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To upend my settled family because I’m unhappy in the middle of rural nowhere?

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OpheliaPlum · 19/11/2022 06:33

We live in a rural area. Lovely house, space, big garden. No public transport, no shops, no amenities basically, and fast country roads with no pavements so we have to drive to get anywhere. We moved here 8 years ago because of DH’s then job and a lovely primary in the next village. I work in a creative industry and there is a shared workspace I drive to. I used to WFH but became so isolated in lockdowns after lockdowns I found a place to work alongside others, but it’s not an office, but shared space for freelance artists etc.

My eldest DC has just transferred to secondary school in September. We all wake at 6am every day and I drive DH to the station and the DC to their schools. Since the secondary transfer, I spend 16 hours every week on school runs. There is a Bus eldest DC could get but it is a 10 min drive from home (impossible to walk, country lanes, 70mph speed limits, no pavements) and in the opposite direction to the station and primary school. From the primary school there’s a backroad to the secondary so it makes sense for me to drive. At weekends my DC have different activities in different places and understandably want to see friends. My DH and I spend a lot of the weekend driving and hanging about in locations far from home. We do this separately so the other can get on with the endless laundry, maintaining the garden, all very practical, but increasingly we have very limited family time.

This June my DH got a new job so we don’t need to be in this area for his work any more. During covid I started doing some online uni teaching of my work. I visited the place I was teaching at in the summer for the first time in person and taught a special summer school. I felt so alive and connected to like minded people and it made me realise how isolated I am in the countryside.

There is a fixed term 3 year contract coming up at the uni. There is a possibility of a permanent job after that but the HE sector seems to be imploding and I am not sure how realistic the permanent contact would be. It would be 2 days teaching and studio space for my own creative practice. It is 3 hours from where we live.

My DH commutes to an office but has said he could transfer to work close to that town or change to a role with more WFH. He has very specialised skills and works in an industry that exists everywhere (like for an energy company, but not quite that).

I’d really like to apply for this job and if I get it, move the family. My children are adamant they do not want to leave. My eldest says he has just done secondary transfer, loves his new school, tells me I can move when the DC are all grown up. My younger DC love the countryside. We have a big garden, a dog, ducks, rabbits, and they love that life. I feel very selfish but also can’t get the fantasy of living in a buzzing town, being able to share my passion with the next generation, even walk to a cafe out of my head. I feel very tied to driving children everywhere and am under so much time pressure since the secondary transfer that it’s brought me to tears. It feels very melodramatic but I feel as if my needs have become crushed living here.

The deadline to apply is very soon. It isn’t a common opportunity at all, but I’m really not sure what to do as it is potentially just a three year role. I can imagine living in the town when the role comes to an end and my DH and I could both work from there. Also we don’t have any family close to where we live now but can visit family either side within a couple of hours. If we move it would be a half day journey to visit family.

Please help me think this through.

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Abra1t · 19/11/2022 09:57

Can you get together with other parents and make some kind of rota for at least part of the week? That saved my sanity in a similar situation, when my children were at schools some distance from our house, which has no public transport links whatsoever. If you could cobble together some kind of lift shares for two days a week, it might free you up to work in town part of the week.

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 19/11/2022 10:00

lawofselfish · 19/11/2022 06:59

I'm staggered at the amount of selfish people here

Agreed, I was amazed at some of the comments

lipstickwoman · 19/11/2022 10:01

These teenage years are very short OP. Before you know it they'll be off to uni, working, driving themselves.

Where do you want to be for the 20,30,40 years after? Where do you want your children and grandchildren to come home to?

SirMingeALot · 19/11/2022 10:02

The school run sounds like it would get easier as your kids get older

Hmm not necessarily. The youngest is evidently in either Year 3 or Year 4, so the two separate school runs are baked in until the eldest is in either Year 10 or Year 11. The OP may well get one year of them all being in one place and then end up lumbered taking the eldest to college somewhere else once he's 16. This is before considering the likely increased desire from the DC for lifts to see friends etc.

