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Friend was rude and ungrateful

145 replies

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 00:34

I was going out with 2 friends the other night. One of them asked for a lift there and back which would mean going slightly out of our way. My husband was dropping me off and picking up afterwards. It was no problem doing this and my husband didn't mind.

We set off and it was an extremely cold night so my husband had the heating on in the car. She got in and complained it was very warm. My husband apologises and turns the heating off and tells her she can open the window if she likes. She opened the window and I thought that would be the end of it.

She got out of the car and complained about the heat in the car on regular occasions during the night. She mentioned it to my other friend when she showed up. When I text my husband to be collected he set off straight away and she complained about how long he took. I could tell by how long it took him to get to us that he definitely set off straight after I text him. AIBU that I thought she was rude and ungrateful.

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snowbellsxox · 21/11/2022 11:40

Maybe she fancies your husband lol

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 11:44

@ReneBumsWombats
My husband says he recognises that I allow bad behaviour in the beginning of a friendship. I let little things go and when it's really bad and I call the person out it's too late. They look at me with wide eyes asking what the fuck is my problem.

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DuplicateUserName · 21/11/2022 11:44

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 10:50

I do think I need to recognise bad behaviour earlier than I do.

Yes because you said this happened 'the other night'. So at least 48 hours had passed before you started this thread, asking if you were being unreasonable to think she was rude and ungrateful Confused

It's confusing that someone so assertive still wouldn't recognise obviously bad behaviour days later.

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 11:48

DuplicateUserName · 21/11/2022 11:44

Yes because you said this happened 'the other night'. So at least 48 hours had passed before you started this thread, asking if you were being unreasonable to think she was rude and ungrateful Confused

It's confusing that someone so assertive still wouldn't recognise obviously bad behaviour days later.

I recognised the bad behaviour immediately though and that's why I called her out on it on the night. I went home and spoke to my husband about both incidents.

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DuplicateUserName · 21/11/2022 11:51

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 11:48

I recognised the bad behaviour immediately though and that's why I called her out on it on the night. I went home and spoke to my husband about both incidents.

AIBU that I thought she was rude and ungrateful.

I don't understand why you're asking that ^^ then if you recognised it?

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/11/2022 11:55

Some people have trauma free childhoods. Others brush everyone’s pain aside as it is too difficult to hear as they are suffering greatly themselves.

I have a friend like this. She has had such a sheltered, privileged life and is only able to understand / empathise with people, who have issues or ailments she or her family have suffered. I don’t talk about my life as she doesn’t offer any empathy or understanding. If I got covid, she’d be rather concerned because she gets that. Chronic illness, major surgeries and a violent sibling and more besides, not so much.

CuriousMama · 21/11/2022 11:57

If these people can't take criticism you're well rid. I'm not always 'good' neither are my friends. But we love each other and will call each other out. Most likely apologise for being a knob and carry on. If you need to walk on eggshells with people they aren't friends anyway.
One of my closest friends can be awful when drunk. I've walked away from her before. She does apologise. But she's been dreadful when out with others and thinks they have the problem. Recently I was very direct with her and said she changes personality when drunk. She can be abusive. Last few times we've been out she's reigned it in. Hopefully she's heard me? 🤞 She's an amazing person but past issues rear their ugly head. Plus she isn't in the best of health.

CuriousMama · 21/11/2022 11:59

DuplicateUserName · 21/11/2022 11:51

AIBU that I thought she was rude and ungrateful.

I don't understand why you're asking that ^^ then if you recognised it?

Sometimes it's good to hear we're right and get feedback. Even when we know we are.

willingtolearn · 21/11/2022 12:00

She would not have got back in the car again unless to issue an apology to my husband that's for certain.

You should have shut her down straight away - "Doris, you have said twice now about the heat in the car. It was a favour to pick you up. I suggest you take a taxi home"

And if she hadn't immediately apologised - taxi home for her (paid by her of course)

Would you let a child act like that? Why let an adult?

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 12:02

DuplicateUserName · 21/11/2022 11:51

AIBU that I thought she was rude and ungrateful.

I don't understand why you're asking that ^^ then if you recognised it?

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Because I have spent my whole fucking life being told I am the unreasonable person when I think behaviour like this is unacceptable and call people out on it.

@DuplicateUserName
Does the above answer your question? I explained previously.

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DuplicateUserName · 21/11/2022 12:04

CuriousMama · 21/11/2022 11:59

Sometimes it's good to hear we're right and get feedback. Even when we know we are.

I can definitely understand that but that's not the case here according to the OP.

When she started the thread she said she thought she was being oversensitive.

Yet the behaviour she describes is very very obviously rude and ungrateful.

DuplicateUserName · 21/11/2022 12:06

Cross posted OP

I give up then because you're saying you recognised it and then you're saying you didn't because you thought you were being oversensitive.

Anyway, I hope you've got what you wanted from this thread. Trust your instincts and cut the silly acquaintance from your life.

Schnooze · 21/11/2022 12:12

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 11:44

@ReneBumsWombats
My husband says he recognises that I allow bad behaviour in the beginning of a friendship. I let little things go and when it's really bad and I call the person out it's too late. They look at me with wide eyes asking what the fuck is my problem.

i think this is the crux of it. You need to say something immediately. You can mildly pull them up, rather than going in guns blazing, but you do need a mild comment or two to make your point.

