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To think that not sleeping around when married isn't that big a deal?

131 replies

Janbohonut · 12/11/2022 16:44

Just read an interview with Tim Minchin and he talks about how in his career he travels a lot, loves women, loves to flirt and has got really close at times, especially when women are literally shaking and in tears at meeting him, but then he realised his marriage was too important to throw away.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-07/tim-minchin-reassesses-comedy-approach/101564662

"You're away from home for a long time, you're jet-lagged, you're drinking. I think the times I got close to doing the wrong thing made me realise it wouldn't be worth it to blow my marriage... I'm away a lot and I am in a really flamboyant industry and I'm really flirtatious and I really like women."

And meanwhile his wife, who supported him as a social worker at the start, is sitting there having to listen to all this.

I mean, in most long marriages there have presumably been opportunities for both parties. Either you act on them or you don't. But I can't imagine a celebrity woman talking in front of her husband about how she loves men and loves to flirt and had loads of chances to cheat, but didn't. It felt like a gigantic humble brag.

OP posts:
FurAndFeathers · 12/11/2022 19:24

FallingsHowIFeel · 12/11/2022 19:18

There’s a few people on here who seem very over protective of poor old Timmy. What a poor lamb having to stay strong when faced with so many women. He really does need praises for not sticking his dick into every willing woman. 😂

Ah great way of making a case - a Personal attack!

🙄

because god forbid someone should have a different opinion

have you ever thought that if you’re encountering so many dickheads, there may be a common denominator?

Pumperthepumper · 12/11/2022 19:25

Ah no @FurAndFeathers - I’m getting you confused with @Blossomtoes - so just to be clear, I didn’t say he had cheated.

LafayetteCwenchinglyMcQuaffen · 12/11/2022 19:25

@FurAndFeathers 😂

Janbohonut · 12/11/2022 19:25

I'd rather be with a man who only read Shakespeare and Dickens than one who didn't read at all.
Anyway you sound excessively woke. People are allowed to have favourite authors (or composers or chefs etc) and just because their top 6 don't include ethnic minorities and women, it doesn't reflect badly on them.

Well he's dyslexic so I can forgive him not reading fiction. I'm just grateful he doesn't bleat on in public about how despite all the difficulties he's faced he didn't fuck anyone extra today.

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LafayetteCwenchinglyMcQuaffen · 12/11/2022 19:27

FallingsHowIFeel · 12/11/2022 19:21

And every single man I’ve known that said they love women has been a total dickhead. No exception.

He doesn't come across as a very "masculine" man. I think he probably loves women because he respects them.

Ladyflip · 12/11/2022 19:27

Well I've fancied him for at least a decade. Clever, funny and very musically talented. Not a dickhead, but brutally honest.

FuckFuckGo · 12/11/2022 19:28

Someone I dated briefly played ‘that’ song to me and told me more or less what TM himself had said about it. The ick was instantaneous.

SunscreenCentral · 12/11/2022 19:29

Onnabugeisha · 12/11/2022 16:59

He is almost 50 now, no one looks that great at his age.
But twenty five years ago he had the Australian long haired surfer boy look about him. I wouldn’t have kicked him out of bed.

Speak for yourself!! Lol...

FallingsHowIFeel · 12/11/2022 19:29

FurAndFeathers · 12/11/2022 19:24

Ah great way of making a case - a Personal attack!

🙄

because god forbid someone should have a different opinion

have you ever thought that if you’re encountering so many dickheads, there may be a common denominator?

Yes, the common denominator is men. There’s a lot of bad ones out there. Have you not heard women discuss their experiences of online dating? I’ve been with my partner for a long time now but still have to fend off the occasional ‘over friendly’ men who think they’re gods gift. They’re just ‘so flirty and love women’. 🤮 aka.. will shag anyone and think very highly of themselves. It would be more unusual to not encounter these men.

eyebright22 · 12/11/2022 19:30

I don't think there's anything wrong with what he said. It's the truth - he is attractive (to some), very talented and would have been hit on a lot over the years.

He also clearly has a very strong relationship with his wife, so I doubt she gives a toss that he is telling an obvious truth that there has been a lot of opportunities - but that he values his marriage to have acted on them.

tommyhoundmum · 12/11/2022 19:31

Who he?

Ladyflip · 12/11/2022 19:35

He's a comedian who sings songs and wrote Matilda the musical

FurAndFeathers · 12/11/2022 19:35

Janbohonut · 12/11/2022 19:25

I'd rather be with a man who only read Shakespeare and Dickens than one who didn't read at all.
Anyway you sound excessively woke. People are allowed to have favourite authors (or composers or chefs etc) and just because their top 6 don't include ethnic minorities and women, it doesn't reflect badly on them.

Well he's dyslexic so I can forgive him not reading fiction. I'm just grateful he doesn't bleat on in public about how despite all the difficulties he's faced he didn't fuck anyone extra today.

