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AIBU for overreacting to comment by John Lewis

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filletofishmeal · 11/11/2022 10:04

I was on the phone to John Lewis as they failed to deliver an item ( did not put it on their load), and as the person was processing a new delivery date he was making small talk about the reason why I was purchasing a TV. I said it was for the cricket world up, and he asked who I thought I was going to win the tournament. I replied that I am British, so am backing England. He then told me that my name does not sound British, where are my parents from?
I snapped at that point and got a bit shirty with him, as I felt it was unreasonable for him to assume I am not British just because of my surname.

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fairydustt · 11/11/2022 20:22

SalviaOfficinalis · 11/11/2022 10:27

It’s not “just” friendly chit chat, there’s absolutely no need for him to comment on where your name is from. It’s basically implying that you can’t possibly be “properly” British because your ancestry may be from elsewhere.

I look white but have a “foreign” surname and people always think that I want to chat about “where my surname is from”.

I find it rude and intrusive. Perhaps not so easy for people with typically white British surnames to understand.

You know that where people can be from other places? What does looking white have to do with your post?

CantFindTheBeat · 11/11/2022 20:23

I'm not sure if I should report @ancientgran's post, or leave it as an example.

"You're successful and wealthy? Well I expect being racially abused doesn't affect you at all, then".

karmakameleon · 11/11/2022 20:30

fairydustt · 11/11/2022 20:21

Surely it's just normal family history? Some surnames did not originate from Britain .. not everyone has to be british it's not a bad thing to not be or to be British but have ancestors who weren't ..

I wonder if my old headmaster, Mr Higginbottom, was ever asked by a call centre operator about where his surname was from or its history. I mean, after all, it is unusual and probably has some history. Or would that just have been seen as rude?

CapMarvel · 11/11/2022 20:32

The irony of people desperate to see racism in everything telling those people who don't agree to "bore off" is absolutely staggering.

karmakameleon · 11/11/2022 20:34

CapMarvel · 11/11/2022 20:32

The irony of people desperate to see racism in everything telling those people who don't agree to "bore off" is absolutely staggering.

@CapMarvel

I notice one of your posts was deleted. Was it racist?

CapMarvel · 11/11/2022 20:39

karmakameleon · 11/11/2022 20:34

@CapMarvel

I notice one of your posts was deleted. Was it racist?

Not at all, thanks. Just the usual completely overzealous MN moderation because - gasp - I disagreed with someone and they ran off to mummy.

I despise racism and have experienced enty of it. I also have enough of a sensible head to recognise actual racism.

CapMarvel · 11/11/2022 20:40

Also: get a life and stop stalking people.

karmakameleon · 11/11/2022 20:40

CapMarvel · 11/11/2022 20:39

Not at all, thanks. Just the usual completely overzealous MN moderation because - gasp - I disagreed with someone and they ran off to mummy.

I despise racism and have experienced enty of it. I also have enough of a sensible head to recognise actual racism.

So mumsnet deleted it because they thought it was racist?

karmakameleon · 11/11/2022 20:41

CapMarvel · 11/11/2022 20:40

Also: get a life and stop stalking people.

It is the first deleted post so quite easy to see.

CapMarvel · 11/11/2022 20:41

karmakameleon · 11/11/2022 20:40

So mumsnet deleted it because they thought it was racist?

It wasn't racist at all, but thanks for proving my point.

CapMarvel · 11/11/2022 20:42

It said, if I recall. Yes you overreacted. Get a grip.

Oh noes, the horror.

karmakameleon · 11/11/2022 20:43

CapMarvel · 11/11/2022 20:41

It wasn't racist at all, but thanks for proving my point.

I’m not sure how that proves your point. Just seems clear that mumsnet deleted your post because they thought it was racist.

CapMarvel · 11/11/2022 20:45

Well, it wasn't. So.... yeah.

CapMarvel · 11/11/2022 20:46

Any time you want to apologise is fine, by the way.

VladmirsPoutine · 11/11/2022 20:47

As a general rule white people don't see any harm or racism in things like this because why would they. I do think he was out of order and even if it was clumsy it does get very tedious and annoying.

TheSomersetGimp · 11/11/2022 20:48

karmakameleon · 11/11/2022 20:30

I wonder if my old headmaster, Mr Higginbottom, was ever asked by a call centre operator about where his surname was from or its history. I mean, after all, it is unusual and probably has some history. Or would that just have been seen as rude?

Why would it be seen as rude? It's an interesting question. It's just bloody chit chat. It's what the clearly dispised English do. Make small talk. Try and be friendly to people. How bloody dare they 🙄

karmakameleon · 11/11/2022 20:50

Yep, I’m sure loads of people asked him all the time. He probably enjoyed sharing the history.

peanutbutterontoast7 · 11/11/2022 20:50

I've inherited. None English surname from my grandad. I never met him as he died young so I have no connection to my name or that's side of things.
Every single ti I have to share my name people comment and ask about it.
I take no offence, what's the offence? It's just conversions curiousity.
Obviously just my opinion and experience.

peanutbutterontoast7 · 11/11/2022 20:52

Oh my goodness the typos in my message!
I am sorry, I have no excuse other then sleepy eyes!

TheSomersetGimp · 11/11/2022 20:54

Higginbottom is a surname of English origin. It is a corruption of Oakenbottom, a place in Bolton-le-Moors, probably influenced by the dialect word hickin or higgin, the mountain ash. The name may refer to: Edward Higginbottom (born 1946), British choral director.

Learn something new every day.

phishy · 11/11/2022 20:56

CantFindTheBeat · 11/11/2022 20:23

I'm not sure if I should report @ancientgran's post, or leave it as an example.

"You're successful and wealthy? Well I expect being racially abused doesn't affect you at all, then".

I say leave it be as an example. She also reckons her husband is black when it suits her.

phishy · 11/11/2022 20:57

TheSomersetGimp · 11/11/2022 19:58

What a repulsive thing to say. Ever thought that you might be part of the problem not the solution. Comments like this make things worse for everyone. Including the people you think you're protecting. You're not. This is shit and divisive. The hatred, particularly for English people, is astonishing.

Calm down gimp.

TheSomersetGimp · 11/11/2022 20:58

Aww, my own little calm down stalker.

whoareyouinviting · 11/11/2022 21:13

Holy moly you need to chill out. That's just someone being friendly!!

phishy · 11/11/2022 21:17

TheSomersetGimp · 11/11/2022 20:58

Aww, my own little calm down stalker.

I don’t think you know what stalking means…

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