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To upend my settled family because I’m unhappy in the middle of rural nowhere?

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OpheliaPlum · 19/11/2022 06:33

We live in a rural area. Lovely house, space, big garden. No public transport, no shops, no amenities basically, and fast country roads with no pavements so we have to drive to get anywhere. We moved here 8 years ago because of DH’s then job and a lovely primary in the next village. I work in a creative industry and there is a shared workspace I drive to. I used to WFH but became so isolated in lockdowns after lockdowns I found a place to work alongside others, but it’s not an office, but shared space for freelance artists etc.

My eldest DC has just transferred to secondary school in September. We all wake at 6am every day and I drive DH to the station and the DC to their schools. Since the secondary transfer, I spend 16 hours every week on school runs. There is a Bus eldest DC could get but it is a 10 min drive from home (impossible to walk, country lanes, 70mph speed limits, no pavements) and in the opposite direction to the station and primary school. From the primary school there’s a backroad to the secondary so it makes sense for me to drive. At weekends my DC have different activities in different places and understandably want to see friends. My DH and I spend a lot of the weekend driving and hanging about in locations far from home. We do this separately so the other can get on with the endless laundry, maintaining the garden, all very practical, but increasingly we have very limited family time.

This June my DH got a new job so we don’t need to be in this area for his work any more. During covid I started doing some online uni teaching of my work. I visited the place I was teaching at in the summer for the first time in person and taught a special summer school. I felt so alive and connected to like minded people and it made me realise how isolated I am in the countryside.

There is a fixed term 3 year contract coming up at the uni. There is a possibility of a permanent job after that but the HE sector seems to be imploding and I am not sure how realistic the permanent contact would be. It would be 2 days teaching and studio space for my own creative practice. It is 3 hours from where we live.

My DH commutes to an office but has said he could transfer to work close to that town or change to a role with more WFH. He has very specialised skills and works in an industry that exists everywhere (like for an energy company, but not quite that).

I’d really like to apply for this job and if I get it, move the family. My children are adamant they do not want to leave. My eldest says he has just done secondary transfer, loves his new school, tells me I can move when the DC are all grown up. My younger DC love the countryside. We have a big garden, a dog, ducks, rabbits, and they love that life. I feel very selfish but also can’t get the fantasy of living in a buzzing town, being able to share my passion with the next generation, even walk to a cafe out of my head. I feel very tied to driving children everywhere and am under so much time pressure since the secondary transfer that it’s brought me to tears. It feels very melodramatic but I feel as if my needs have become crushed living here.

The deadline to apply is very soon. It isn’t a common opportunity at all, but I’m really not sure what to do as it is potentially just a three year role. I can imagine living in the town when the role comes to an end and my DH and I could both work from there. Also we don’t have any family close to where we live now but can visit family either side within a couple of hours. If we move it would be a half day journey to visit family.

Please help me think this through.

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MissNik7 · 22/11/2022 11:31

Difficult one, I moved from London to cornwall, my son is happy in his school has lots of friends and a happy life, but I kind of regret the move at times. Cornwall is nice but it's not London, however London has many flaws thatI'm happy to be away from. I'm not going to move now as my son is settled and most of my family moved here too. My dream is to take us all to Australia in the next few years and live there 🤣. Speak to your children and see how they feel about a potential move l, you may find that they would be happy to move anyway. I dont think its a great idea staying and being unhappy, however you may find that the grass isn't much greener if you did move, or no grass at all 🤣

Venetiaparties · 22/11/2022 11:58

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I lived in South Ken, so no not exactly rough by anyone's standards.
You are delusional if you don't think this stuff happens to every single young female travelling and working around London.

If you are old, then maybe its easier and you only go out every now and then in CL you probably won't get attention. You sound a little bit out of the loop if you haven't noticed the drug use in the city - surely you are joking??

You have to your wits about you as a young woman, or you can find yourself in trouble very quickly, and don't expect a single commuter to help or intervene, they def won't!

I couldn't leave the cesspit quick enough to be honest, and felt very relaxed and safe ever since, we would never move back. There are a million places in the world where children and teens can grow up safely and city centres is not one of them.

BloodAndFire · 22/11/2022 12:01

If you are old, then maybe its easier and you only go out every now and then in CL you probably won't get attention. You sound a little bit out of the loop if you haven't noticed the drug use in the city - surely you are joking??

This is not only insulting, but stupid and pathetic. I've been going out on my own all over London since i was 11 years old. You seem to have confused it with Mad Max, and yourself with some sort of magical princess.

But I'm sure you'll remain convinced that your weird, exaggerated, insane fantasy is the truth, and the many many other women who have posted here are all lying.