Is he enormously talented and famous?

if not then he bleat on all he likes. I’m not sure anyone’s actually that interested in your relationship!

FurAndFeathers · 12/11/2022 19:36

FallingsHowIFeel · 12/11/2022 19:29

Yes, the common denominator is men. There’s a lot of bad ones out there. Have you not heard women discuss their experiences of online dating? I’ve been with my partner for a long time now but still have to fend off the occasional ‘over friendly’ men who think they’re gods gift. They’re just ‘so flirty and love women’. 🤮 aka.. will shag anyone and think very highly of themselves. It would be more unusual to not encounter these men.

Perhaps I just have different standards for acquaintances

FallingsHowIFeel · 12/11/2022 19:39

eyebright22 · 12/11/2022 19:30

I don't think there's anything wrong with what he said. It's the truth - he is attractive (to some), very talented and would have been hit on a lot over the years.

He also clearly has a very strong relationship with his wife, so I doubt she gives a toss that he is telling an obvious truth that there has been a lot of opportunities - but that he values his marriage to have acted on them.

It depends where your bar is I guess. For me, knowing a woman was flirting with my partner wouldn’t be an issue. He can’t control their actions. But he can control his own. It’s normal to find other people attractive but flirting with other women snd especially ‘coming close to doing the wrong thing’, would be too much for me. You shit it down way before you come close to cheating.

GyozaGuiting · 12/11/2022 19:43

@FurAndFeathers I like the guy! No judgement here.
But if you’re willing to say THIS, you’ve done something. In my experience of men, and I’ve worked in male dominated industries for the last 20 years.
Hey, he may be the exception, let’s hope so.

FallingsHowIFeel · 12/11/2022 19:46

FurAndFeathers · 12/11/2022 19:36

Perhaps I just have different standards for acquaintances

They’re not even acquaintances. Men in bars, men at the supermarket, men at the garage etc, I don’t know them. They just want to talk to women, they love women. Although not quite as much as they love themselves.Their need for attention turns them into utter dickheads. Not my type at all.

GyozaGuiting · 12/11/2022 19:49

@FallingsHowIFeel I agree- if he ‘flirts with women and comes close to cheating’ that’s too much.
I’m around men all the time for work things, I don’t flirt. And in 15 years of marriage haven’t come lose to cheating.
I don’t expect an award.

OldFan · 12/11/2022 19:54

Sounds like boasting. I suppose he does seem a bit of a prick with a large ego sometimes. Flirting isn't something someone in a relationship should do. And if you do, even worse to rub it in by mentioning it in front of your partner.

PurpleButterflyWings · 12/11/2022 20:04

@Onnabugeisha

He is almost 50 now, no one looks that great at his age.

😂 PMSL just when I thought I had read it all on here! As a pp said, speak for yourself!

Also re the OP. Women 'cry and shake' when they meet him Are they mumsnetters? Confused 😂

As for Minchin. He is repugnant to me. Gross. 🤮 Wouldn't touch him with a 90 foot barge pole, even if the survival of the human race depended on it!

Mamette · 12/11/2022 20:12

has got really close at times, especially when women are literally shaking and in tears at meeting him

Puke

Why are these the ones he finds “especially” hard to resist Confused

FurAndFeathers · 12/11/2022 20:20

FallingsHowIFeel · 12/11/2022 19:46

They’re not even acquaintances. Men in bars, men at the supermarket, men at the garage etc, I don’t know them. They just want to talk to women, they love women. Although not quite as much as they love themselves.Their need for attention turns them into utter dickheads. Not my type at all.

You get men in the supermarket strolling up to you to tell you they love women?!?

we clearly lead very different lives 😂

waterlego · 12/11/2022 20:23

I think because they clearly adored him and he found that immensely flattering. This is what he talks about in the interview: that fame can turn you into a wanker. Because you’re surrounded by people constantly telling you how great you are, and you eventually start to believe your own hype. I can totally see how it happens. Fame has made wankers of plenty of people over the years. Many of them just descend into the shitty behaviour without a backward glance, without questioning what they’re doing (especially if they no longer have someone from their ‘old life’ helping them keep their feet on the ground).

TM is being open about how that happens, how it felt when it happened to him, and how he extracted himself from it.

gotelltheoldmandowntheroad · 12/11/2022 20:36

Bragging he’s attractive cause he’s not. It’s insecurity

eyebright22 · 12/11/2022 20:41

Mamette · 12/11/2022 20:12

has got really close at times, especially when women are literally shaking and in tears at meeting him

Puke

Why are these the ones he finds “especially” hard to resist Confused

It doesn't say that in the article. He talks about women 'shaking and crying' as an example of the overwhelming attention he suddenly got. Not that he found that something sexually attractive.

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