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To think that not sleeping around when married isn't that big a deal?

131 replies

Janbohonut · 12/11/2022 16:44

Just read an interview with Tim Minchin and he talks about how in his career he travels a lot, loves women, loves to flirt and has got really close at times, especially when women are literally shaking and in tears at meeting him, but then he realised his marriage was too important to throw away.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-11-07/tim-minchin-reassesses-comedy-approach/101564662

"You're away from home for a long time, you're jet-lagged, you're drinking. I think the times I got close to doing the wrong thing made me realise it wouldn't be worth it to blow my marriage... I'm away a lot and I am in a really flamboyant industry and I'm really flirtatious and I really like women."

And meanwhile his wife, who supported him as a social worker at the start, is sitting there having to listen to all this.

I mean, in most long marriages there have presumably been opportunities for both parties. Either you act on them or you don't. But I can't imagine a celebrity woman talking in front of her husband about how she loves men and loves to flirt and had loads of chances to cheat, but didn't. It felt like a gigantic humble brag.

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butterfliedtwo · 12/11/2022 17:39

W0tnow · 12/11/2022 17:02

He said a lot more than that. He very eloquently put into words how, when everyone, EVERYONE you deal with thinks you’re shit hot, you start to think so too. And it’s easy to turn into an arsehole, in fact, it’s difficult not to. He saw he was vulnerable to fame, and made an active decision not to be a prick, and not just about infidelity. I like him.

Exactly this.

ancientgran · 12/11/2022 17:50

Janbohonut · 12/11/2022 17:08

So he's been talking about the major achievement of not cheating on his wife for a while now?

He doesn't say it's a major achievement though. He's talking about the fact that his marriage is worth more than casual sex. I don't know what's wrong with that. He isn't asking for accolades.

Onlyforcake · 12/11/2022 17:53

He does have a 'practiced' smugness about doing the right on thing. This is just part of it. He thinks a lot if himself, like a lot of privileged white men. He pits on a good show.

fanjosaysi · 12/11/2022 17:53

I've had conversations with my dh where I've told him that I came close to cheating. Nights out with the girls where I've had one too many drinks and an attractive bloke has been interested etc. I've admitted to him that I was flattered and tempted but ultimately turned the bloke down. He has also told me similar. I think it's part of being in an honest relationship. I'd feel like I'd done something wrong if I didn't tell him and would have been wracked with guilt.

Ehhh, I fee like the noble thing to do is not put yourself in situations where you're too drunk to think and coming close to cheating on a regular basis. I don't think this is healthy, personally, it's just causing anxiety for your partner and putting yourself first. Some things don't need to be said, because you could just like - you know- not do that thing that's making you get tempted

sentientpuddle · 12/11/2022 17:54

I've just Googled his wife. He is seriously punching.

BobbyBobbyBobby · 12/11/2022 18:00

I’ve never heard of him so I googled him and discovered this prat -

I can only think there is another Tim Minchin or the comments allegedly made by him are satire.

To think that not sleeping around when married isn't that big a deal?
Middledazedted · 12/11/2022 18:04

It made me laugh. It’s how I feel - I would give anything but … There is an honesty there about the lust for sex and the perils of fame. He thinks plenty of himself - you have to in his job and that can easily fuck things up

JudgeJ · 12/11/2022 18:04

W0tnow · 12/11/2022 17:02

He said a lot more than that. He very eloquently put into words how, when everyone, EVERYONE you deal with thinks you’re shit hot, you start to think so too. And it’s easy to turn into an arsehole, in fact, it’s difficult not to. He saw he was vulnerable to fame, and made an active decision not to be a prick, and not just about infidelity. I like him.

That's how I read it too, he was saying that when you're famous it's thrown at you and he took the conscious decision to be faithful to his wife. Those going on about his looks, are we allowed to be so dismissive about a woman's looks now?

LunaRabbit · 12/11/2022 18:07

Can't be bothered to read the entire link, but imo you shouldn't even be flirting with other people if you're married, especially if it takes so much self-control to not cheat on your wife.

W0tnow · 12/11/2022 18:07

Janbohonut · 12/11/2022 17:08

So he's been talking about the major achievement of not cheating on his wife for a while now?

😂 If you’re determined to think he’s an arse, go ahead. It makes no difference to me!

Like I said, he talked about a lot more than that, firstly, a few years ago. To my knowledge he’s not been banging on about it since. 🤷‍♀️ He’s just written a song, recently, is all. He’s giving interviews to coincide about its release.

