To think the NHS have made me infertile and to attempt to sue them?

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I had a miscarriage ten weeks no bleeding heartbeat stopped I then had a d and c surgery to remove the foetus and since then my problems started,

All I've had is continual early miscarriages - which I am reading is common issue after d and c surgery due to womb scarring.

I have even had corrective surgery I paid 5k for and the early losses are continuing in the same way, I've had scans that show I had adhesions which happen after d and c, things feel different since the d and c

I'm very angry, what do I do about this I'm almost certain my issues have been caused by the d and c surgery

Sorry you’re going through this OP. It sounds awful!
I think you’d need to get some legal advice.

10 weeks since the D&C and you’ve had multiple early miscarriages and corrective surgery? Did you mean months?

I don't mean to be callous but you had a miscarriage before the d&c so could these losses be related to whatever caused that one rather than the nhs being negligent? This might be the line they take even if it's wrong. Sorry you are going through this

Oh I’m sorry you had a miscarriage at 10 weeks.

Its a tricky one I presume if they warned you womb scarring would be a potential side effect then does that absolve them?

Im sorry for your struggles x

I think she had a miscarriage at 10 weeks, a while ago

I read it as a miscarriage at 10 weeks.

you would have signed a consent form detailing the risks of the procedure. YABU

So sorry for not explaining correctly. The d and c was three years ago and was my first pregnancy - nothing before then it ended in a missed miscarriage because of thyroid condition - none told me thyroid was linked to fertility and I had history in my notes and no one monitored my thyroid closely and turns out it was severely overactive - think it led to the first miscarriage and to remove it I had a d and c and since then my womb has NOT been the same, pains, continuous early losses blood clots etc

You can’t say ‘you think’ you need proof to actually have a case.

Cuppasoupmonster, I think OP had a miscarriage at 10 weeks, not 10 wks ago.

Sorry OP, that's tough to go through. Have you spoken to a specialist in the field?

If you are getting pregnant regularly then you are not infertile. You need to have investigations as to the reoccurrent miscarriages to find out what is causing it. It might be the d&c but it could be whatever caused the first one is causing these.

Sorry for your losses OP xx

I'm sorry for your loses OP.

I think you would probably need fairly solid medical evidence that the subsequent miscarriages are a result of damage caused by the d&c, and that these risks were not covered in anything you signed in the permission form, or that you were unduly rushed into signing it etc.

And as you've had corrective surgery which hasn't stopped you miscarrying that this isn't linked / doesn't prove it wasn't that etc.

Are you under review by the NHS for your miscarriages? What are they saying?

@midnightstaylorsversion I honestly don't remember doing so, I also don't remember this being pointed out ever.

In my line of work we must verbally explain things not just get people to sign and also - they say the risk is much lower than what it is.

It's all bullshit I don't know what to do but my womb is not the same at all these miscarriages ever since are different there's bleeding and clots I get random excruciating Adbomjnal pains I never had this before that fist loss and there was no bleeding with that one they've been negligent on two counts

I just HATE the NHS it's failed me so many times and I think they should be held accountable

@SleepingStandingUp even the first one they were aware I have thyroid conditions and no one told me to go under monitoring for it which could have prevented that loss - no one told me this I'm not a doctors so wouldn't know

They would not have done the surgery without a consent form. On the consent form is a list of the risks of the procedure which are read out to the patient and then the part you sign is you agreeing that you understand them and happy to go ahead. You have no case

@SleepingStandingUp thank you x I just am very very confused right now - I am just fed up of the NHS continuously failing all the time. I can't seem to get anything from it nothing at all, even today I wanted results from a blood test done over a month ago has to speak to approx ten people and I still don't have the results no one can find it

I honestly don't know why the answer is and then government want to spend on triple lock peoples pension who don't even need it when the health system is falling to shit

I don't know if they'd routinely warn women with thyroid issues that it can cause miscarriage but I assume PALS would be a good point of call to raise a complaint that you weren't advised you'd need to not conceive at that time / do something differently, that you'd therefore actively ttc without knowing the risks. It would at least get the complaints process started which is think you'd need to do before legally action

@SleepingStandingUp thank you so much.

I think the d and c caused a aSherman's syndrome;

Asherman's syndrome is a rare condition where scar tissue, also called adhesions or intrauterine adhesions, builds up inside your uterus. This extra tissue creates less space inside your uterus. Think of the walls of a room getting thicker and thicker, making the space in the middle of the room smaller and smaller

Were you being treated for hyperthyroidism before becoming pregnant?

Have you had any further investigations in to your abdominal pain and blood clots?

So you want to sue the NHS and have old people live in poverty

You've mentioned you have endometriosis in another active thread, I have this too and relate to the regular abdominal pain and clotting. That could be responsible for the symptoms you are experiencing there?

I have Asherman’s too, and unfortunately it is due to abnormalities in how your womb lining heals, not malpractice. You also don’t know that the early losses are actually due to the Asherman’s - my Asherman’s blocked my tubes, but my miscarriages (post-adhesiolysis) were due to crap eggs (in my early 30s - I was unlucky on lots of fronts). I then had a textbook c-section, and the scarring from that completely obliterated any chance of further pregnancy - that isn’t the NHS’s fault, or my surgeon’s fault. It is part of the condition.

Get the adhesions properly sorted out. Get a fertility check to see how your ovarian reserve is. And keep at it - if you have had three pregnancies in three years, one of them will stick eventually (I had 1 pregnancy that ended in miscarriage, no further pregnancies for 3 years due to the Asherman’s, then 4 pregnancies in 3 years after adhesiolysis and the last one was DS).

I know it is hard, it was the worst time of my life. And I did blame the original surgeons at the time, but I wasn’t right about that, as the damage from my c-section has demonstrated.

I’m sorry for your loss. However you medically needed the d&c, so I don’t think the NHS can be blamed for any side effects of that.

I hope you get some answers on why you are having issues.

I'm so sorry for you've gone and are going through, op. And I know that with the nhs in its current state you must feel blocked at every turn, but I don't thibk you have a case as it stands. You need a proper diagnosis for your current condition and any legal action would only be viable if backed up by solid evidence.

I'm so sorry you're going through this OP. I also had a D&C at 11 weeks and I worried about womb scarring afterwards which I was aware could be a complication and I already had fertility issues.

Unfortunately although it's fairly rare, scarring can be a side effect of an uterine surgery. I can understand you're angry if you think it could be linked to your D&C but I doubt anyone could be held accountable. 💐