she's absolutely taking the piss and asking way too much in exchange for the things she does/has done for you. You're tolerating way too much and she'll just continue like this unless you put your foot down. I suspect at this point she might decide not to be friends any more, because she just seems to see you as some sort of dogsbody, but even if this happens I think your self-esteem will be better for having put your foot down.

One bit of your post in particular jumped out at me: I feel being on benefits I have no right to tell a working man to wait around for me This made me feel sad for you. You aren't inferior to working people because of being on benefits. You're of equal worth as a human being and you have the right to decide your own priorities and say yes or no for yourself just like anyone else does.

Your self-esteem sounds low and this might be something to work on to help yourself feel better? - and to help you deal with your CF neighbour, of course.

MajorCarolDanvers · 27/11/2022 17:23

Bloody hell that is the longest OP I've ever seen and I only read the first bit.

Re your neighbour use the cost of living crisis to put your foot down and say you are now on a strict budget and can't give her stuff any more.

KiraChris · 27/11/2022 17:24

No the reason it's often so late is mainly on me. I don't often sleep at normal hours but soemtimes it's because Liam doesn't get home from work until gone 11pm.

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Rogue1001MNer · 27/11/2022 17:26

Omg, what if people start quoting the op 😱

@Iwritethissittinginthekitchensink
Very kindly put.

Op, I agree with everyone else. Start slowly backing away/saying no/being less available
And if that means you lose her as a friend, you've lost very little