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To think Royal Mail workers should not be striking

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Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 00:55

They’ve already been offered a 9% pay raise and declined. Royal Mail is already making a loss. It’s a national service for the public which is now being severely disrupted by strikes, it’s appalling.

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Mangogogogo · 29/01/2023 12:21

Me and everyone I’ve spoken to haven’t even slightly been affected by our, very rare, mail being delivered slightly late.
noone uses Royal Mail to deliver parcels anymore anyway so I’m a bit confused by it all.
support their right to strike but I just don’t see the uproar at all

dogdaydown · 29/01/2023 12:22

Mangogogogo · 29/01/2023 12:21

Me and everyone I’ve spoken to haven’t even slightly been affected by our, very rare, mail being delivered slightly late.
noone uses Royal Mail to deliver parcels anymore anyway so I’m a bit confused by it all.
support their right to strike but I just don’t see the uproar at all

How many people have you spoken too? 10, 20, 100 or 1000?

GPTec1 · 29/01/2023 12:26

Mangogogogo · 29/01/2023 12:21

Me and everyone I’ve spoken to haven’t even slightly been affected by our, very rare, mail being delivered slightly late.
noone uses Royal Mail to deliver parcels anymore anyway so I’m a bit confused by it all.
support their right to strike but I just don’t see the uproar at all

What on earth are you on about?

Royal Mail carried 1.5 Billion parcels last year & they are by far the most reliable carrier too.

dogdaydown · 29/01/2023 12:31

Mangogogogo · 29/01/2023 12:21

Me and everyone I’ve spoken to haven’t even slightly been affected by our, very rare, mail being delivered slightly late.
noone uses Royal Mail to deliver parcels anymore anyway so I’m a bit confused by it all.
support their right to strike but I just don’t see the uproar at all

Just been to the local Asda, they have a post office, queue 15 deep many holding packages. So I'm not sure you've got that right! Hardly no one using them.

Such a ludicrous statement that no one uses them GrinGrinGrin

dogdaydown · 29/01/2023 12:35

@Mangogogogo no one uses RM for parcels?

www.statista.com/statistics/1006816/royal-mail-volume-of-parcels-and-letters-delivered-uk/

No one? No one in your small circle of friends maybe?

Florenz · 29/01/2023 13:12

Society should be checking on their elderly neighbours and relatives themselves, not rely on postmen or milkmen to do it. "Society" doesn't mean "someone else" it means YOU.

dogdaydown · 29/01/2023 13:15

Florenz · 29/01/2023 13:12

Society should be checking on their elderly neighbours and relatives themselves, not rely on postmen or milkmen to do it. "Society" doesn't mean "someone else" it means YOU.

What did you think of the link I posted for you? Your CEO is a horrible man isn't he? I doubt he checks up on anyone.

GPTec1 · 29/01/2023 13:18

Florenz · 29/01/2023 13:12

Society should be checking on their elderly neighbours and relatives themselves, not rely on postmen or milkmen to do it. "Society" doesn't mean "someone else" it means YOU.

This is true, however, its not always possible and a postie is a friendly and trusted face, a neighbour is not always the same case & unless its organised, that vulnerable person might get 5 visits on day and none for the following week....

Rurally, its even harder to organise but the point is, elderly don't always have good or any internet, can't afford it, don't know how to use it and need stuff sent via the post in a reliable and cheap way.

If you are so keen on competition, make RM competitors deliver mail anywhere for a universal regulated charge and then see how many remain in the market?

Imtryingnottobother · 29/01/2023 13:30

I use RM a lot for my online business. In my experience Its not the actual front line working posties that are the issue with Royal Mail, their job is fairly straightforward (albeit difficult being out in all weathers, being attacked by rabid dogs etc) it’s the back office systems and management function that need modernising.
Their pricing and products are confusing and all over the place, the tracking is useless compared to other courier companies. All letters now have qr codes on them, or capacity for them, but they don’t get used.
Workers being out 24/7 isn’T going to negate that.
Modernising in this instance just means shitter working conditions for frontline staff, not a more efficient product.

Florenz · 29/01/2023 13:36

dogdaydown · 29/01/2023 13:15

What did you think of the link I posted for you? Your CEO is a horrible man isn't he? I doubt he checks up on anyone.

He's not my CEO and I have no interest in watching the link.

Florenz · 29/01/2023 13:40

GPTec1 · 29/01/2023 13:18

This is true, however, its not always possible and a postie is a friendly and trusted face, a neighbour is not always the same case & unless its organised, that vulnerable person might get 5 visits on day and none for the following week....