Realistically, if they stay in this house, a massive logistical undertaking for the next few years is baked in. That's a lot to manage.

OpheliaPlum · 19/11/2022 10:02

Thank you everyone. I’m going to separate out the job and the rest of the decisions. I’ll talk to DH this weekend but am probably going to apply for the job and then will make the other decisions depending on what comes up.

For those wondering, no the millionaire pad in the Lakes isn’t me, but it made me laugh, which was very welcome.

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Sceptre86 · 19/11/2022 10:03

I'd apply. If you get the job then move. In the meantime look at schools in that area. I'd have a serious chat with your dh about what compromises you are both happy to make for your family. Obviously you don't want your kids to be unhappy but your eldest won't be the first kid to have moved during high school and kids are often more resilient than we give them credit for. I wouldn't let kids dictate your life, it will only cause resentment. Children can't usually see past their own wants and needs as long as you and your dh make the decision together I don't see an issue.

TwoBlueFish · 19/11/2022 10:05

Apply for the job if you get it you move. Kids are resilient and they will adjust. I moved lots of times as a kid, including part way through year 7 at secondary. Your older child will probably thank you in a couple of years when they want to get out and about more independently.

CarefreeMe · 19/11/2022 10:05

You also need to look into the crime stats of the new town.

I moved my child out of a town as there was a lot of crime and I didn’t want her getting involved with gangs or drugs if I can help it.

It’s nice because she can get the bus or I can drop her in but she can also just stay home if she wants to and doesn’t have the pressure that teens growing up in towns/cities do.

I would love to live in the middle of London and I am planning to do so when my DC leaves home.
But I would not move whilst my child is still in school as I think a city can be quite a difficult place for teens growing up, especially if they’re not used to it.

Where I live I can leave my door unlocked, go away for weeks knowing my home won’t be burgled, not worry about my car being vandalised etc.

The towns/cities have a lot of pros but there’s also a lot of cons too.

I think this fantasy you have is clouding your judgement and you need to think about the realities before you uproot your entire family.

Jewel7 · 19/11/2022 10:06

I would apply and go from there. Your children are young enough to adjust in a few years it will be harder. You need to think about what you want. The children can still have the rural feel in a village with amenities and school buses etc.

Runningintolife · 19/11/2022 10:08

I think moving with school aged kids is all about timing and I think your kids have a strong point.

Teateaandmoretea · 19/11/2022 10:08

I think I’d look at seeing if you can find somewhere you prefer in the local area. The no pavements would be an absolute deal breaker for me. If your child cannot walk safely to the bus stop or to school though you can take that up with the council as there has to either be a safe walking route or transport provided. So I don’t understand why this is an issue tbh.

The driving kids to activities seems normal to me and won’t change wherever you live. I think a lot of kids give up stuff after primary, but I don’t think that’s a good thing in any way.

rainbowstardrops · 19/11/2022 10:09

If you apply for the job and get it, could you move closer to the town where the job is but not right in the town? So semi rural.
The children would have to move schools but if you are going to move at some point, you'd have to do it soon before the secondary child gets too close to GCSEs.

Alternatively, you stay in the job town 1/2 nights a week? Doesn't solve your weekend driving issues though.

Jaffacakeorisitabiscuit · 19/11/2022 10:10

An 12 year old does not get to dictate the sensible life choices of their parents. At 11 he's not long started secondary so a good time to move. As he gets older he'll probably appreciate being able to walk to see friends, get to clubs and go into town without having to rely on lifts. It's your and your DH's job to help him navigate the change.

Apply for the role - hope you are successful.

TrishM80 · 19/11/2022 10:13

My family's happiness comes first. If my family is happy, I'm happy. End of.

RandomMess · 19/11/2022 10:13

The friends your eldest has now are very likely to change of the next couple of years anyway. If you get the job I would move and do it quickly, any longer and it will get unfair on him.

