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To think Royal Mail workers should not be striking

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Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 00:55

They’ve already been offered a 9% pay raise and declined. Royal Mail is already making a loss. It’s a national service for the public which is now being severely disrupted by strikes, it’s appalling.

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Conkersareback · 27/11/2022 20:59

Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 20:56

I am not a mean or cold hearted person though!

Posted too soon!

Thank you for letting us know that, but you've avoided so many questions! Why?

Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 21:01

Conkersareback · 27/11/2022 20:59

Posted too soon!

Thank you for letting us know that, but you've avoided so many questions! Why?

There are so many replies on the thread that it was simply impossible to respond to every single one, however please do put your questions in your next post to me and I’ll respond to them

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Stillbrokenby2022 · 27/11/2022 21:05

Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 21:01

There are so many replies on the thread that it was simply impossible to respond to every single one, however please do put your questions in your next post to me and I’ll respond to them

Send many summons out by post?

Italiandreams · 27/11/2022 21:05

I’m waiting to know why you think it’s ok for a company to change its working terms and conditions to a point people will not be able to afford to do the job. No choice of their own, they signed up to do a job but because of changes the company has made they will have to leave.

wildpeaches · 27/11/2022 21:06

Italiandreams · 27/11/2022 21:05

I’m waiting to know why you think it’s ok for a company to change its working terms and conditions to a point people will not be able to afford to do the job. No choice of their own, they signed up to do a job but because of changes the company has made they will have to leave.

Oh but the OP is not a mean or cold hearted person don't forget!

AttilaTheUOkHun · 27/11/2022 21:06

Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 20:36

Royal Mail haven’t covered themselves in glory here but neither have the union.

Neither have you.

Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 21:09

wildpeaches · 27/11/2022 21:06

Oh but the OP is not a mean or cold hearted person don't forget!

i didn’t come from a middle class family! I had a disadvantaged background! I have a lot of compassion and empathy

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Conkersareback · 27/11/2022 21:09

@Hitthehighseastoday but you answered the ones that suited you. Like I'm a bully because @LucilleLou said I was, you read all them?

So I'll ask again....

If your working hours were changed and you hadn't agreed to them, because you'd been promoted.

How would you feel if it meant you'd have to pay extra childcare?

If you're said your hours were 10-8 in winter. You got that sorted wit childcare and then I said it's summer, you'll do 9-3.

Do you think you'd be happy, do you think your CM would be happy? Do you think that I should chop and change CM, which may be difficult for my child?

listsandbudgets · 27/11/2022 21:11

I'm afraid I'd actually not noticed they were on strike. Our post seems to come in big batches a 2-3 times a week and it's been like that for a couple of years now. They were even worse during lockdown sometimes we were lucky if it came weekly. If it wasn't for the news I wouldn't even know they were striking because the service is always poor.

I'm miffed they've not managed ot deliver my mums birthday card yet though. It was sent 1st class on the 14th November. Perhaps it can double as her Christmas card.

7upandup · 27/11/2022 21:11

I can't find the pictures because of the volume of strike photos from every office in the country but here is also something he did to bribe people to stop striking...yet can't give people a decent pay rise!?

To think Royal Mail workers should not be striking
AttilaTheUOkHun · 27/11/2022 21:11

Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 20:54

Partner in a law firm. Care to provide your job title now?

Jumped the shark now, op.

Conkersareback · 27/11/2022 21:15

listsandbudgets · 27/11/2022 21:11

I'm afraid I'd actually not noticed they were on strike. Our post seems to come in big batches a 2-3 times a week and it's been like that for a couple of years now. They were even worse during lockdown sometimes we were lucky if it came weekly. If it wasn't for the news I wouldn't even know they were striking because the service is always poor.

I'm miffed they've not managed ot deliver my mums birthday card yet though. It was sent 1st class on the 14th November. Perhaps it can double as her Christmas card.

Yeah poor fuckers during lock down they worried shoulder to shoulder in sorting officers, the bloody bastards then got covid and transmitted it to their colleagues. Making delivery offices really undermanned!