Or perhaps just too old and ugly to suffer like you did 😅

BloodAndFire · 22/11/2022 12:03

The cesspit of pickaxe wielding rapists that is South Kensington 🤣🤣🤣🤣

BloodAndFire · 22/11/2022 12:06

A simple night out required military planning to get home safely again and taxis were a total nightmare.

Actually we're being trolled, aren't we? There's no way this is a real person. Touché, had me going for a while.

MarshaBradyo · 22/11/2022 12:07

BloodAndFire · 22/11/2022 12:01

If you are old, then maybe its easier and you only go out every now and then in CL you probably won't get attention. You sound a little bit out of the loop if you haven't noticed the drug use in the city - surely you are joking??

This is not only insulting, but stupid and pathetic. I've been going out on my own all over London since i was 11 years old. You seem to have confused it with Mad Max, and yourself with some sort of magical princess.

But I'm sure you'll remain convinced that your weird, exaggerated, insane fantasy is the truth, and the many many other women who have posted here are all lying.

Or perhaps just too old and ugly to suffer like you did 😅

😂bit mad this stuff.

Venetiaparties · 22/11/2022 12:08

BloodAndFire · 22/11/2022 12:01

If you are old, then maybe its easier and you only go out every now and then in CL you probably won't get attention. You sound a little bit out of the loop if you haven't noticed the drug use in the city - surely you are joking??

This is not only insulting, but stupid and pathetic. I've been going out on my own all over London since i was 11 years old. You seem to have confused it with Mad Max, and yourself with some sort of magical princess.

But I'm sure you'll remain convinced that your weird, exaggerated, insane fantasy is the truth, and the many many other women who have posted here are all lying.

Or perhaps just too old and ugly to suffer like you did 😅

It is my experience, I consider myself lucky.

Venetiaparties · 22/11/2022 12:09

BloodAndFire · 22/11/2022 12:03

The cesspit of pickaxe wielding rapists that is South Kensington 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Errr, I didn't just stay in one location for the entire ten years!!!!! Ummmmm who do you know stays in the same street for ten years -

There are rapists everywhere, inc in South Ken, and I am not sure that is funny.

It is offensive. So I would stop there pal. Just saying.

Mirabai · 22/11/2022 12:10

Venetiaparties · 22/11/2022 11:58

I lived in South Ken, so no not exactly rough by anyone's standards.
You are delusional if you don't think this stuff happens to every single young female travelling and working around London.

If you are old, then maybe its easier and you only go out every now and then in CL you probably won't get attention. You sound a little bit out of the loop if you haven't noticed the drug use in the city - surely you are joking??

You have to your wits about you as a young woman, or you can find yourself in trouble very quickly, and don't expect a single commuter to help or intervene, they def won't!

I couldn't leave the cesspit quick enough to be honest, and felt very relaxed and safe ever since, we would never move back. There are a million places in the world where children and teens can grow up safely and city centres is not one of them.

Of course there’s sexual harassment - there’s nowhere in the world that doesn’t exist. Nor is there anywhere you can’t get drugs. I’ve seen more overt drug use in Cornwall and Sussex than in London. You can’t get away from it.

As for “terrified by mentally ill people” - wtaf? This is just overblown drama llama absurdity.

Mirabai · 22/11/2022 12:11

BloodAndFire · 22/11/2022 12:03

The cesspit of pickaxe wielding rapists that is South Kensington 🤣🤣🤣🤣

IKR.

BloodAndFire · 22/11/2022 12:15

Venetiaparties · 22/11/2022 12:09

Errr, I didn't just stay in one location for the entire ten years!!!!! Ummmmm who do you know stays in the same street for ten years -

There are rapists everywhere, inc in South Ken, and I am not sure that is funny.

It is offensive. So I would stop there pal. Just saying.

You stayed TEN YEARS in a cesspit of constant sexual harassment and pickaxe-wielding maniacs in a city whose transport system you found impossible to manage - the transport system used daily by millions of school children, elderly people, and tourists from around the world?

Odd.

Also, I am not your pal. 💩

BloodAndFire · 22/11/2022 12:19

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Personally, many of my friends do take drugs, many don't. Drugs were a far bigger problem when I've stayed in other parts of the UK. All my friends who have died from overdoses were living in Wales or Cornwall.

I would suggest that if she spent all her time with a group of people who 'profusely' and 'limitlessly' used drugs that perhaps that might explain both her frequent encounters with mentally unhinged people, and their seeming inability to find their way home from a night out - something managed by literally millions of people daily without having a heart attack in the process.

SleeplessInEngland · 22/11/2022 12:23

I couldn't leave the cesspit quick enough to be honest, and felt very relaxed and safe ever since, we would never move back. There are a million places in the world where children and teens can grow up safely and city centres is not one of them.

