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Friend was rude and ungrateful

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Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 00:34

I was going out with 2 friends the other night. One of them asked for a lift there and back which would mean going slightly out of our way. My husband was dropping me off and picking up afterwards. It was no problem doing this and my husband didn't mind.

We set off and it was an extremely cold night so my husband had the heating on in the car. She got in and complained it was very warm. My husband apologises and turns the heating off and tells her she can open the window if she likes. She opened the window and I thought that would be the end of it.

She got out of the car and complained about the heat in the car on regular occasions during the night. She mentioned it to my other friend when she showed up. When I text my husband to be collected he set off straight away and she complained about how long he took. I could tell by how long it took him to get to us that he definitely set off straight after I text him. AIBU that I thought she was rude and ungrateful.

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Beadpark · 21/11/2022 10:34

I had a friend like this. Late when I was picking her up. Moaning about the state of my car. Having to be prodded to contribute to fuel. One night when she moaned that she didn't want to leave a pub and wandered off to get another drink I just got up, walked out and drove home without her.
Never did find out how she got home. I deleted her voicemail messages the morning after and never heard from her again.

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 10:35

Iknowthis1 · 21/11/2022 10:20

Given that everyone upset you that night it could be that you are being overly sensitive and your version of events is a bit skewed. Alternatively it could be that they weren't being very nice. We have no way of knowing which it is. The only way you can know is to raise it with your friends. If you're considering finding new friends anyway you've got nothing to lose.

I don't think I was overly sensitive about the car thing - pissed off yes. I was overly sensitive about the other person saying people should just get over when bad things happen them. I apologise that I came from a terrible childhood, narcissistic Mother, abused by 2 different men and that's just a very small number of things that happened to me. She thinks you must be weak if you just can't get on with things and require counselling. She also knows some of what I have been through. May I also say that it was only 2 people I was out with, not a large group of women that I had problems with.

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Namechangehereandnow · 21/11/2022 10:37

You have shit immature friends.
You and dh are being unreasonable for pandering to her behaviour 🤷‍♀️
If it were me -
Friend - it’s too hot in this car
Me/dh - give over, it’s freezing out
END OF!
No idea what your dh was thinking of saying she could open a window Confused … stop trying to please everyone else, look after yourself!

CuriousMama · 21/11/2022 10:41

So other friend thinks you're weak? Are you sure they're friends and not just acquaintances? I hope she doesn't have dcs with that attitude.

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 10:42

CuriousMama · 21/11/2022 10:29

Does your dd have plenty of friends? Is she anything like you personality wise?

And what do you think my personality is @CuriousMama. My daughter has loads of friends and is very assertive. She is definitely not as direct as me and more diplomatic like her Dad. She is a very kind lovely person. When her friends have something going on in their lives they tend to confide in her.

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DuplicateUserName · 21/11/2022 10:43

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 10:27

I can assure you that myself and my husband are extremely assertive. I am a little too direct with it and my husband would be a bit more diplomatic. I have no friends because I call out bad behaviour. I just won't accept myself and in particular other people being treated badly. I called both these people out on what they said on the night. They looked at me like I had 2 heads and that I was unreasonable.

But as this thread proves, you very much need help in recognising bad behaviour.

If you can't recognise it, how can you call it out?

CuriousMama · 21/11/2022 10:44

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 10:42

And what do you think my personality is @CuriousMama. My daughter has loads of friends and is very assertive. She is definitely not as direct as me and more diplomatic like her Dad. She is a very kind lovely person. When her friends have something going on in their lives they tend to confide in her.

I don't know what your personality is like apart from how you are coming across here? You know your personality though.
I was trying to help you but I'm off. Good luck you'll need it.

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 10:47

CuriousMama · 21/11/2022 10:41

So other friend thinks you're weak? Are you sure they're friends and not just acquaintances? I hope she doesn't have dcs with that attitude.

I did say further up thread that they were not really friends and that I don't have any friends due to not accepting bad behaviour from people.

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Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 10:50

DuplicateUserName · 21/11/2022 10:43

But as this thread proves, you very much need help in recognising bad behaviour.

If you can't recognise it, how can you call it out?

I do think I need to recognise bad behaviour earlier than I do.

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debwong · 21/11/2022 10:51

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 08:26

Ok so when she complained, I asked what temperature she would like the car to be on the way home and I'll text my husband to let him know. She got all flustered and said not to say anything to him about her complaints.

In relation to hot flushes, that's another story from the night. I am on HRT and my other friends aren't. They had a conversation on how they think people are exaggerating about it all as they are perfectly fine. In fact they both made me feel shit about taking HRT. They're both sick of hearing about it all.

I had a pretty awful childhood with stuff and a really awful family. Other friend said that she can't understand how people can't just get over stuff. She thinks it's a personality make up that they can't just get on with things. I told her on a number of occasions that I was sexually assaulted as a child but she still says this.

Also I know I said friends but they are people I used to work with and I stay in touch. They are really not friends. In fact I don't have any friends. I just find that anytime I try to make friends and go out that people are just so unpleasant, like the other night. I wfh since lockdown and have no friends and it can get lonely.

I got home the other night and my lovely husband was a great support. The whole night upset me. Especially the other person making me feel weak for not just getting over a traumatic past. Believe me, I don't dwell on it. I got counselling and I am doing well.

