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Where can I buy. Suffragette scarf

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SeasonaIVag · 16/11/2022 07:44

Excuse the daily mail link but I am absolutely raging at this

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11432097/Woman-wearing-suffragette-scarf-kicked-Scottish-parliament-gender-debate.html

ps MNHQ - tucking away discussion into its own wee sub forum doesn’t make you any better

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TruckerBarbie · 16/11/2022 17:21

I mean, if we're OK with suffragettes killing the public then logically we should be OK with Extinction Rebellion setting off bombs at concerts/in churches etc.

The death of the planet is the death of all humans. Much more important than politics. 🤷‍♀️

LuciferRising · 16/11/2022 17:21

Hope you find one OP.

Happylittlechicken · 16/11/2022 17:22

TruckerBarbie · 16/11/2022 17:17

Probably not a great idea to wear one in parliament.

What's with all the whataboutery today!

Why not. If you can wear a pride lanyard then why not a che shirt? As to the wharabouttery, there was this really cool course in it. Organised by Stonewall. I think I’m getting it right now.

Happylittlechicken · 16/11/2022 17:24

TruckerBarbie · 16/11/2022 17:21

I mean, if we're OK with suffragettes killing the public then logically we should be OK with Extinction Rebellion setting off bombs at concerts/in churches etc.

The death of the planet is the death of all humans. Much more important than politics. 🤷‍♀️

Who’s killing the public? You’re right though, the planter is way more important than politics. Or gender identity. So why don’t you pop and tell the green party to do their job and stay out of politics and gender ideology. There’s a pet.

Happylittlechicken · 16/11/2022 17:24

Planet gosh darn it.

JulesJules · 16/11/2022 17:25

theministryoftartan.co.uk/product-category/suffragette_tartan_range/

My sister gave me the scarf for my birthday last year, it's beautiful. I'm going to get some of the suffragette teatowels etc from Radical Teatowels.

TruckerBarbie · 16/11/2022 17:26

lifeturnsonadime · 16/11/2022 17:20

I just don't believe that blowing up innocent people is ever the solution. Pretty worrying that you do!

When have I said that?

Lying to make a nonsense point is not a good look.

And this whole thread was about what is happening Scotland, which is the erasure of women's rights in favour of trans inclusion. So don't tell me to fuck off for coming back to the actual point of the thread and the reason the woman wore the scarf.

Well, your below quote posted in response to my one about bombing civilians sounds very much like a justification of their behaviour.

Perhaps if we were treated as equals in the first place the fight would not have been necessary.

If people want to idolise the suffragettes thats their prerogative but we should be clear that they did thingsijr blind innocent postal workers and attempt to kill large numbers of the innocent public with bombs in theatres/churches.

That not an opinion, it's incontrovertible fact.

BooksAreSaferThanPeople · 16/11/2022 17:26

Noticed this jumper the other day. 20% currently

tuclothing.sainsburys.co.uk/p/Block-Stripe-Relaxed-Fit-Jumper-/141239197-MultiColoured?searchTerm=:newArrivals&searchProduct=

Happylittlechicken · 16/11/2022 17:29

Ooh Thankyou @BooksAreSaferThanPeople im seeing an early Christmas present in my future….

Madcats · 16/11/2022 17:30

BooksAreSaferThanPeople · 16/11/2022 17:26

70 ordered in the past 24 hours!!!

TruckerBarbie · 16/11/2022 17:31

Tbf, we're probs not going to agree.

Like most European women, I'm not a feminist and I believe most of it (modern feminism) undermines women being taken seriously tbh. So many women moan about male dominated industries/quotas etc yet I don't see many other women onsite.

Most of it seems to just be hot air tbh. Always excuses about it being an unfriendly environment for women blah blah. Doubt that would've worried the suffragettes. 😂

Happylittlechicken · 16/11/2022 17:33

That’s amazing @Madcats looks like a new Trend will be happening. Loving all the support for womens rights. Bet NS is fuming 😂

JacobReesMoggsSocialConscience · 16/11/2022 17:34

TruckerBarbie · 16/11/2022 17:15

Oh fuck off with the trans bullshit. I've not said anything about 'thinking nothing of' xyz.

I just don't believe that blowing up innocent people is ever the solution. Pretty worrying that you do!

The suffragettes weren't even that instrumental in getting women the vote. It was more the war effort and the fact that other countries had already given women the vote, making us look behind.

Most men didn't have the vote until women did and you can be sure the rich suggragettes competing with men probably weren't too fussed about whether their maids got the vote. Try actually doing some research rather than blindly following what people tell you is 'the righteous feminist mindset'.

