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Should I change my sons name to please my MIL?

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97DS · 15/11/2022 04:57

Ever since we found out baby was going to be a boy DH and I have had his name chosen. MIL has made subtle digs throughout pregnancy at how she’s not a fan of the name, and if we’ve considered anything else. I just dodge the question and ignore it because I don’t have the energy to argue with her. She can be very opinionated and very stubborn.
baby is now a week old, and not officially registered yet but we have announced his full name to friends/family/social media.
MIL has gone out of her way at every opportunity to make a comment on his name. Even after a traumatic birth which landed me in theatre with major haemorrhaging, her first text to DH was asking what baby’s name is going to be.

She’s been talking to family behind our back saying how disappointed she is, as well as pulling DH aside to privately ask if we would change the name. MIL is purposely avoiding saying his name, and has opted to calling him Jnr instead… That’s just the issue with his 1st name. Keep reading…

she also has a massive issue with his middle name too. DH has 2 middle names (X & Y) and when we chose baby’s name, we decided to use middle name Y so it followed the family tree as a tribute to the dads (Y runs quite far back in the male side of the family tree) and also, Y is my fathers middle name too so it seemed very sentimental to us all.
We’ve had a lot of compliments on his name from DH’s side of the family because we chose middle name Y. But MIL has kicked off BIG TIME. Pulling out crocodile tears and directly asking DH to change the middle name to something that tributes MIL’s family instead.
However, there’s only 2 male names to pick from if we were to consider it, and both names are awful, I genuinely don’t like them, and they don’t even go with baby boys 1st name, and would make the surname seem like a mouthful if you were to say it out loud.
My argument is, it’s not her baby so it’s not her business what his name is. She had the opportunity 30 years ago to tribute her family and that’s why DH’s middle name is X. But baby’s name isn’t meant to be a tribute to her family, it’s a tribute to DH’s family, as well as my own.

Yes we could just keep the peace and add a 2nd middle name that she wants, but I don’t want that. As his mother, I should be the one who has final say and I don’t want him to have 2 middle names, and I certainly don’t want to change his name under the pressure and influence of MIL. DH has agreed with me throughout pregnancy what his name is, but now MIL is getting into his head and playing a guilt card, DH is now having 2nd thoughts because he doesn’t like to upset MIL. I know it’s not what he wants either but his MIL is so good at minipulating everything to get her own way. She puts words into DH’s mouth and convinces him they’re his own. So now DH and I argue over this.
what’s your thoughts? AIBU to stick my guns and keep my sons name how it is, or should I reason with MIL, and change the name just to keep her happy?

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RedToothBrush · 15/11/2022 11:40

HELL NO.

If she gets away with bullying you to comply with this over your son, what will she demand next?

Its not all about her.

Stick to your guns and tell her its tough.

TheEponymousGrub · 15/11/2022 11:41

I agree with PPS that you, and especially your DH, need to recognise clearly that this level of interference from MIL is not acceptable. I also agree that standing up to her now, together, will be an investment for your happy future. That said, in order to have your husband clearly on your side now, I think it's a great idea to add MIL's choice of name as an additional given name. OK, you didn't want to, and I agree that you shouldn't have to, but it could help your DH to stand with you in refusing other changes - and it won't affect your child at all. It needn't appear on the school register, even; it can be effectively dropped quietly, as soon as you like. There's no true reason to want not to do it except that it is irksome to feel pushed. I think it would be worth that cost, if it enabled your DH to stand with you.

Webbedlife · 15/11/2022 11:42

It's not about her. She should stop being so controlling.

KettrickenSmiled · 15/11/2022 11:46

TheEponymousGrub · 15/11/2022 11:41

I agree with PPS that you, and especially your DH, need to recognise clearly that this level of interference from MIL is not acceptable. I also agree that standing up to her now, together, will be an investment for your happy future. That said, in order to have your husband clearly on your side now, I think it's a great idea to add MIL's choice of name as an additional given name. OK, you didn't want to, and I agree that you shouldn't have to, but it could help your DH to stand with you in refusing other changes - and it won't affect your child at all. It needn't appear on the school register, even; it can be effectively dropped quietly, as soon as you like. There's no true reason to want not to do it except that it is irksome to feel pushed. I think it would be worth that cost, if it enabled your DH to stand with you.

Eh?

So OP has to teach her husband how to stand up to his mother by ... agreeing to kowtow to his mother?

