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MIL and her mentality

126 replies

Justnosing · 10/11/2022 12:16

I’d like to start by saying I have always had a good relationship with my MIL. I have been with DP for 12 years. Now more recently it’s becoming a little tetchy.

DP and I have a 4 year old DD. We won’t be having anymore children.

DP is 1 of 7 children, growing up they didn’t have much money spare. MIL and FIL definitely done the best they could, but my (secret) opinion is that they were unable to provide for each child adequately - emotionally and financially. I would never ever say this to them, but based on my observations this is what I believe to be true. It was their choice to have that amount of children (and they were contemplating more) knowing that they were not very well off, therefore lived frugally and any luxuries were saved hard for. MIL stayed at home until the youngest was 10, so they lived off FIL low income only until she got a mw job.

Currently, DP and I live a comfy life. We are not rolling in it (though I appreciate compared to some we are very well off). I can’t help but feel like my MIL is constantly trying to push her struggle onto me.

examples:

  • I LOVE holidays - it’s literally what I mainly work for. This year I’ve been on 6 and each time MIL has made a snarky comment about how I’ll be “skint” by the end of the year. Or “you must have money to burn” or “you should be happy with just one family holiday per year”. I’m not saying I wouldn’t be happy with one - but I’m fortunate enough to have more than one. And the tone in which these comments are made make them seem like subtle digs.
  • If I buy an “expensive” cut of meat for dinner. Cue “tsk, wouldn’t catch me spending that. How ridiculous” “isn’t that silly” (usually to FIL or SIL)
  • if I’m working 4 days per week instead of 3 (or god forbid a weekend) it’s “I need to learn to enjoy family life and be home for DD”
  • I’ve hired a cleaner. My belief is that - if you can afford to - outsource what you can. It makes life easier and more enjoyable. Her response was “fancy hiring a bloody cleaner, just do it yourself we all had to get on with work and housework when our kids were little”
  • We eat out/get takeaways regularly. It’s “cook your own meals, I don’t understand why people (looks at me) just can’t stand being at home these days.”
  • Christmas/birthday gifts for dd are always said to be “too much”
  • DD is spoiled and gets too much (she actually says this about other GC too so at least there’s that)
  • I mentioned that I thinking of getting a holiday home and then eventually we would move abroad. It was all “oh but (DPs) Job… DP DP DP” little does she know that it’s actually me who’s the higher earner now - I told her this and she hasn’t spoken to men since. Not so much as a text when we normally keep in touch. But has since “done her research” and has told DP it would be amazing for his career (it could be, but it’s definitely not a given)

writing them down, the examples don’t seem that bad but I suppose it’s the tone in which they’re said. I just feel there’s always a “well I struggled and you don’t know you’re born” undertone to our conversations. I’m not taking away from the fact that yes she did struggle. But I don’t have to. And there’s no reward at the end of life for who’s grafted the hardest.

AIBU to just not want to share things with her going forward even though me keeping things to myself has upset her in the past? How would you handle it? What sort of response would you give?

thanks if you got this far!

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Buteverythingsfine · 10/11/2022 12:22

I always give the same advice with these guilt tripping parents and PIL, just find a phrase and repeat it every time she starts up so 'things change, MIL' or 'that's our choice, I guess' and don't enter into discussions. I also wouldn't tell her anything yourself, let your DP take on the day to day management of the relationship. Be cheerful and nice, but emotionally keep yourself to yourself, you don't have to explain or discuss your life choice with her.

bloodywhitecat · 10/11/2022 12:22

I would keep quiet going forwards.

Notimeforaname · 10/11/2022 12:24

If you're not keen on telling her to fuck off...just say "that's nice" every time she tells you about the amazing things she managed as a mother.

I know someone who's a little like this..I always just repeat

"Oh god no, I couldn't live like that, I like things my way" ....always seems to infuriate them but they just nod along
😂

Notimeforaname · 10/11/2022 12:25

let your DP take on the day to day management of the relationship
Also, this.

SharpLily · 10/11/2022 12:26

Some people just love to share their misery and make a virtue out of disapproval - my mother does this, to the point that my husband doesn't even admit to buying me a birthday present because she hates me to have anything nice for myself. Ignore her, leave her to her misery.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 10/11/2022 12:26

I think I'd be most enraged at her clear fucking sexism.

You and dp are a pair, and along with dd, a family. Why is all her judgement towards you? Sexism that's why.

tealandteal · 10/11/2022 12:28

This sounds like my mum, I just say “Good thing we are all different” all light hearted. For some reason though she can’t retain the fact that I am the higher earner so now I don’t bother to correct that.

Quag2286 · 10/11/2022 12:32

I've found that some of the older generation are hugely affronted and almost take it as a personal insult if you choose to live differently to how they did.

I get similar from some family members.

ColeensBoot · 10/11/2022 12:32

Dont tell her anything.
And she is 100% blame the woman. So nothing you can do will be right. Ignore her and don't engage.

Justnosing · 10/11/2022 12:33

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 10/11/2022 12:26

I think I'd be most enraged at her clear fucking sexism.

You and dp are a pair, and along with dd, a family. Why is all her judgement towards you? Sexism that's why.

Well yes, this too.

also takes great issue with me having botox because I should learn to “grow old gracefully” 😂 that’s always a big telling off.

DP does manage the relationship, they are very close (not so close that he’s a mummy’s boy but it was a little bit to that tune at the beginning of our relationship). So she usually raises an eyebrow if I don’t accompany DP on his 3 x weekly visits. I think she feels I’m not bothering with her.