I am not a weak person but sometimes get tired of having to constantly stand up for myself. I am cutting contact with both of them but now feel I have absolutely no one besides my lovely husband and daughter. I just wish people could be more in tune with other people's feelings.

Apologies for the rant.

That's not a rant, it's very reasonable. I hear you.

ReneBumsWombats · 21/11/2022 10:51

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 10:27

I can assure you that myself and my husband are extremely assertive. I am a little too direct with it and my husband would be a bit more diplomatic. I have no friends because I call out bad behaviour. I just won't accept myself and in particular other people being treated badly. I called both these people out on what they said on the night. They looked at me like I had 2 heads and that I was unreasonable.

I can assure you that myself and my husband are extremely assertive. I am a little too direct with it

Then why are you asking us about this incident and why didn't you say anything at the time?

girlmom21 · 21/11/2022 10:53

Then why are you asking us about this incident and why didn't you say anything at the time?

She's already said she did speak up but also doesn't want to risk losing the few acquaintances she does have because she likes the occasional night out

ReneBumsWombats · 21/11/2022 10:56

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 10:47

I did say further up thread that they were not really friends and that I don't have any friends due to not accepting bad behaviour from people.

Ok...I think something is up here.

From your perspective, you are very assertive, maybe too much so...yet you didn't tackle this incident when it happened and instead you came on here to ask about it. And in addition to this, you say you have no friends and the reason is because you are so assertive and don't take any bad behaviour from people. Despite not showing any assertiveness here and indeed asking us if we think you overreacted.

I don't know exactly what's happening, but I do suspect that your perspective of both yourself and other people may not be entirely accurate. Most people can maintain friendships without consistently being treated badly.

Something simply doesn't add up.

mam0918 · 21/11/2022 10:58

girlmom21 · 21/11/2022 10:15

So what's the excuse with her complaining about how long OP's partner took to collect them?

part 2 as clearly listed, the whole shared experiance given it something they are doing TOGETHER... it might have been tonedeaf but to take it personally is bizaare.

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 10:59

CuriousMama · 21/11/2022 10:44

I don't know what your personality is like apart from how you are coming across here? You know your personality though.
I was trying to help you but I'm off. Good luck you'll need it.

I'm sorry @CuriousMama if I came across as ungrateful myself for the advice.

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girlmom21 · 21/11/2022 11:00

@mam0918 sorry I don't understand that post at all. Can you please rephrase it?

CuriousMama · 21/11/2022 11:04

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 10:59

I'm sorry @CuriousMama if I came across as ungrateful myself for the advice.

Actually I was reflecting and think you may have thought I was attacking you and your dd's personalities. I wasn't at all. Quite the opposite. I was meaning if she has your directness and has managed to make friends then there's hope. Just didn't come across like that 🙂
I'm direct myself. I'm more tactful than I used to be but still manage to make people gasp. Meh 😉 I have plenty of friends so if they can't hack it then go find yourself a people pleaser.
I think you just need to find your people.

mam0918 · 21/11/2022 11:04

girlmom21 · 21/11/2022 11:00

@mam0918 sorry I don't understand that post at all. Can you please rephrase it?

When waiting for something its common in Britian to make small talk about the wait being too long. It would not be unusual to moan to the friend you are waiting with about a bus, taxi, to be called for an appointment, in a long line etc... taking 'too long', people do it as its a shared moment to bond over.

Tonedeaf purely because it was a personal life by OP boyfriend but not out of ordinary actions when waiting for something in general.

mam0918 · 21/11/2022 11:05
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girlmom21 · 21/11/2022 11:06

@mam0918 ah fair enough - very fair and valid point. Thank you!

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 11:08

I dont know why people dont RTT, I have said numerous times that I addressed both incidences. In relation to people asking what the 2nd incident was, I did say that too. If you want to click on see all posts it may answer peoples repetitive questions or assumptions that I did nothing about these situations.

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DrManhattan · 21/11/2022 11:09

I wonder what the thought process is when people moan when someone helps them out with a favour. Dont they realise that no one will help them the next time?

Blueroses99 · 21/11/2022 11:12

I had a pretty awful childhood with stuff and a really awful family. Other friend said that she can't understand how people can't just get over stuff. She thinks it's a personality make up that they can't just get on with things. I told her on a number of occasions that I was sexually assaulted as a child but she still says this.

Sound like this ‘friend’ is speaking from the privileged position of a trauma-free childhood. What happened to empathy?!

ReneBumsWombats · 21/11/2022 11:34

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 11:08

I dont know why people dont RTT, I have said numerous times that I addressed both incidences. In relation to people asking what the 2nd incident was, I did say that too. If you want to click on see all posts it may answer peoples repetitive questions or assumptions that I did nothing about these situations.

I did do a "see all" on your posts but I obviously missed that, sorry.

I do still think something is not adding up with regards to you having no friends because you're so good at not taking bad behaviour, though. Most people maintain friendships without being treated badly.

Theblacksheepandme · 21/11/2022 11:38

ReneBumsWombats · 21/11/2022 11:34

I did do a "see all" on your posts but I obviously missed that, sorry.

I do still think something is not adding up with regards to you having no friends because you're so good at not taking bad behaviour, though. Most people maintain friendships without being treated badly.

A boss who I once had said my delivery is appalling. He said that I am right in calling the person out, but how I do it is shite. I'm trying to improve on my delivery.

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