This is not something they should be making a concession over. Right now, they need to demonstrate that they are on the same page & MiL's input is not welcome. I can only hope that the DH has the balls to stand his ground. If he doesn't, he'll have opened the floodgates to contact carping & interference.

KettrickenSmiled · 15/11/2022 11:47

CONSTANT carping & interference.

Herejustforthisone · 15/11/2022 11:47

TheEponymousGrub · 15/11/2022 11:41

I agree with PPS that you, and especially your DH, need to recognise clearly that this level of interference from MIL is not acceptable. I also agree that standing up to her now, together, will be an investment for your happy future. That said, in order to have your husband clearly on your side now, I think it's a great idea to add MIL's choice of name as an additional given name. OK, you didn't want to, and I agree that you shouldn't have to, but it could help your DH to stand with you in refusing other changes - and it won't affect your child at all. It needn't appear on the school register, even; it can be effectively dropped quietly, as soon as you like. There's no true reason to want not to do it except that it is irksome to feel pushed. I think it would be worth that cost, if it enabled your DH to stand with you.

Have you lost your mind?

AryaStarkWolf · 15/11/2022 11:48

Absolutely do NOT give in to her, how childish and rude of her. This is your baby, you call him what you want

CambsAlways · 15/11/2022 11:49

Sorry but you are joking! You actually are considering changing your babies name cos your MIL doesn’t like it 🤣🤣🤣🤣 bloody hell, whose baby is it, I’ve never heard anything like it! So you were in theatre due to a traumatic birth and as you say the first thing she asked, was not how you and the baby are, she wanted to know if you had changed it’s name! She has some issues going on massive controller, what’s your Dh doing about this he could shut her down straight away, even reading about how you are being treated makes me so sad for you

mikulkin · 15/11/2022 11:50

Her reasoning on the first name is ridiculous and you obviously shouldn't change it.
Having said that I would go a bit against grain here and say add another middle name. I do understand all your reasoning, but given your MIL and FIL are divorced it looks like there is honouring to FIL side but not MIL one. I know that was not the intention, you explained it but to MIL it looks this way. I think that's why your DH is feeling guilty now and that's why he argues with you. He feels he honoured his dad but not his mum.

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 15/11/2022 11:50

That you are even considering this, considering how nasty MIL is and how she is manipulating your husband and brainwashing him to agree with her, shows you're being a doormat. Of COURSE you should not even consider it for a split second. Why reward her for being a nasty and manipulative bitch? That's how CFs and nasty bullies win. When people give in to them just for peace. Put your big girl pants on and tell her if she doesn't stop the bad-mouthing, the gossiping and the manipulating, she won't see her GC at all. You have the cards here to pull her into line. Use them.

WinterLobelia · 15/11/2022 11:53

Do Not Be Bullied.

A family member said they did not like DS2's name and that they would instead call him by his middle name.

I laughed in his face and said he would not be doing so.

Everybody else also told him he was being a wanker.

he does not talk to me now which is a bit of a win tbh. Could not stand being stood up to.

You choose your son's name. You and DH. No-one has the right to behave in the way your MIL is behaving.

CambsAlways · 15/11/2022 11:55

You have a MIL problem and also a husband problem, and I would be spitting feathers! Your husband is a big boy now and should be putting his wife before his mother

TheBeesKnee · 15/11/2022 11:56

Having read all your updates I can kind of see where she's coming from. Her grandchild has her husband's surname and a middle name from him, as well as a name from his country, so it's all about his side of the family and I can understand how she may feel pushed out.

I would say don't give in on this occasion but if you're going down the sentimental middle name tradition then maybe the next child could have a MIL side of the family name tribute? Don't tell her this until the next one's here though Smile

Pipsquiggle · 15/11/2022 12:00

TheBeesKnee · 15/11/2022 11:56

Having read all your updates I can kind of see where she's coming from. Her grandchild has her husband's surname and a middle name from him, as well as a name from his country, so it's all about his side of the family and I can understand how she may feel pushed out.

I would say don't give in on this occasion but if you're going down the sentimental middle name tradition then maybe the next child could have a MIL side of the family name tribute? Don't tell her this until the next one's here though Smile

Eh?

The baby has names that reflects both his mother's and father's families - that's lovely.

Why the hell should the MIL get a say?

