I’d want to do the same - mother kills children’s abuser

[HermioneKipper]

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/sarah-sands-kill-sex-abuse-paedophile-b2231508.html

i think any parent would do the same if given the chance

I would not and I cannot condone taking the law into your own hands under any circumstances.

@FourTeaFallOut no - allegations of Satanic abuse in Hampstead a few years ago, where children had been coached to make allegations against their father and dozens of other people. It brought in other conspiracy theorists who then threatened violence against the people named, many of whom had nothing to do with anything.

I completely understand why she did it and I think it’s very wrong she now has to spend her life in prison.

Personally I would have moved away but not everyone has those resources to do that and desperate people do desperate things.

I voted YANBU because I think the urge to kill someone who harmed your kids in such a heinous way, is quite understandable. However I can’t imagine ever doing that, I won’t even kill the tiniest insect and believe strongly in not taking life intentionally. I can’t even bear to think of how tormented I would be though by the knowledge they had been sexually abused so I’m not judging her in the slightest, poor woman.

Yet here we are, living in a society where paedophiles go unpunished.

This lady has my full support.

I don’t blame her, I don’t know what id do in that situation but the guy deserved it for what he did.

I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often . I totally understand her actions and I think the legal process and sentencing is out of sync with public opinion .

Those poor boys. Abused then had to grow up without their mum. The only person not suffering is the one who deserves to.

? She wasn’t sentenced to life FFS. She served 7.5yrs for manslaughter. Which was a bit of lenience really as the justice system just decided to overlook the fact she went there with a knife intending to kill him. They agreed to buy a “out of control” and “only went to get an apology” defence.

I think it’s absolutely right she went to prison.

I can't get too upset about what she did, I don't think I could do it but she's made the world a better place.

Unfortunately when the law isn't very interested in protecting people then people start taking things into their own hands. It's really not ideal.

The only person not suffering is the one who deserves to

And, don't forget, all those who have been saved from becoming his victim.

If she served 8 years for manslaughter that seems about right, I wasn't sure if she had been sentenced or what.

I agree. All this violence and hatred just simmering under a veneer.

Hardly surprising when this forum is made up of mothers.
Sex offenders - Paedophiles- are the lowest of the low and absolutely destroy children’s lives.
One less paedophile ( This was a serial offender) about is good news for the other children he would doubtless have targeted.
Chemical castration or life in jail should be the only options for a seasoned nonce.

That’s what a permissive attitude towards vigilante justice invariably leads to though- innocent normal people killed in the streets.

I don’t know why so many people on this thread are holding up this woman’s actions as anything positive.
She was sent to prison for years. Her young boys were abused which is already awful and life altering and then instead of being there for them she spends the rest of their formative years in prison which was completely avoidable.
What did she achieve by killing this man other than destroying her own children’s lives even more?

Well, the only vigilante I know did time for his violence and went on to threaten me (completely unrelated, he's just violent, nothing admirable).

That’s the issue with vigilantism isn’t it. It attracts people who already have violent tendencies and gives them what they feel is a moral justification for violence.

If there had been justice that man would have still be in prison and not free to abuse those boys.

Instead we get the SOTP which doesn't work, release them on license to offend again. Meanwhile there is a concerted effort to re-label these monsters as Minor Attracted People or MAPs.

Yes, the identity arseholes are pushing for this to be a recognised sexuality.

Men will always push to get access to women and children to abuse them. They have become priests, teachers, coaches to do that.

I can absolutely see why that woman did what she did, society,
Politics and the legal system are utterly failing to protect our kids from predators both online and in real life.

A veneer of what? Not wanting it to be legal for men to rape and abuse children?

The ‘hatred and violence’ is anger and fear. When you know men can do almost anything and get away with it. They can even rape your kids then smirk at you from across the road the day after you report it. It isn’t ‘hatred and violence’ it’s a justifiable anger at a system that’s letting us down.

I wonder if those apologists for paedophiles would feel differently if they have seen the emotional damage wrought by these vile perps?

I watched the video on iplayer about this, what happened to her children was truly awful and them deciding to release him on bail to his home address which was opposite where they lived was a terrible decision given what he had done. BUT personally I cant condone what she did, I have 3 young children myself and I can't even contemplate how she felt, but I just don't think I'd be capable of such a thing. To murder anyone in such a cold blooded way you would surely have some sort of background where violence featured/have some sort of mental illness? I just couldn't do this, not just on a moral level, but I wouldn't have it in me to take someone else's life. She was charged with manslaughter, how she managed that when she set out with a knife is beyond me and she didn't call for help after she'd done it, definite intent to murder. She was lucky to only get 7 years.

Longer prison sentences are needed for the sexual abusers and no bail offered when they are arrested, the system did fail her and her children, but what she did was very wrong and deserved a prison sentence.

This is not how a civilized society behaves.

A civilized society protects the vulnerable. This man had 24 previous convictions for harming children. He should have been under lock and key for the rest of his life, not out in the community, living under an assumed name and free to reoffend.

If the state does not enforce the law, appropriately punishing wrong-doers and protecting the vulnerable, others will take matters into their own hands. Justice has been served.

I can't see where it says in the article how long she had known him before the abuse of her children started or came to light. Groomers are patient.

I can understand the desire to comfort yourself with the thought that you are savvy enough to protect your own children from groomers but unless you never let them out of your sight that will be very difficult to do with 100% certainty. I hope your arrogance never comes back to bite you.

The least we can do is make sure that sexual predators who have already been convicted can never change their name to hide their past. Scotland is about to make it even easier for sexual predators to do this by allowing people to self declare a new gender identity and obtain new identity documents with absolutely no safeguards in place. The Scottish Parliament are relying on offenders to inform the police about their new identity even though they have been warned (and rejected and amendment to introduce safeguards) about the pitfalls of this decision. Good luck Scotland.

I do agree with this though. About 99.9% of vigilantes are just thugs who have found justifiable targets. But I think this case is an exception - she isn’t one of those ‘vigilantes’ you see online or similar. She’s a victim of this man who took it into her own hands, not a bloodthirsty thug looking for violence.

What did she achieve by killing this man other than destroying her own children’s lives even more

She have her children the peace of mind that their abuser was unable to harm them again.

That her children would not have to face their abuser in court and be called liars while detailing their abuse.

That they wouldn’t have to see him in the street.

That other children were spared from his prolific offending.

So quite a lot actually.