Prince Andrew taken back into the fold this weekend.

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AIBU or will the popularity of the RF drop like a lead balloon if they keep on doing this?

Have H and M sued Tom Bower and Valentine Low yet ? Or demanded an apology?

Ive no idea what you're referencing, but they have challenged press accounts on multiple occasions

The 2 books that have been extensively discussed on MN .
Revenge by Tom Bower and Courtiers by Valentine Low.

I don't know any details, so like I say I can't comment on those examples. However the have challenged press accounts and gone to court on multiple occasions.

Not that they needed to go to court on this instance. All it would have taken was a press release confirming the amount.

As far as we know, two thoroughly sourced and written books have not had any of their contents challenged. As we all know, H & M are unlikely to allow anything they disagree with slide by. Unlike Her late Majesty who followed the belief that the RF family should 'never complain, never explain'. Be interesting to see if the King handles it differently come January.

Goodness me , all over the newspapers on the news , endlessly discussed on MN but you don’t know ?
Briefly, books ( especially TB) were very critical of MM and H . Alleged she is bully etc . Strong stuff. Yet not a peep from either of them. Strange.

Her late Majesty who followed the belief that the RF family should 'never complain, never explain'.

Thats not really relevant to false, easily verifiable, damaging information published by multiple sources around the world. They'd be in serious trouble if it was.

Briefly, books ( especially TB) were very critical of MM and H . Alleged she is bully etc . Strong stuff. Yet not a peep from either of them. Strange.

How do you know they aren't planning it right now? They're no stranger to the courts after all.

However in Andrew's case, all it would have taken was a press release and then the various publications correcting their accounts as a result.

Oh I think we would have heard by now !

As far as Andrew is concerned why does it matter to you if it was 3 million. , 12 million or whatever ?

As far as Andrew is concerned why does it matter to you if it was 3 million. , 12 million or whatever ?

I can ask you the same question?

Truth is important. I think we're all entitled to know the details of a civil settlement that Andrew had to tap up the actual Monarch to cover.

Oh I think we would have heard by now !

Im not sure what point you're making with regards to Andrew though, as these two are good examples of how there's precedence for royals taking on the press, regardless of what their re doing in this instance.

So long as the money ( whatever it was ) doesn’t come from public funds , I can’t see it’s anyone’s business .
Well , M “ taking on the press “ didn’t go too well for her did it ?
H’s threat to sue the BBC over Lilibet’s name didn’t come to anything .
H’s attempts to get the British taxpayers to pay for his security are fading faster than my suntan .
There were some serious , unpleasant allegations especially about MM and, if it was me , I would hotfoot It to my lawyer .
Unless , the allegations are true ….

So long as the money ( whatever it was ) doesn’t come from public funds , I can’t see it’s anyone’s business

We have absolutely no way of knowing that however, as their accounts aren't public information.

Well , M “ taking on the press “ didn’t go too well for her did it ?

They won at least some of the motions they took however. Not really the point, regardless. Other royals have done it and if Andrew was able to show legal docs, this particular situation would have been cut and dried.

I am responding to your earlier post ;

“TheKeatingFive · Today 15:20
What you’re providing and relying on is nothing but a story.

No. It's an account, in the press, reported as fact and never challenged, retracted or corrected.

According to you, everything in the press is just a 'story' so what's the point of it then? Why do we have courts of law or reporting guidance bodies that ensure false information doesn't stand?”

All I am saying is that extracts from TB and VL’s books have been all over the media and reported as fact yet not a peep from the Montecito Moaners .

All I am saying is that extracts from TB and VL’s books have been all over the media and reported as fact yet not a peep from the Montecito Moaners

Again, I don't see the point you think you're making. They have challenged the press before, they may be planning to again, or not, who knows.

In Andrew's case, it would have been very easy to challenge the figure. It wouldn't have even involved the courts.

You just don’t want to see the point !
Ok I will make it simple . You think that Andrew / whoever should clarify or correct what some of the media reported about the settlement to VG because unless they do then the press reports are right yet you don’t think M and H should challenge the frankly awful allegations made about them ? By that logic you accept the stuff written by TB , VL and others are true.
Off to pub .

You think that Andrew / whoever should clarify or correct what some of the media reported about the settlement to VG because unless they do then the press reports are right yet you don’t think M and H should challenge the frankly awful allegations made about them ?

As I keep saying, you don't know they aren't planning to. They have form.

More generally, the decision would come down to how easy it is to disprove weighed against how damaging the accusation is.

In Andrew's case, an immensely damaging accusation, that uncorrected brings the queen and (potentially public funds) into it. Which would have been very easy to set straight. It would make no sense at all to let it stand.

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IIRC the statement about the out of court settlement stated that the details were confidential. It’s what usually happens with out of court settlements.

It has been previously stated in court that VG’s original settlement with JE was for $500,000 so I doubt that the £12 million figure is correct. That does explain VG’s “mistaken” (revenge) identification of AD though who was JE’s lawyer.

His lawyers have said it was £3m. So that is more of a confirmation then speculation by newspapers. And VG hasn't denied it so by your reasoning that must make that figure true. 🙄

Links please

He wasn't taken back into the fold. The King has firmly kept York in the cold, just this week he appointed Anne & Edward to senior positions, blanking York.

His lawyers have said it was £3m. So that is more of a confirmation then speculation by newspapers.

No. An unnamed off the record source said it. There was no direct communication from his lawyers there.

IIRC the statement about the out of court settlement stated that the details were confidential. It’s what usually happens with out of court settlements.

He wouldn't have had to make anything public info though. Just correct the statement.

An unnamed source from his lawyers. That's more credible than open speculation. And VG hasn't denied it, so....