We moved our eldest between year 7 & 8 and it was fine.

BungleandGeorge · 19/11/2022 10:16

Are your children at catchment schools? If there’s no suitable walking route (busy, road, no path) and that distances from home they would qualify for home to school transport.
what happens if your children aren’t happy after the move? It does sound like you’re idealising it and it may not be quite as amazing as you think

fairydust11 · 19/11/2022 10:19

Op - I think you should apply, then if you’re shortlisted or get the job then decide - I think as your children get older they’d probably prefer to be close to a town so they can be more independent than completely out in the countryside & reliant on lifts everywhere.
Also to add my eldest was adamant they wouldn’t move schools when we moved house - they did in the end as it was too far & unmanageable and it was honestly the best thing they did, so they tell me.
Your the adult and you & your husband need to make the best choices for your family.

Rippled · 19/11/2022 10:19

Even if you move to a town, there might not necessarily be convenient public transport to take your kids to all their activities and back.

KettrickenSmiled · 19/11/2022 10:22

TrishM80 · 19/11/2022 10:13

My family's happiness comes first. If my family is happy, I'm happy. End of.

That's nice dear.

OP, however, is a woman with personal autonomy, talent, & a career.
It will benefit her kids to start perceiving her as a while human in her own right.

KettrickenSmiled · 19/11/2022 10:22

WHOLE human

HepzibahGreen · 19/11/2022 10:23

I would move, not just for your sake but for your children's independence. But do it SOON don't dither and wait until they are older. I made this mistake - I hate where I live and wanted to move years ago but gave into DC's wailing and gnashing of teeth, now regret it massively but it's too late for me- save yourself!

1234TellMeWhatYouLookinFor · 19/11/2022 10:23

Im probably in minority here, but i wouldnt move settled secondary-aged dc. If your child is struggling with school/ friendships/socially, you personally wont be happy either and will spend many sleepless nights worrying about them and even feeling guilty about uprooting them.

Im in a creative industry too and understand what its like to miss the buzz of like-minded people. I also live somewhere that lacks in that sense.. My solution has been to try work away 2-3 days a week, and remotely the rest. That gives me the freedom and creative stimulation i need without uprooting my family.

Rhondaa · 19/11/2022 10:25

'Whatever possessed you to move to such a good-forsaken spot in the first place? I get that your husband had a job in the vicinity but surely you could have found a bigger village to move to, one with pavements & basic amenities.
Now you are in this unhappy position, I would make an exit plan to leave. Not mikes away and uprooting the kids but just to a bigger village or town closer to the secondary school so your son (and other children when they join secondary school) can have some independence and you are freed from the school run'

This!

Surely there is a middle ground here. Move to a nearby town so the kids lives and education aren't disrupted and you can then commute or get any old job until they can drive or have gone to uni . I couldn't imagine making a choice to live somewhere so remotely in the first place thinking one bus stop would fix everything. As you've found out these things change.
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OpheliaPlum · 19/11/2022 10:30

For those asking what possessed me to move here, when we moved life was different. There was a rural bus route that stopped at the station and close to schools. That has shut. My DH worked very close to here in a job he lost during covid as the place shut down. It had an on site nursery and that was perfect for our needs. We didn’t make a plan based on whether the bus would shut or his work would change, but both have happened. In addition the road has become busier and more dangerous in recent years as it is used as a cut through. We would not now move into this house given our circumstances but we made a good decision at the time. Things change.

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Rhondaa · 19/11/2022 10:31

'An 12 year old does not get to dictate the sensible life choices of their parents'

They moved 8yrs ago to this middle of nowhere bleak spot with 70mph roads, no trains, shops or amenities. Their kids were toddlers. They should've thought how tf their kids social lives amd activities would be maintained as they grew up, let alone how the school run would pan out. They seemingly didn't so tbh they owe it to their kids to let them finish school first before the next uprooting plan.