Can you please list the countries where women somehow automatically had the right to vote without any protest?

Thanks.

LuciferRising · 16/11/2022 17:35

male dominated industries

There are male dominated industries (and female) because of the messaging and programming girls receive the moment they are born from a woman's body.

TruckerBarbie · 16/11/2022 17:37

LuciferRising · 16/11/2022 17:35

male dominated industries

There are male dominated industries (and female) because of the messaging and programming girls receive the moment they are born from a woman's body.

Definitely not because most women don't like dirty, physically gruelling jobs?

midgetastic · 16/11/2022 17:37

Well I am glad you're alright with sexism

I'm not

I don't see why I should be ignored or paid less or physically harmed just because I am female

I understand why you don't see so many women in certain roles - it's a combination of sexism at the education system , sexism in the family environment and sexism in the recruiting process - but hey if women really wanted it they would be there wouldn't they ? No because they have to want it ten times more than any male so you end up with then men times fewer women

lifeturnsonadime · 16/11/2022 17:38

Well, your below quote posted in response to my one about bombing civilians sounds very much like a justification of their behaviour.

Perhaps if we were treated as equals in the first place the fight would not have been necessary.

Well they weren't treated as equals were they? Peaceful protests didn't work. Women were manhandled by police, put in prison and were force fed & assaulted for wanting the right to vote, was any of that acceptable? Pankhurst never wanted violence and urged it not to happen. Some women within the suffragettes WERE violent undoubtedly which is obviously very regrettable. So what I was trying to say was calling the suffragettes a violent movement is simplistic and fails to look at the context of the situation that these women were in. What I did not say was I thought blowing up innocent people was the solution which is what you implied I said.

I certainly don't think that it is women who are the violent party in the current women's rights fight. It is the TRAs who are using aggressive tactics to take women's rights.

LuciferRising · 16/11/2022 17:39

Definitely not because most women don't like dirty, physically gruelling jobs?

Are you the man who interviewed me 20 years ago? He wanted to know if I minded getting dirty and talking to farmers.

Happylittlechicken · 16/11/2022 17:42

I think @lifeturnsonadime that @TruckerBarbie is just messing with you and does not for one second think you were condoning violence. Sad that someone has nothing better to do but to try and cause mischief when women are discussing a serious subject but there you go. People do be people as my daughter says.

midgetastic · 16/11/2022 17:44

We must recall that violence by women is so much worse than violence by men

We only have a parliament because people fought for it - quite nasty that got

KittenKong · 16/11/2022 17:45

TruckerBarbie · 16/11/2022 17:37

Definitely not because most women don't like dirty, physically gruelling jobs?

I used to work with architects, surveyors and engineers (and gardeners). The first 3 male dominated and not gruelling (sadly I am seeing young women in these industries climbing the greasy pole, but greasing it even more by advertising their flipping obvious pronouns), the 4th gruelling but had a fair sex distribution.

lifeturnsonadime · 16/11/2022 18:31

@Happylittlechicken yes I know, I shouldn't get so riled.

We must recall that violence by women is so much worse than violence by men

Yes this must be it. Women should put up and shut up.

Anyway, I was heart warmed to see the wonderful Joanna Cherry donning suffragette colours and wearing a suffragette scarf at PMQ's today along with the several other MPs across the political parties wearing purple.

ThrowawayBerna · 16/11/2022 19:46

Nice scarf, found in the wild. And in 2028, the year of truly universal women's suffrage for the UK. They really gonna go there?

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 16/11/2022 20:21

TruckerBarbie · 16/11/2022 17:37

Definitely not because most women don't like dirty, physically gruelling jobs?

What like care work and nursing.

Exposure to body fluids, heavy lifting, dangerous or distressed individuals, emotionally taxing.

Letsgetreadytoblackcurrantcrumble · 16/11/2022 20:27

Mother of ASD diagnosed pre teen here. I am HORRIFIED by the thought that here in Scotland she could on a whim decide she is trans and her pre teen mind could decide to undertake irreversible medical steps and I couldn’t do anything to stop it.

trans people are people. Nice people, in the main. But there is no place for pre operative trans women in woman’s spaces whatsoever. Once they have fully transitioned they’re welcome, but before that no chance. Who knows if they just ‘felt female’ for the afternoon and decide to go marching into the womens changing rooms?

And as for the Green Party? They stopped prioritising environmental issues long ago, and I stopped voting for them long ago.