Fenella123 · 15/11/2022 12:02

She sounds a delight!
Would it shut her up though if your baby got an additional middle name which is one of the surnames from her line - perhaps MiL's mother's maiden name? (You'd want to avoid any security-question names!!).

Shinyandnew1 · 15/11/2022 12:03

Having read all your updates I can kind of see where she's coming from. Her grandchild has her husband's surname and a middle name from him, as well as a name from his country, so it's all about his side of the family and I can understand how she may feel pushed out.

In that case, shouldn’t it be the OP who is pushed out?!

Folklore9074 · 15/11/2022 12:04

No. You give in on this and kiss goodbye to your authority over your son and family. This is one to kick off about and not meekly avoid the subject when she brings it up. Get angry. She is taking the absolute piss out of you.

KettrickenSmiled · 15/11/2022 12:07

mikulkin · 15/11/2022 11:50

Her reasoning on the first name is ridiculous and you obviously shouldn't change it.
Having said that I would go a bit against grain here and say add another middle name. I do understand all your reasoning, but given your MIL and FIL are divorced it looks like there is honouring to FIL side but not MIL one. I know that was not the intention, you explained it but to MIL it looks this way. I think that's why your DH is feeling guilty now and that's why he argues with you. He feels he honoured his dad but not his mum.

Why are you suggesting another middle name, when OP has very clearly said that this is NOT something she wants to do?

MiL has no rights to have her name "honoured".
OP isn't birthing future kings or establishing a dynasty ...

Luredbyapomegranate · 15/11/2022 12:07

Don’t give in.

This woman needs boundaries, if you give in to this you will never have peace

Sennelier1 · 15/11/2022 12:08

Don't change the name. A name is a most precious gift, your baby should know you chose it especially for him, not because his gran wanted it. .

GatoradeMeBitch · 15/11/2022 12:10

If you have a second child, keep the name a secret until after the birth. In my experience people are a lot more accepting when just presented with a little human being and their name.

I can see why MIL might have some hurt feelings, but ultimately what counts is that both you and your DH like the names you've chosen. If MIL wants to call him Junior for the next 30 years, that's up to her.

Pompomsfantastix · 15/11/2022 12:28

STAY STRONG!!!! If she gets her own way after acting like this, it will be her MO for ever. Sounds like she’s spoilt the name for you but It’s absolutely fuck-all to do with her. My MIL still makes digs about my first child’s name. Just don’t tell her till it’s too late next time. She sounds insufferable!

mikulkin · 15/11/2022 12:35

KettrickenSmiled · 15/11/2022 12:07

Why are you suggesting another middle name, when OP has very clearly said that this is NOT something she wants to do?

MiL has no rights to have her name "honoured".
OP isn't birthing future kings or establishing a dynasty ...

I am suggesting it because her DH now feels guilty and argues with her. The OP clearly said this is not something she wants to do but she is not the only parent to the child. DC has two parents and his father now does feel something needs to be done.
OP is not creating dynasty but she explained her reasoning for middle name and it is about honouring family. MIL doesn't have rights but DH does and he now feels he needs to honour both sides of his family.
I am really surprised that everyone talks about MIL and nobody actually mentions that DH now thinks differently. He is not a puppet, he is a grown up man and he is entitled to change his opinion after considering the situation.

mikulkin · 15/11/2022 12:38

Pipsquiggle · 15/11/2022 12:00

Eh?

The baby has names that reflects both his mother's and father's families - that's lovely.

Why the hell should the MIL get a say?

MIL doesn't but DH does and he wants now to include his mother's family somehow.

JennyNotFromTheBlock · 15/11/2022 12:38

mikulkin · 15/11/2022 12:35

I am suggesting it because her DH now feels guilty and argues with her. The OP clearly said this is not something she wants to do but she is not the only parent to the child. DC has two parents and his father now does feel something needs to be done.
OP is not creating dynasty but she explained her reasoning for middle name and it is about honouring family. MIL doesn't have rights but DH does and he now feels he needs to honour both sides of his family.
I am really surprised that everyone talks about MIL and nobody actually mentions that DH now thinks differently. He is not a puppet, he is a grown up man and he is entitled to change his opinion after considering the situation.

He is not a puppet, he is a grown up man

All evidence to the contrary! He is MIL's puppet and allows himself to be turned against his own wife.
He and OP have a one week old, and have already chosen the names. He shouldn't be going back on that and moving the goal posts because he is too much of a ball-less gutless wonder to tell his mummy to shut up.

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