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Not allowed siblings at my sons nativity play .. including my breast fed baby??

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WinnieLovett · 23/11/2022 16:28

My daughter is 4 months old and breastfeeding.

My two other sons are involved in the school nativity play. The school will be having two performers one at 2:30 and one at 7:00.

I have been informed that the school has a ‘no sibling rule’ to watching so I will not be allowed to bring my daughter. The issue is these times are both when she has milk.

I was also told by the head that she may make noise and interrupt the performance !!

Really sad as I don’t want to miss it ! But do not feel happy leaving my baby at these times!

OP posts:
FatGirlSwim · 23/11/2022 23:02

SirMingeALot · 23/11/2022 23:01

You don't understand the Equality Act then. It doesn't give you rights you wouldn't otherwise have if you weren't breastfeeding, and there's no right to take a baby into a school nativity.

I understand it well, thank you, it’s literally my job!

DuplicateUserName · 23/11/2022 23:03

FatGirlSwim · 23/11/2022 22:57

The younger ones have never disturbed the performance. The disturbance is usually parents jumping about to take pictures and record on mobile phones.

The younger ones have never disturbed a performance whilst you've been there. That doesn't mean it's never happened and it doesn't mean it doesn't happen in other schools.

Most schools also prevent parents from taking photos anyway.

And it's not all about disturbing the performance. With schools adding more and more classes, it's also about fire safety regs and maximum capacity.

In some schools there's simply not enough room to accommodate siblings.

FatGirlSwim · 23/11/2022 23:03

It has everything to do with breastfeeding because a breastfed baby needs to be with mum.

SirMingeALot · 23/11/2022 23:03

FatGirlSwim · 23/11/2022 23:02

I understand it well, thank you, it’s literally my job!

Funny that the equality lawyer upthread disagreed.

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 23/11/2022 23:04

FatGirlSwim · 23/11/2022 23:01

They are, actually. Legally, they are allowed.

You obviously don't understand the Act. It is legal, in fact for fire and safety reasons, to keep numbers to a minimum. And you are yet another example of how it is always the selfish mothers that are the ones that want their baby to destroy it for everyone else.

TheKeatingFive · 23/11/2022 23:05

I believe there are designated adult spaces where you could not take a baby and are exempt from the legals. I cannot see how this would apply to a primary school.

RamsayEaster · 23/11/2022 23:06

Legal or not I don’t understand why you would want to disturb a nativity play by taking the baby

Someone help me understand lol

DuplicateUserName · 23/11/2022 23:06

FatGirlSwim · 23/11/2022 23:01

They are, actually. Legally, they are allowed.

They are not allowed into the Nativity play.

Do you not understand that? It's literally the whole point of the thread. Not just breastfeeding babies, but all babies and children who are not taking part.

That's not discrimination against breastfeeding mothers. If what you say is true that it's 'literally your job', I'm gobsmacked that you have such little understanding of something so simple.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 23/11/2022 23:07

DuplicateUserName · 23/11/2022 22:59

Mothers are allowed to breastfeed their babies in places that the mother and baby are allowed to be.

In this case the baby is not allowed to be there.

Exactly!

Ineedcoffee2021 · 23/11/2022 23:08

Your being selfish OP
Feed the baby early or dont go - breastfeeding isnt a free pass to have your own way every time - you chose to BF, you chose to have more kids, YOU sort out the logistics of needing to be in 2 places at once.

My daughters awards night was ruined by one parent who refused to take out their unsettled toddler - squealing, crying on and off all night but not once did the kid get taken out
I HOPE they ban siblings next year - hell i may even suggest it to the school

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 23/11/2022 23:08

RamsayEaster · 23/11/2022 23:06

Legal or not I don’t understand why you would want to disturb a nativity play by taking the baby

Someone help me understand lol

Civilized people would not want to do that. The entitled and self-absorbed have no problem with ruining others' experience.

DuplicateUserName · 23/11/2022 23:08

TheKeatingFive · 23/11/2022 23:05

I believe there are designated adult spaces where you could not take a baby and are exempt from the legals. I cannot see how this would apply to a primary school.