Rurally, its even harder to organise but the point is, elderly don't always have good or any internet, can't afford it, don't know how to use it and need stuff sent via the post in a reliable and cheap way.

If you are so keen on competition, make RM competitors deliver mail anywhere for a universal regulated charge and then see how many remain in the market?

That's not competition. That's the problem we have at the moment. The government shouldn't be involved. There shouldn't be a universal charge when the costs differ so much. Sending a parcel from one major city to another major city should cost far less than sending a parcel from Lands End to John O Groats. Just like how buying a train ticket to transport a person the same distances varies greatly in cost.

dogdaydown · 29/01/2023 13:42

@Florenz why no interest, you're so invested
In slagging off the workers, but don't want to see your CEO shown up for the liar he is?

Your opinion is therefore not based on both sides, it's great you've also shown yourself up!

Let's see how this all pans out now.....

dogdaydown · 29/01/2023 13:44

dogdaydown · 29/01/2023 13:42

@Florenz why no interest, you're so invested
In slagging off the workers, but don't want to see your CEO shown up for the liar he is?

Your opinion is therefore not based on both sides, it's great you've also shown yourself up!

Let's see how this all pans out now.....

Your CEO is also annihilated for his huge bonus and he lies about that also.

GPTec1 · 29/01/2023 13:48

That's not competition. That's the problem we have at the moment. The government shouldn't be involved. There shouldn't be a universal charge when the costs differ so much. Sending a parcel from one major city to another major city should cost far less than sending a parcel from Lands End to John O Groats. Just like how buying a train ticket to transport a person the same distances varies greatly in cost

The reason they are is the same as we have universal education or health, postal services, as i explained earlier, are an essential service to many.

If Govt stepped back, how would folk afford postal services and companies would just insist on e-documents only, disenfranchising millions of people.

dogdaydown · 29/01/2023 13:48

@Florenz you're being fed lies about what's really happening and you don't want to see that?

Honestly stop reading the daily Mail!

Florenz · 29/01/2023 14:09

I know what's happening, I can see it with my own eyes. The Royal Mail has not moved with the times. I still see postmen and postwomen driving around in Red vans and posting mail through letterboxes and knocking on people's door with parcels. The same today as 20 or 40 or 60 years ago. Meanwhile the rest of the world has changed, and changed dramatically. People cannot expect the rest of the world to make allowances for them, to pay them for a job that has been made obsolete. They have to adapt, evolve, retrain, finely hone their skills or be left behind.

dogdaydown · 29/01/2023 14:12

Florenz · 29/01/2023 14:09

I know what's happening, I can see it with my own eyes. The Royal Mail has not moved with the times. I still see postmen and postwomen driving around in Red vans and posting mail through letterboxes and knocking on people's door with parcels. The same today as 20 or 40 or 60 years ago. Meanwhile the rest of the world has changed, and changed dramatically. People cannot expect the rest of the world to make allowances for them, to pay them for a job that has been made obsolete. They have to adapt, evolve, retrain, finely hone their skills or be left behind.

Don't be silly they moved from bikes to vans not that long ago GrinGrinGrinGrin! The sorting was automated also.

Your CEO states that himself in the clip (although it could also be a lie obviously)

You really know nothing at all. Honestly educate yourself!

GPTec1 · 29/01/2023 14:45

Florenz · 29/01/2023 14:09

I know what's happening, I can see it with my own eyes. The Royal Mail has not moved with the times. I still see postmen and postwomen driving around in Red vans and posting mail through letterboxes and knocking on people's door with parcels. The same today as 20 or 40 or 60 years ago. Meanwhile the rest of the world has changed, and changed dramatically. People cannot expect the rest of the world to make allowances for them, to pay them for a job that has been made obsolete. They have to adapt, evolve, retrain, finely hone their skills or be left behind.

Whoa!!!! how do you expect them to deliver stuff? Telepathy? now i think, having completely lost the argument, you ve resorted to satire.

All companies use vans, knock on doors, leave parcels in garages/sheds etc and post letters through letter boxes.

At least RM use small vans very locally instead of F off great Merc Sprinters driving up the motorways and A roads of England at 100mph.

dogdaydown · 29/01/2023 15:13

@GPTec1 perhaps @Florenz wants drones to deliver, so funny 😆

dogdaydown · 17/02/2023 09:03

To think Royal Mail workers should not be striking
dogdaydown · 17/02/2023 09:03

dogdaydown · 17/02/2023 09:03

Unsurprising but excellent result!

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