These particular ones sound very insensitive though. I don’t think it’s you. It’s them.

CuriousMama · 21/11/2022 12:14

DuplicateUserName · 21/11/2022 12:04

I can definitely understand that but that's not the case here according to the OP.

When she started the thread she said she thought she was being oversensitive.

Yet the behaviour she describes is very very obviously rude and ungrateful.

Probably because OP finds it hard to make friends so needs validation she isn't being a cunt? I don't know but as long as she's getting something from this thread then no harm done. Loneliness is dreadful. I do all I can to help people who are lonely. Too outing to say what I do

CuriousMama · 21/11/2022 12:17

Schnooze · 21/11/2022 12:12

i think this is the crux of it. You need to say something immediately. You can mildly pull them up, rather than going in guns blazing, but you do need a mild comment or two to make your point.

These particular ones sound very insensitive though. I don’t think it’s you. It’s them.

Yes I'd have said in the car at the time. It can fester otherwise and you want to punch them.

ReneBumsWombats · 21/11/2022 12:20

Because I have spent my whole fucking life being told I am the unreasonable person when I think behaviour like this is unacceptable and call people out on it.

From what I gather, you let it go at first and then tackle it with "bad delivery" once it hits your limit. I'm not excusing bad behaviour, but I can see why someone would not react well when they've never been told anything is amiss and then someone comes in all guns blazing and has apparently been stewing on it for ages. I wouldn't respond well to that and I may well end the friendship because what's the point if they can't communicate with me?

Sure, ideally we would all always know already and would never need to be told we were being unreasonable, but I don't think many people are that near perfect.

CuriousMama · 21/11/2022 12:51

Sure, ideally we would all always know already and would never need to be told we were being unreasonable, but I don't think many people are that near perfect.

Don't know about you but most people who appear perfect are often two faced. My ds2 (adult) and one of my closest friends are the exception. Not a bad bone. I feel like malificent sometimes next to her 😂. She's bad in other ways but never to others.

CuriousMama · 21/11/2022 12:53

I didn't mean for it all to be bold 🙈

IncompleteSenten · 21/11/2022 12:54

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 08:48

I do call people out on things.
It's not angry or passive aggressive but very direct. That's why I have no friends. I spent the night calling them out on stuff. It can get tiring and I just wanted a bloody fun night out.

You have no friends because you socialise with people you feel the need to "call out".

You need to know that most people don't have that with their friends.

If you are having to "call out" everyone you socialise with at some point then something has to change because this is not what a friend is. Friendships aren't supposed to be hard work, hurt feelings and (ultimately) confrontation. Take a step back and look at the situation. What is going on?

It's better to accept you have no friends and work on that than grab onto people just for the sake of company.

BobbyBobbyBobby · 21/11/2022 12:59

Apologies op, I didn’t realise you had taken them to task.

RoachPussy · 21/11/2022 17:02

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 08:26

Ok so when she complained, I asked what temperature she would like the car to be on the way home and I'll text my husband to let him know. She got all flustered and said not to say anything to him about her complaints.

In relation to hot flushes, that's another story from the night. I am on HRT and my other friends aren't. They had a conversation on how they think people are exaggerating about it all as they are perfectly fine. In fact they both made me feel shit about taking HRT. They're both sick of hearing about it all.

I had a pretty awful childhood with stuff and a really awful family. Other friend said that she can't understand how people can't just get over stuff. She thinks it's a personality make up that they can't just get on with things. I told her on a number of occasions that I was sexually assaulted as a child but she still says this.

Also I know I said friends but they are people I used to work with and I stay in touch. They are really not friends. In fact I don't have any friends. I just find that anytime I try to make friends and go out that people are just so unpleasant, like the other night. I wfh since lockdown and have no friends and it can get lonely.

I got home the other night and my lovely husband was a great support. The whole night upset me. Especially the other person making me feel weak for not just getting over a traumatic past. Believe me, I don't dwell on it. I got counselling and I am doing well.

I am not a weak person but sometimes get tired of having to constantly stand up for myself. I am cutting contact with both of them but now feel I have absolutely no one besides my lovely husband and daughter. I just wish people could be more in tune with other people's feelings.

Apologies for the rant.

Good for you OP you don’t need fake friends like these. You have a supportive DH who sounds lovely and I’m sure you will find like minded friends in time rather than your ex colleagues who have zero empathy, tact or manners.

Everyflippingusernameistaken · 22/11/2022 17:56

Don't bother with them then!

JackieLou · 22/11/2022 18:11

We are So sorry that the temperature in the car was not to your standards and sincere apologies for the length of time it took for your car to arrive. Would you like a refund?
Oh wait that’s right you didn’t pay for a taxi, or offer us petrol money, or even say thank you….

I suggest next time she walks!

Hmm1234 · 22/11/2022 18:28

Needing to open the car door a few times during the trip? What did she have a coke!?

Rosie22xx · 22/11/2022 18:58

THAT is not a friend. Cut off that negative energy girl!