It wouldn't apply to the primary school if babies and other non performing children were allowed to be there in the first place.

Allowed to be there = Allowed to breastfeed.

TheKeatingFive · 23/11/2022 23:10

It wouldn't apply to the primary school if babies and other non performing children were allowed to be there in the first place.

The distinction would be a legally designated adult space versus a (fairly arbitrary) rule about no sibling, applied for an hour. To my mind at least.

RamsayEaster · 23/11/2022 23:12

@ZeldaWillTellYourFortune

Well said

DuplicateUserName · 23/11/2022 23:13

TheKeatingFive · 23/11/2022 23:10

It wouldn't apply to the primary school if babies and other non performing children were allowed to be there in the first place.

The distinction would be a legally designated adult space versus a (fairly arbitrary) rule about no sibling, applied for an hour. To my mind at least.

But your mind isn't the law and that's what's being discussed here.

What's fairly arbitrary about maximum capacity fire regulations?

What's fairly arbitrary about children who have worked hard for weeks, having their performance disturbed?

runlittlemonster · 23/11/2022 23:19

Time to get pumping!

TheKeatingFive · 23/11/2022 23:23

What's fairly arbitrary about maximum capacity fire regulations?

That's not about a baby though, that's about numbers.

What's fairly arbitrary about children who have worked hard for weeks, having their performance disturbed?

I doubt that's relevant to the legals

I'm not a lawyer, but my understanding of the right to BF is that the places that are exempt are adult designated spaces (for example child free areas of gyms). I just don't see how that could apply to a school, personally 🤷‍♀️

OP, I'm sure there's info online which could help you understand the legal position further. There's a lot of, um, ire on this thread. You'll get more clarity elsewhere.

Tiani4 · 23/11/2022 23:26

Omg it's a baby
A bf baby
I have 3 DCs, got abandoned by my now ex H early on even when wee were married, and my primary school has never excluded me

Babies don't often cry as you can't feed or calm them or take them out. Utterly ridiculous that a primary school os making untenable riles. Op ofc isn't selfish she just wants to see her primary aged child at this event

Jess the entitlement from PPs in this thread!

Tiani4 · 23/11/2022 23:26

Can not can't! Lolz

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 23/11/2022 23:27

Tiani4 · 23/11/2022 23:26

Omg it's a baby
A bf baby
I have 3 DCs, got abandoned by my now ex H early on even when wee were married, and my primary school has never excluded me

Babies don't often cry as you can't feed or calm them or take them out. Utterly ridiculous that a primary school os making untenable riles. Op ofc isn't selfish she just wants to see her primary aged child at this event

Jess the entitlement from PPs in this thread!

Other parents also want to see and to hear their child, the level of entitlement of parents who only think of themselves and bring crying babies to events like this is off the charts!

RamsayEaster · 23/11/2022 23:30

@Tiani4

I think everyone understands OP wants to watch her children but so does every other parent and watch the nativity in peace not to be interrupted by a 4 month old or the mother trying to settle them

CloudyYellow · 23/11/2022 23:31

WinnieLovett · 23/11/2022 16:35

I could do this but she is not happy usually at these times. I may try and do a test run to see how she is and if I can leave her. My husband can attend the evening to at least he will see it.
i feel that in this day and age I shouldn’t be put in this position.

Why do you think you have the right to potentially ruin the play if your baby cries?

You sound like hard work.

CloudyYellow · 23/11/2022 23:32

In my experience parents of crying babies rarely leave the hall.

DuplicateUserName · 23/11/2022 23:38

@TheKeatingFive your understanding is wrong.

A mother is allowed to breastfeed (as long as it's safe to do so) anywhere that she and her baby are allowed to be, and in this case the baby is not allowed to be there.

Just like I couldn't march into a nightclub with a baby and demand they let us in as it's breastfed.

Ditto trying to march into anywhere that babies aren't allowed.

TheKeatingFive · 23/11/2022 23:43

your understanding is wrong.

I can't say one way or the other. However if the OP wants clarity on the legals I'm suggesting she look outside of this thread. It's a topic that seems to generate a lot of heat on here.

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