Christ, I'm glad the OP won't scare her kids off of living anywhere built up in this manner, because they'll probably want to at some point.

Venetiaparties · 22/11/2022 12:24

BloodAndFire · 22/11/2022 12:15

You stayed TEN YEARS in a cesspit of constant sexual harassment and pickaxe-wielding maniacs in a city whose transport system you found impossible to manage - the transport system used daily by millions of school children, elderly people, and tourists from around the world?

Odd.

Also, I am not your pal. 💩

Well my parents lived there, so yes I lived there too strangely.

Venetiaparties · 22/11/2022 12:26

BloodAndFire · 22/11/2022 12:19

Personally, many of my friends do take drugs, many don't. Drugs were a far bigger problem when I've stayed in other parts of the UK. All my friends who have died from overdoses were living in Wales or Cornwall.

I would suggest that if she spent all her time with a group of people who 'profusely' and 'limitlessly' used drugs that perhaps that might explain both her frequent encounters with mentally unhinged people, and their seeming inability to find their way home from a night out - something managed by literally millions of people daily without having a heart attack in the process.

Oh so you are now admitting your friends, many of your friends in fact, DO take drugs. Interesting. And it is only the poor sods in other areas that have actually died. That is okay then. That definitely makes it more appealing 🤔

BloodAndFire · 22/11/2022 12:31

Venetiaparties · 22/11/2022 12:26

Oh so you are now admitting your friends, many of your friends in fact, DO take drugs. Interesting. And it is only the poor sods in other areas that have actually died. That is okay then. That definitely makes it more appealing 🤔

I no longer have any idea what you're on about. And I am bored tbh. You carry on with your insane fantasies of what London is like, and tell everyone else who actually lives here that we are all liars/old and ugly/stupid/something or other. I'm going to do something more productive than replying to you, like literally anything in the world. Go and milk a goat or something.

Venetiaparties · 22/11/2022 12:34

BloodAndFire · 22/11/2022 12:31

I no longer have any idea what you're on about. And I am bored tbh. You carry on with your insane fantasies of what London is like, and tell everyone else who actually lives here that we are all liars/old and ugly/stupid/something or other. I'm going to do something more productive than replying to you, like literally anything in the world. Go and milk a goat or something.

Bye then! I would like to say it was a nice experience..but I found you somewhat prickly and defensive, not unlike my experience overall in the big smoke. Stay safe, even in South Ken! Pickpockets were there last week with knives, but hey it is a haven of safety and beauty I am told....of course it is.

SleeplessInEngland · 22/11/2022 12:37

Venetiaparties · 22/11/2022 12:34

Bye then! I would like to say it was a nice experience..but I found you somewhat prickly and defensive, not unlike my experience overall in the big smoke. Stay safe, even in South Ken! Pickpockets were there last week with knives, but hey it is a haven of safety and beauty I am told....of course it is.

I'm sorry you had a shit time in London. I know it must annoy/confound you that millions of women apparently like it enough to continue living there, but it might be best to accept that their experience wasn't/isn't as bad as yours was.

Mirabai · 22/11/2022 12:45

Venetiaparties · 22/11/2022 12:34

Bye then! I would like to say it was a nice experience..but I found you somewhat prickly and defensive, not unlike my experience overall in the big smoke. Stay safe, even in South Ken! Pickpockets were there last week with knives, but hey it is a haven of safety and beauty I am told....of course it is.

She’s just exasperated with your silliness.

I grew up in South Ken as it goes, it’s one the nicest and safest areas of London.

Stewball01 · 23/11/2022 14:37

Do the DC understand how unhappy you are? Maybe you should all sit down together and have a family discussion explaining how bad you're feeling. Give them the ideas of you working away from home at times. It's a very difficult situation. Good luck.

Blossomtoes · 23/11/2022 14:51

Do the DC understand how unhappy you are?

Hopefully not, we shouldn’t saddle our kids with our unhappiness.

carefulcalculator · 23/11/2022 14:55

Blossomtoes · 23/11/2022 14:51

Do the DC understand how unhappy you are?

Hopefully not, we shouldn’t saddle our kids with our unhappiness.

Agree, it woud be very manipulative to pressure the kids to move to make their mum happy - kids should be free to feel what they feel about this possible disruption.

ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 23/11/2022 16:48

Nonsense. The children don't run the household, and should not be consulted about major decisions like this. They can do as they see fit when they are adults.

They have a lot more time ahead to 'be happy' than the OP does. And it's not as though she'd be taking them to some shithole. The cultural and educational opportunities for them will abound, not to mention the diversity, the history, the access to other amenities.

Keep in mind she is putting in ungodly effort ferrying them about. And it's only going to get worse. It's time for some consideration for mum here.

FlamencoDance · 23/11/2022 17:36

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