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To upend my settled family because I’m unhappy in the middle of rural nowhere?

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OpheliaPlum · 19/11/2022 06:33

We live in a rural area. Lovely house, space, big garden. No public transport, no shops, no amenities basically, and fast country roads with no pavements so we have to drive to get anywhere. We moved here 8 years ago because of DH’s then job and a lovely primary in the next village. I work in a creative industry and there is a shared workspace I drive to. I used to WFH but became so isolated in lockdowns after lockdowns I found a place to work alongside others, but it’s not an office, but shared space for freelance artists etc.

My eldest DC has just transferred to secondary school in September. We all wake at 6am every day and I drive DH to the station and the DC to their schools. Since the secondary transfer, I spend 16 hours every week on school runs. There is a Bus eldest DC could get but it is a 10 min drive from home (impossible to walk, country lanes, 70mph speed limits, no pavements) and in the opposite direction to the station and primary school. From the primary school there’s a backroad to the secondary so it makes sense for me to drive. At weekends my DC have different activities in different places and understandably want to see friends. My DH and I spend a lot of the weekend driving and hanging about in locations far from home. We do this separately so the other can get on with the endless laundry, maintaining the garden, all very practical, but increasingly we have very limited family time.

This June my DH got a new job so we don’t need to be in this area for his work any more. During covid I started doing some online uni teaching of my work. I visited the place I was teaching at in the summer for the first time in person and taught a special summer school. I felt so alive and connected to like minded people and it made me realise how isolated I am in the countryside.

There is a fixed term 3 year contract coming up at the uni. There is a possibility of a permanent job after that but the HE sector seems to be imploding and I am not sure how realistic the permanent contact would be. It would be 2 days teaching and studio space for my own creative practice. It is 3 hours from where we live.

My DH commutes to an office but has said he could transfer to work close to that town or change to a role with more WFH. He has very specialised skills and works in an industry that exists everywhere (like for an energy company, but not quite that).

I’d really like to apply for this job and if I get it, move the family. My children are adamant they do not want to leave. My eldest says he has just done secondary transfer, loves his new school, tells me I can move when the DC are all grown up. My younger DC love the countryside. We have a big garden, a dog, ducks, rabbits, and they love that life. I feel very selfish but also can’t get the fantasy of living in a buzzing town, being able to share my passion with the next generation, even walk to a cafe out of my head. I feel very tied to driving children everywhere and am under so much time pressure since the secondary transfer that it’s brought me to tears. It feels very melodramatic but I feel as if my needs have become crushed living here.

The deadline to apply is very soon. It isn’t a common opportunity at all, but I’m really not sure what to do as it is potentially just a three year role. I can imagine living in the town when the role comes to an end and my DH and I could both work from there. Also we don’t have any family close to where we live now but can visit family either side within a couple of hours. If we move it would be a half day journey to visit family.

Please help me think this through.

OP posts:
ivykaty44 · 19/11/2022 10:33

There is no way I would want to be doing 16 hours in a car over 5 days taking dc to school.

Thats why I live in a small town and have organised my life so I don't need to drive, most of the time. Schools, hairdressers, coffee shops, supermarkets (4) are all within walking distance.

not sure about your teen telling you when you can and can't move

Madcats · 19/11/2022 10:34

What children want at 8-11 is very different to how they behave aged 14/15/16. DD(15) goes to a school with a catchment area of about 10 miles (and some school buses). The kids who can't walk to school/catch regular public transport really do have to think twice about committing to clubs and sports etc. I'd save rural living for the school holidays (but maybe I am selfish).

One parent (farmer) regularly clocks up 25,000 miles/year ferrying her 4 kids about. The amount of time she has to spend sat in the car waiting for them all to drift out of school and then having to kill time in town whilst another does an after school activity or fixture. It's madness.

Children need to develop independence, which is tricky if they are ferried everywhere. DD(15) has been popping into shops to pick up sweets groceries and jumping on buses and trains for several years. It is second nature to her and her friends. She is streetsafe/aware after years of walking home in the dark with her parents. She anticipates drivers on busy roads. I wouldn't like to send her off to Uni in a couple of years time without those skills.

Friendship groups change a lot at secondary school - move the children now before they hit those tricky teen years.