I’d just find it overbearing visiting anyone that much not just PIL. But everything is nice enough when we do get together 🙂

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Sparkletastic · 10/11/2022 12:36

There are some people that take others unwillingness to make the same life choices as then as a covert insult. MIL sounds far too enmeshed in your lives. Why should she know about your Botox habit?!

Beachbabe1 · 10/11/2022 12:37

I would wind her up more...well if we can afford it, why not!? Or...I'm so glad I dont have to struggle like you did! And..Im so glad I wasn't alive back in your day! That should shut her up!!

Pumpkinpatchlookinggood · 10/11/2022 12:38

Maybe point out to mil she had wealth in other areas... A very rich man who lived near us had a fleet of cars and was out polishing them one day as me and my ds's passed. He asked the boys if they would like to come through the gates and see the cars. He pointed out in his opinion I was richer than him having those boys. Was over 20 years ago but never left me. You sound quite judgey and imo think your choices are better than hers...
And a bit smug.

Amazongirl9 · 10/11/2022 12:39

The world was a different place when your MIL was your age, different expectations and opportunities etc. But she has no right to foist her opinions onto you. I see my young adult kids and DIL have a different lifestyle to mine at that age. Good on them. If she regrets her lack of opportunities or some choices she made, well that's on her. I do loath people who think that only their way is the right way. You aren't your IL's, live your life your way. And definitely share less. Could you shut her up with saying DP insisted on whatever it is that she disapproves of. Posh joint of beef - DP insisted, cleaner - DP insisted, another holiday - DP insisted and so on. Might help if it's you she is attacking.

Shinyandnew1 · 10/11/2022 12:40

I would tell her far less about your day to day lives and plans!

Dillydollydingdong · 10/11/2022 12:43

I'm probably your MIL's age and yes, things were tough when we were younger (some things you wouldn't believe!) But I'm just glad my ds and his wife can afford a better life. Expensive cuts of meat? Yes. Nice holidays? Yes. Tell her she's done a good job bringing dh up, as he and you are both successful in life.

hellswelshy · 10/11/2022 12:43

I get you op, I too generally get on well with my mil, but sometimes the comments on things I haven't asked an opinion on are infuriating! When we bought a new sofa she pointed out we didn't NEED a new one..so I replied she hadn't either when she replaced hers a few years back!! She does like to pass judgement on how we and bil family spend our money, but I try to let it go over my head and say something like ' well we work hard for our money so...' Agree with pp's, tell her less (I find that hard though!).

Beamur · 10/11/2022 12:43

Your life and values are just very very different.
She's unlikely to suddenly shake off the way she's lived her whole life and she does find your choices inexplicable.
Tell her less. Smile and nod. Let your DP do more of the contact here.

Lottapianos · 10/11/2022 12:45

You're telling her far too much about your business! You know she will be nasty and judgemental so keep it to yourself. Ok, you can't avoid her knowing about your holidays but Botox? That's private info

Her behaviour sounds extremely tiresome but you have to help yourself as well

OoooohMatron · 10/11/2022 12:45

Quag2286 · 10/11/2022 12:32

I've found that some of the older generation are hugely affronted and almost take it as a personal insult if you choose to live differently to how they did.

I get similar from some family members.

My mum is like this. If she hasn't done it or done it differently it's a load of bollocks. She's getting worse as she gets older.

Frazzledmummy123 · 10/11/2022 12:45

It sounds a bit like jealousy to me on her part. She probably is feeling quite insecure so feels the need to belittle things because she couldn't/didn't manage to do these things for her children when they were growing up. Perhaps she thinks it is making her look like a bad mum to her DS, not that this is any excuse at all for her comments, but my first thought reading your post was, jealousy and insecurity.

It isn't easy having someone constantly pass remarking on your life, trust me I have experience of this! If you feel you can, unless you want to address it directly with her (which I would advise against as this probably wouldn't end well), try to find a coping strategy to let her comments go by you. If you feel you can't do this, my only other suggestions are to stop sharing anything with her if these are responses you are going to get. Or, as much as you won't want to, is to massage her ego and start praising her about how she did such a great job with her kids, etc. If she is insecure, this might settle her down a bit.

Justnosing · 10/11/2022 12:47

Love the idea of telling her she’s done a great job bringing DP up. I think that could work!

I just needed anonymous the rant really as I wouldn’t want DP to think I was slagging his mum off to him.

and for those mentioning the Botox, they’re very much a family where everyone knows everything about each other. Your business is everyone’s business kind of thing

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MarieIVanArkleStinks · 10/11/2022 12:51

also takes great issue with me having botox because I should learn to “grow old gracefully” 😂 that’s always a big telling off.

I think it's time to put her on a strict information diet.

There is no way my MiL would know whether or not I had botox, or the ins and outs of any medical or cosmetic procedures I have. She doesn't need to, and that is nobody's business but mine.

I'd dial back my intimate confidences at this point, OP. The less she knows about you, the fewer the sticks she has to beat you with; not least this strictly falls under the category of your private business.

2bazookas · 10/11/2022 12:53

"Dear Mil, I know you love us and don't mean to cause offence. But commenting on our lifestyle and life choices does. We don't comment on yours, please do the same for us".

LovelyBitOfSquirrel69 · 10/11/2022 12:57

Nosy old cow, tell her to keep her beak out.