BadNomad · 12/11/2022 18:07

It doesn't sound like bragging to me, either. Just the self-awareness lacked by a lot of people in that industry.

W0tnow · 12/11/2022 18:11

JudgeJ · 12/11/2022 18:04

That's how I read it too, he was saying that when you're famous it's thrown at you and he took the conscious decision to be faithful to his wife. Those going on about his looks, are we allowed to be so dismissive about a woman's looks now?

He addresses his ‘look’ too. He slogged away for YEARS, supported by his imo, fabulous wife. He had one last crack, wrote some songs, put on eyeliner, mussed up his hair, and gave himself an image. So did Boy George, Alice Cooper, David Bowie. It’s not a new thing.

W0tnow · 12/11/2022 18:14

slate.com/technology/2013/09/tim-minchins-storm-critique-of-alternative-medicine-and-defense-of-reason-in-song.html

this is very old but brilliant.

no, I’m not his promoter 😂

Mouldyfoodhelp · 12/11/2022 18:15

So in the last few days I've seen David Williams be called all sorts because he gave an opinion on a woman and then I come back to MN and apparently now it's OK to insult a man's Appearance

Pumperthepumper · 12/11/2022 18:16

I suspect this will be a quote that comes back to bite him on the arse someday.

MarshaBradyo · 12/11/2022 18:20

Reading pp re gf since 17 and I’m willing to bet not a wild kid with loads of attention etc it must have felt like a new world

Not that it’s an excuse but kind of the geek that is more desirable

Not sure why but I heard more from him in an in-depth interview the other day on radio. It was quite interesting, the part where Hollywood said no after four years of production on a film

BruceWaynettaSlob · 12/11/2022 18:20

Mouldyfoodhelp · 12/11/2022 18:15

So in the last few days I've seen David Williams be called all sorts because he gave an opinion on a woman and then I come back to MN and apparently now it's OK to insult a man's Appearance

Are you new to Mumsnet?

FallingsHowIFeel · 12/11/2022 18:21

BadNomad · 12/11/2022 18:07

It doesn't sound like bragging to me, either. Just the self-awareness lacked by a lot of people in that industry.

That just means that those who do it are total twats, not that his not doing it is anything that needs highlighting.

If you’re in love with your partner, you’ll be invested in the relationship and not cheat. There’s nothing really needs saying about it. You don’t even get close to doing the wrong thing. You don’t encourage it and if anyone else is getting too close, you shut it down. He’s talking shit.

Pumperthepumper · 12/11/2022 18:23

Mouldyfoodhelp · 12/11/2022 18:15

So in the last few days I've seen David Williams be called all sorts because he gave an opinion on a woman and then I come back to MN and apparently now it's OK to insult a man's Appearance

Its because men’s appearances haven’t been used to oppress them for centuries. I know you want to pretend judging men and judging women is exactly the same, but it isn’t.

BruceWaynettaSlob · 12/11/2022 18:25

Christ on a bike, he's a comedian discussing his relationship. Standard stuff.

waterlego · 12/11/2022 18:25

Worth reading the article and watching the interview clip embedded in it for the whole context (as other posters have said).

In the video, Tim and his wife talk and joke about the song and the anecdotes behind it:

“That's a song about my darling husband, like, not cheating on me," says Sarah with a mischievous smile. "Congratulations. Well done, Tim."

She is obviously being sarky, laughing at him a little and he laughs along too. Looks like they have a nice relationship.

Mouldyfoodhelp · 12/11/2022 18:25

BruceWaynettaSlob · 12/11/2022 18:20

Are you new to Mumsnet?

No but I don't come on here as often as I used to and it's just having read one thread and then leaving and coming back and seeing the opposite happen just feels a bit ironic.

BruceWaynettaSlob · 12/11/2022 18:27

She is obviously being sarky, laughing at him a little and he laughs along too. Looks like they have a nice relationship

Nope. He's an abusive gaslighting walking red flag. She needs to ltb.

Pumperthepumper · 12/11/2022 18:28

Mouldyfoodhelp · 12/11/2022 18:25

No but I don't come on here as often as I used to and it's just having read one thread and then leaving and coming back and seeing the opposite happen just feels a bit ironic.

Is David Walliams here slagging off a man’s looks?

Thepeopleversuswork · 12/11/2022 18:28

Oblomov22 · 12/11/2022 16:51

What a strange thing to say. One of those things it is really best not to verbalise even if you do think it, Because it doesn't come out / doesn't come across very well.

I would put money on him already having cheated on her and being caught.

This is the script of someone whose spouse has offered him an ultimatum.

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