MustardCress · 19/11/2022 10:34

maddening · 19/11/2022 07:47

And once they are teens they will thank you

Depends on their likes and hobbies though doesn’t it? Plenty of children like countryside hobbies and wouldn’t want to live in a city.

Also factor in whether a move would increase their exposure to drugs etc.

I think what is most important OP is that you aren’t frequently bringing it up with the kids while you make a decision. That would be very destabilising.

honeylulu · 19/11/2022 10:36

Go for it. Your kids love rural life right now but I expect they will change their view once they are older and want to hang out with friends but can't do anything without mum or dad taxiing them around. Being able to walk to a mate's house or jump on a bus into town can be so important to teens.
Make the move now if you can. Sounds like your husband is on board.

I would hate to live somewhere I could not get anywhere except by driving. I do drive but I love having the option of walking to town centre (15-20 mins) or catching a train or bus (5 min walk to station/bus stop). It must feel so claustrophobic relying on your car so much. What would you do if you broke your leg? Or the car breaks down?

Runnerduck34 · 19/11/2022 10:40

We live in a similar area and constant driving around is exhausting so I don't underestimate it.
But I think uprooting kids , particularly in secondary school is really hard.
Is your DH doing any of the school runs??
If not why not?
Can they be shared?
Is there a village/ town with facilities nearby that you could move to to avoid so much driving around but allow you to keep DC in same schools?
Is older DC entitled to any school transport from LA? In our area if they go to the nearest school and its over 3 miles away and nearest school( clearly this removes any choice!) LA provide a taxi.
I would apply for the job to buy you more thinking time, you may ir may not be offered it but if you are then you can decide, get kids to visit prospective schools etc. They won't be happy but will survive and ( hopefully) get over it!
You need to choose what's important to you. Your work and work life balance or keeping your kids settled where they are currently happy.
I think the middle ground of moving locally to a less isolated place is a good compromise.

BringMeTea · 19/11/2022 10:43

YOU and your feelings/wants are important OP. Hope you get the job.

thelobsterquadrille · 19/11/2022 10:45

SixDinnerSally · 19/11/2022 09:23

@thelobsterquadrille so the OP should just endure another decade of this , as long as she’s let off a bit of the driving?? There’s more to it!

But it's not just about her, is it? It's also about the other three members of the family who are happy. Surely there's a middle ground between uprooting the entire family and keeping things as they are for the next decade?

I mean, if I was driving 16 hours a week to facilitate everyone else, I'd be pissed off - no matter where I was living. So the solution is to either split the driving or to move somewhere closer to town, but so the children can remain in their schools.

I just don't agree with uprooting everyone for the sake of one person.

SlippingIntoTheTwilightZone · 19/11/2022 10:49

Oh, and make sure your children do Driver's Ed and get their licenses as soon as they are eligible! No more of this ferrying around business.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 19/11/2022 10:52

think you should move though its difficult now your kids feel they may have an opinion, rather than you presenting it as a done deal. You can always move somewhere at the end of a train line so that you can get somewhere with a big garden etc.

I'm saying this as your kids are at the age where they want the outside space etc but the needs of older teens are very different from younger teens. Being able to get to activities that they want, when they want, with their friends, being able to walk to friends houses and go round in a group without parents being aware of their every move because they have had to drive them, lots of different activities to try etc will surely be more important as they get older. We live on a busy road and it isnt ideal for young kids. But I lived somewhere similar when I was a teen and being able to walk or cycle to things like ice skating, clubs, pubs, shopping, friends houses, parks, go swimming with mates etc was really fun. My husband was the opposite and basically played on a farm with the neighbours until he could drive.

If you don't move, you can say to them that you wont be driving them as much to activities. Eg they go to a mates house, they stay the night and go there straight from school the next morning.

Blossomtoes · 19/11/2022 10:53

Take the job if it’s offered and stay over the nights you’re working. There’s a middle way, imagine if you uprooted your entire family and the contract was terminated at the end of three years.

Redup · 19/11/2022 10:58

Much as I love the thought of living somewhere rural I know it's dreadful that far too many motor vehicle drivers don't give a jot about who or what is round the corner.

