General election tomorrow - who do you vote for?

[IaminRome]

I'm so sick of this government and reading a lot of the posts on here, it feels like on the one hand, so are lots of people, but there are also lots of other people who are very sceptical about labour or lib dem or greens. Added to which, there are so many issues at the moment, I know there's a lot of GC and what makes a woman, that is particularly important at the moment, and cost of living, private rentals, the environment, etc etc

So knowing what you know about the parties, if there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for..

YABU - Tories
YANBU - Labour
Comment for a third option

I used to be green, but I'm so not sure any more. So I think I'd vote labour, to stand best chance of keeping Tories out. (What I'd really like to vote for is a more representative government)

I’d spoil my ballot paper. None of them represent my views.

I've just had a daughter and I feel honour bound not to vote for a party which doesn't respect her rights or safety.

Well I am a woman walking around thinking that the omission of misogyny from the hate crime list needs correction.

The horrendous situations you mention in your first paragraph are all happening under a Conservative government who have been in power now for 13 years. Are you happy with what they have achieved for women?

I’m amazed how everyone has forgotten that the first Labour government we had in 1997 since the 1970’s almost bankrupted the country again and took us into two illegal wars making us all the targets of whatever fundamentalist nutter decides to go postal or detonate himself. Let us also not forget that the mayor of London a Labour MP unelected by most of it has rolled out the most punitive tax since poll tax disproportionately affecting the poor elderly and disabled without so much as even a vote to ask permission. A man who has singlehandedly presided over the biggest rise in knife and gun crime in recorded history. Or that it was Keir Starmer himself who made the decision not to investigate and prosecute, as head of the CPS, all the Muslim paedophile rings that were systematically wholesale raping young white daughters.
Fuck Labour and all their bullshit!

Do you mean the Tories @MargotBamborough?

Because they've effectively legalised rape?

Or because they've cut funding to domestic violence programmes?

Or because more of the old people who don't have adequate care are women?

Or because more of the people in poverty are women?

Perhaps it's Miriam Cates' view that going to University and no fault divorce are bad for the birth rate?

None of them represent mine perfectly either but I sort of don't expect them to.

I'd imagine that I agree on something's and disagree on others with everyone on this thread.

And it's the same for political parties.

I'll be voting tactically to unseat my Tory MP.

I'm cracking up at the posters planning on voting Tory for the sake of women's rights though. You lot are funny.

@pointythings I applaud your patience.

I mean none of the above.

Getting the right wing misogynists out isn't a good reason to vote for left wing misogynists.

@MargotBamborough - I have two daughters and I chose not to send them to state schools because the gender woo peddled in these schools under a Conservative government.

These people could change the law, but they won't, because they like campaigning on these rights better than they do enforcing the law on rape, for example. The Tory party are an utter pee take and they've been in charge for 13 years. Not some leftists that apparently I should be worried about if they get elected.

Who's going to be the government in the scenario where you won't vote for anybody because they're all misogynists @MargotBamborough?

^It's going to be one of them, right?
^
I have kids. We need the NHS to function. We need the education system to function. We need law and order to function. We need the economy to function.

The country can't afford more years of the Tories so I will vote for whoever has the best chance of unseating my Tory MP in my Tory safe seat.

That's the best that I can do.

For my kids and for my country.

Is that genuinely how you feel about your choice?

It's the same on immigration isn't it?

Immigration is at a record high and the party who have been in charge of it for 13 years and who Took Back Control of it two years ago are just outraged about it.

And they want us to be just outraged about it too, then go and vote for them because if it.

Because somehow it's all someone else's fault and only by voting for them again can it be fixed.

Like they fixed it in 2019.

And 2015

And 2010.

Like how Brexit fixed it.

Ideally the Communist party, as they know that women don't have dicks.

Realistically, Lid Dems, as it's the only way of ousting the Tory incumbent where I live

I think both the Tories and Labour are terrible for women and girls in different ways. So I'm not voting for either of them.

Then your chances of getting a party in power who will represent your views is minimal.

Hotvtopics for me are women's rights and well funded services. Therefore would vote SDP if a decent candidate stood but more likely to spoil ballot. Democracy is broken with the current crop, they all need to go.

I always vote because I feel I owe it to those who fought for suffrage.

But I'm really struggling to want to vote for any of the main parties. You'd think with the way the Tories have behaved that it would be an open goal for a decent opposition. But the opposition are all inadequate too. And, like many others, I'm not voting for any party who are captured and avow that people with a penis are women.

Someone needs to start a new centrist party, as happened in France before it all went pear-shaped for Macron.

It was OK in the council elections because I voted for local independents (who all got in and the Tories lost control of the council). But when it comes to a general election I'm stumped. I used to be a LibDem but now am politically homeless.

Unfortunately I live in an area where they traditionally elect anything that wears a blue rosette.

Just because I am not planning on voting doesn't mean I'm not politically active - quite the opposite. Showing up every 5 years to put a tick next to a stranger is not the only way to influence democracy. In fact I think it's the least effective way. You're just choosing from a range of policies you had no involvement in creating. Lobbying, campaigning and forming relationships with your local MP and councillors regardless of party is harder but more effective.

Greens

😂😂😂😂😂😂

Yes, and thats my dilemma because I unfortunately live a in mega-bitch disabled-person-hating Tory MP constituency that hasn't been a Labour seat since pretty much the dinosaurs karked it.

Do I hope enough of the wealthy Tory voting pensioners have either snuffed it or given up voting (locally this area is seriously over 65's top heavy... I refer you to my 'dinosaurs snuffed it' comment)... and vote Labour or... vote Lib Dem... argh.

Back to my cave.

Oh dear.

No one. It would have been Labour but I don't trust Starmer at all. He's broken every promise he made to Labour members. The Greens don't seem to stand for anything anymore, Lid Dems - can't forgive or forget Nick Clegg.