Prince Andrew taken back into the fold this weekend.

[Wishiwasinmalta]

AIBU or will the popularity of the RF drop like a lead balloon if they keep on doing this?

Because sometimes, just sometimes, it’s a better option to settle a claim than have it play out in court.

Let me repeat. He is widely believed to have paid her 12 million. But yes, I'm sure that could have happened to anyone 🤪

Yes, it does mean false accusations will be made, as seen by Virginia Giuffre’s admission of false accusations this week

Andrew has played an enormous role in implicating himself here. We all saw that interview and the bollocks spouted within it.

We can scrap about it and see who loves their muthas the most
you see in my mind it’s mutha, although I acknowledge but don’t concede on the muvva pronunciation

Sounds like OP checked their facts and realised they were wrong

@Kanaloa because fundamentally this country is still very racist. Being mixed race and American. She never stood a chance

Andrew has played an enormous role in implicating himself here. We all saw that interview and the bollocks spouted within it.

It's just like wot MY mutha always used to tell me:

better to keep your mouth shut and have people only BELIEVE you're a lying, morally degenerate scumbag ... than open it and remove all doubt.

better to keep your mouth shut and have people only BELIEVE you're a lying, morally degenerate scumbag ... than open it and remove all doubt.

Exactly. Massive fuck up there

thats proper deep @Butchyrestingface
Your mutha is quite the philosopher

This thread has everything. Posters turning on posters. Grammar pedants. A vanishing OP. People taking things out of context and a massive helping of Daily Mail-esque outrage, trial by media, and abject bullshit.
And in the midst of it all, @bellac11 who made a very valid point that many posters are ignoring re: the definition of a paedo.

But here's one for you. If A really wanted to do stuff with a 17 year old because her age fed into some sort of fetish, why would he travel abroad to do it in a country with an age of consent of 18 rather than just doing it in his own country where it would have been perfectly legal? I think it's far more likely he unintentionally cocked up, didn't realise her age until later, then paid her off to try and make it go away. At least, that was my opinion before the VG news this week. Now... who knows if anything even happened or if he paid her off to get her to shut up and go away.

This story is a perfect example of how a lie can run around the world before the truth can get its boots on.

The issue wasn't her age, but the fact she was trafficked

But there was a good chance Andrew wouldn't have known that. I doubt JE and MG were shouting about what they were doing.

@justgettingthroughtheday

Right, even though he may have been sleazy and probably didn’t ask any questions, I seriously doubt Andrew would have risked so much on sex with a trafficked woman when let’s face it, he could easily get the same with a wide variety of legal escorts/prostitutes.

I think it’s like let he didn’t know but just payed money in the hope it would go away. I also doubt he asked or she told whether she was 17 or 18 (and isn’t 17 or 16 the age of consent anyway?)

I'm not condoning how Andrew has behaved. But I think (hope) it was stupidly and arrogance that's got him into this mess rather than malice. I don't believe he knew about the trafficking even though he is revolting.

But there was a good chance Andrew wouldn't have known that. I doubt JE and MG were shouting about what they were doing.

Ignorance isn't a legal defence though.

Quite what he thought these young girls were doing at these Uber rich socialites parties, given they young enough to be his daughters and from wildly differing social backgrounds, is an interesting one, hmm? Did he think they were bessie mates with Epstein?

And if he thought she was meaningfully consenting to sex with him, why didn't he just say that?

But he didn't. He denied ever meeting her.

Thank you, @Emotionalsupportviper - I should have checked. I’m such a numpty.

Andrew York hasn't been taken 'back into the fold'.

The King is many things but he's not an idiot.

Virginia Giuffre has reached a settlement out of court. She is entitled to do this. Just as Andrew York was. He still knowingly consorted with a convicted trafficker and paedophile. He still did a disastrous TV interview with Emily Maitlis. He was still mates with convicted trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell. He is still a waste of space.

And Andrew York is still alleged to have had sex with a trafficked 17 year old.

'Back into the fold' my arse.

We know that he chose to be close mates with a convicted sex offender.
not sure about your moral threshold but that would be a serious concern for me

That is utter bollocks!!! She was welcomed by the vast majority as a breath of fresh air, and had a £ multimillion wedding. She was invited to Christmas with the RF before she and Harry were married, unlike any other Royal bride. She did an engagement with the Queen early in the marriage, when the Queen gifted her jewellery.

Harry was one of the most popular members of the royal family. He was a bit naughty - he was in the armed forces, and fundamentally he was still seen as the little boy following his mother's coffin. People were happy that he seemed to have found happiness.

Everything that ensued was down to H&M's greed.

I agree. Any doubts I might have had disappeared when watching that interview. He was so clearly lying.

Then why did he choose to be friends with a convicted sex offender got years @justgettingthroughtheday ?
odd choice of companionship for someone with nothing to gain

I would LOVE to know what Meghan Sussex thinks of Andrew York.

It is not bollocks. The Royal Family apparently thought she was white when they first met her.
The multi-million pound wedding was not a gift. It is what the Royal Family do to create a spectacle and get support from the public.
Harry was popular.
But the attacks on Meghan started before they were even married. Just search threads on here if you have forgotten. Loads of awful and nasty threads about Meghan.

Well JE was already a convicted child sex offender before Andrew befriended him - do you SERIOUSLY think Andrew’s aides and advisors didn’t counsel him against befriending a convicted criminal @justgettingthroughtheday ?

he knew.
he chose that association

i wonder why 🤔

I am afraid whatever the tabloid press decide we should feel, we will.
Years of press articles saying Charles is an idiot means most people think he is.
I note more flattering articles about Charles is the press these days. So I genuinely wonder how long before the “Popularise Charles” project bears fruit.
of course the tabloids need someone else as the bad guys…. Oh wait…Megan and Harry.
All sorted, carry on.

How can you watch the Andrew interview and not realise he is a big fat liar? The man was so obviously lying. You are incredibly naive if you could watch that and believe him.