Pedestrians don't matter (no pavements) horses, cyclists, anything slower or weaker than the mighty car, don't matter.

I live in an area in London which is extremely rural - but in shopping areas/culture within 20 minutes walk along the towpath. We walk, cycle or take public transport everywhere. There are areas which will give you everything you need. (A horse has just trotted along our road and poo'd outside our front door :) )

KettrickenSmiled · 19/11/2022 11:01

Rhondaa · 19/11/2022 10:31

'An 12 year old does not get to dictate the sensible life choices of their parents'

They moved 8yrs ago to this middle of nowhere bleak spot with 70mph roads, no trains, shops or amenities. Their kids were toddlers. They should've thought how tf their kids social lives amd activities would be maintained as they grew up, let alone how the school run would pan out. They seemingly didn't so tbh they owe it to their kids to let them finish school first before the next uprooting plan.

What a peculiar, fixed attitude.

From a PP who either has not bothered reading OP's updates, or failed to understand them.

SixDinnerSally · 19/11/2022 11:02

@Redup did you mean an area outside London that is rural? I’m intrigued! Sounds ideal. Could you possibly PM to tell me where such an amazing place exists? 😉

KettrickenSmiled · 19/11/2022 11:03

I just don't agree with uprooting everyone for the sake of one person.

What - like they did for DH's career move, when they relocated to their current home @thelobsterquadrille?

FingersInTheBin · 19/11/2022 11:08

BringMeTea · 19/11/2022 10:43

YOU and your feelings/wants are important OP. Hope you get the job.

Does no one else in the family matter then? Just the OP and what she wants?

The OP matters of course but it’s not just about her wants.

mam0918 · 19/11/2022 11:09

I'll be honest Im still mad at my mam for doing this too us... it ruined all our lives and for nothing.

we had a good life and against our wants that was snatched away because she decided and we went through years of hell, I left 'home' (not my home never will be) at 16 and never went back.

rosesandferns · 19/11/2022 11:10

If you and DH agree then I'd do it, but I'd research schools in the new area very carefully, and I'd only move with the full intention of making the next move permanent (i.e. if you don't get a permanent job after that 3 year contract, will you be happy/can you afford to stay anyway?) If not, I wouldn't move them just for 3 years when they are so happy where they are but would keep looking for other possible moves/compromises as PPs have suggested.

Mirabai · 19/11/2022 11:17

The reality of life is that pandemics happen, jobs dry up and people have to move where there’s work. Sometimes families have to move even when they don’t want to.

IsItThough · 19/11/2022 11:18

go for it

once your kids are teens they won't want to be stuck in some village
"At weekends my DC have different activities in different places and understandably want to see friends". it's already begun

bewarethetides · 19/11/2022 11:20

I would move.

Circumstances have changed (no bus, constant driving people around) and absolutely nothing in it for you.

It's not sustainable.

MsGus · 19/11/2022 11:22

rosesandferns · 19/11/2022 11:10

If you and DH agree then I'd do it, but I'd research schools in the new area very carefully, and I'd only move with the full intention of making the next move permanent (i.e. if you don't get a permanent job after that 3 year contract, will you be happy/can you afford to stay anyway?) If not, I wouldn't move them just for 3 years when they are so happy where they are but would keep looking for other possible moves/compromises as PPs have suggested.

Very sound advice.

Atethehalloweenchocs · 19/11/2022 11:24

Your kids dont know what the alternative will be like - so although they may not want to move, they dont know that they wont like it. You cannot stay somewhere you are miserable.

TitaniasAss · 19/11/2022 11:29

Everyone will no doubt tell you to go. My parents did something very similar when I was 15 and my sisters were 13 and to be honest it was hell for us.

I wouldn't do it because of my own circumstances but it's all about priorities I guess.

TitaniasAss · 19/11/2022 11:29

It also turned out that the grass wasn't quite as green as my parents expected too.

TitaniasAss · 19/11/2022 11:30

mam0918 · 19/11/2022 11:09

I'll be honest Im still mad at my mam for doing this too us... it ruined all our lives and for nothing.

we had a good life and against our wants that was snatched away because she decided and we went through years of hell, I left 'home' (not my home never will be) at 16 and never went back.

Same.