They should've been bloody disciplined, possibly even even sacked for such shit behaviour!

wildpeaches · 27/11/2022 21:15

*I didn't come from a middle class family! I had a disadvantaged background! I have a lot of compassion and empathy
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What on earth are you on about?! Failing to see how this has any significance to you slagging off Royal Mail to be honest.

Conkersareback · 27/11/2022 21:16

wildpeaches · 27/11/2022 21:15

*I didn't come from a middle class family! I had a disadvantaged background! I have a lot of compassion and empathy
*
What on earth are you on about?! Failing to see how this has any significance to you slagging off Royal Mail to be honest.

Because she's a nice person!!! Not!

wildpeaches · 27/11/2022 21:21

'Partner in a law firm' cracks me up every time I see it re posted 🤣

Florenz · 27/11/2022 21:21

Italiandreams · 27/11/2022 21:05

I’m waiting to know why you think it’s ok for a company to change its working terms and conditions to a point people will not be able to afford to do the job. No choice of their own, they signed up to do a job but because of changes the company has made they will have to leave.

Do you think people should be able to start a job, agree to working terms and conditions and then the employer has no right to ever change these, no matter how long the employee works there?

Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 21:23

Conkersareback · 27/11/2022 21:09

@Hitthehighseastoday but you answered the ones that suited you. Like I'm a bully because @LucilleLou said I was, you read all them?

So I'll ask again....

If your working hours were changed and you hadn't agreed to them, because you'd been promoted.

How would you feel if it meant you'd have to pay extra childcare?

If you're said your hours were 10-8 in winter. You got that sorted wit childcare and then I said it's summer, you'll do 9-3.

Do you think you'd be happy, do you think your CM would be happy? Do you think that I should chop and change CM, which may be difficult for my child?

I don’t imagine the child minder would be happy. I also would want to know the exact reasons why work were changing my hours and I would evaluate if I’m agreeing to the new hours or resigning

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Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 21:24

Florenz · 27/11/2022 21:21

Do you think people should be able to start a job, agree to working terms and conditions and then the employer has no right to ever change these, no matter how long the employee works there?

This

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Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 21:25

Conkersareback · 27/11/2022 21:16

Because she's a nice person!!! Not!

Please explain in detail why you (wrongly) think I’m not a nice person

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Stillbrokenby2022 · 27/11/2022 21:25

wildpeaches · 27/11/2022 21:21

'Partner in a law firm' cracks me up every time I see it re posted 🤣

Yep me too.

FelicityFlops · 27/11/2022 21:25

Why not, after all they no longer work under the auspices of the monarch!

Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 21:26

wildpeaches · 27/11/2022 21:15

*I didn't come from a middle class family! I had a disadvantaged background! I have a lot of compassion and empathy
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What on earth are you on about?! Failing to see how this has any significance to you slagging off Royal Mail to be honest.

A poster a few pages back said people like me in “big” job’s apparently have no compassion with the average working man or woman and that we are cold hearted/mean, both of which are not true. I have compassion towards people of all backgrounds.

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Stillbrokenby2022 · 27/11/2022 21:28

Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 21:26

A poster a few pages back said people like me in “big” job’s apparently have no compassion with the average working man or woman and that we are cold hearted/mean, both of which are not true. I have compassion towards people of all backgrounds.

Unless they strike of course!

wildpeaches · 27/11/2022 21:29

@Florenz I believe any and all employees have the right to question why their working conditions and t's & c's are changing. I believe they have the right to point out the flaws and the immoral situations that will arise from these changes. I believe they have a right to do this without being told to piss off and 'find another job then'. I believe they have a right to negotiate with their employer to agree a suitable outcome for BOTH parties. That is NOT what is happening at Royal Mail though.

Hitthehighseastoday · 27/11/2022 21:30

Stillbrokenby2022 · 27/11/2022 21:28

Unless they strike of course!

don’t be ridiculous

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