To be actually angry Matt Hancock is on I'm a Celebrity

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I can't actually believe the bare faced brass for him to be on the programme.

I was a manager of a care home during the height of the pandemic. I remember the outright lies he personally broadcast to the nation. How he told everyone there was a "protective ring" around care homes when we couldn't even buy PPE. How they said that tests were available for people living in care homes when this just wasn't true. How the policy was to discharge to care homes from hospitals.
How over 300 pieces of guidance were released in just 2 months. How a conscious decision was made to finslly allow care home staff to wear masks at 1130pm on a friday night. How we were left to send masks in taxis to other care managers in outbreak because none could be got. How our normal PPE suppliers were told to divert stock to the NHS. How my staff couldn't buy basic groceries because they were routinely told they were not "essential workers"

I have so many painful memories from the early days of the pandemic. I won't share them, I don't want to trigger anyone as I understand everyone had it hard and has experienced awful things. But suffice to say I was so traumatised by what happened, I have left nursing as a profession. My heart is broken. I literally have a montage of the worst bits I think about every day.

To see this man parading on TV, laughing and joking, earning an obscene amount of money for frivolty whilst nurses are striking for a fair pay rise after all of his very public failings that cost people's lives, all the while when he is supposed to be serving his constituents during a cost of living crisis makes me so angry.

AIBU?

Thanks knittedcardi - that's helpful. Yes - the public enquiry should be very interesting and can't come soon enough.

'I think at that point, it was still assumed Covid was a droplet infection, not aerosol. So, you had the 2 metre rule, but not isolation. Also, hospitals were told NOT to discharge actively ill patients, but those with no symptoms were OK to be discharged, as again, it was not known that it could spread asymptomatically'

Exactly, plus if they hadn't discharged those people ready for discharge quickly then the hospitals wouldn't have coped with the surge of admissions and they'd have been blamed for acting too slowly. Hospitals were seen as the high risk areas so getting people out was the priority.

Care homes should have isolated patients discharged, as they would do in any outbreak such as norovirus. Perhaps we'll find out in the inquiry why this didn't happen. Not blaming it on care homes but this isn't all Hancock's fault either.

We the taxpayers are PAYING this idiot to prance around earning 400K, payback for this is at the voting booth.

Is he doing it in his annual leave

They don't get annual.leave as they only sit in the House for 9 months a year.

Totally agree with you, it's a disgrace and already seen people falling for the nice guy act and saying he's great tv ..... vile!!
To think he did all those things whilst telling us all to stay at home and he was shagging his mistress. Makes my blood boil

You focused on him having an affair. From reading this thread thats the least of it. Did you not read peoples comments on here?

Do they only get paid for 9 months?!

What a joke. They should be forced to work all year.

I agree. We were denied contact with loved ones whilst he was shagging around. Appalling man.

My nan had to see my little one through a window. I will never forget the look on her face. Confusion.

I remember that awful “don’t kill granny”. Basically saying that if you’re a student and you go home for Xmas and give the virus to your nearest and dearest, it’s your fault”. Awful.

It was all awful but almost everyone lapped it up and wanted more. I guess you were all complaining at the time? Funny, as it didn't seem that way on mn, seemed like most people thought granny killing was a danger if you so much as looked at her through a window.

If it was a family holiday I’d be less concerned, although he should probably take a break when Parliament isn’t in session rather than when it’s sitting. This is a blatant attempt to line up some kind of media career, Ed Balls-style. The big difference is Ed Balls wasn’t an MP at the time and went on a fairly respectable dancing show. He wasn’t slumming it in the jungle eating kangaroo anus.

There were lots of messages throughout the pandemic that were with hindsight in my view ludicrous. I personally felt that we shouldn't have locked down and that the young were being ignored for the protection of the older generation - but that is in the past. The mistakes that were made and the right calls are all now past - Matt Hancock was not responsible for the pandemic. I don't think that is the reason for him not to appear on the tv as if that were the case there are a number of celebrities who would not be allowed to compete or feature on our screens due to their actions - some have even been prosecuted and convicted of crimes.

The point which is valid is that he is a sitting MP.

I dunno about lapping it up. I was definitely scared. But I also knew it was a virus. A virus does what a virus gonna do. Young people shouldn’t be blamed for the fact that a virus spreads and is harmful to older folk.

yes, i agree, I posted about it a lot, wrote to my MP, complained.

Everyone else? Sudden amnesia it seems and 'in retrospect ' blah blah.

A lot of people projecting outwards onto MH. If they weren't speaking up at the time then I am not interested

I agree he's got away with what in the private sector could be classed as corporate manslaughter. He let covid run rife in hospitals and care homes and left residents and staff unprepared and vulnerable. After watching the first episode he's already unpopular so it's nice to see he's almost universally unpopular

Re the droplet/aerosol argument guidance released in 2019 actually stated that COVID required negative pressure rooms and full masks/PPE.Later downgraded. I know as I did my first risk assessment off it.

It wasn't a decision made by Matt Hancock - it was the govt lead by Boris Johnson, using the advice given. I am not defending him being in the jungle but I think the comments about his role in the pandemic are not accurate

Well it may have been the gvnmt as a whole, rather than Hancock individually, but the High Court didn’t find in their favour

I blame Hancock and the govt for not preparing properly - they could see what was happening in Italy, but didn't buy PPE, allowed sports events to go ahead.
And I blame him for shagging his bit on the side, having told us we couldn't see our families, couldn't have proper funerals, have a birth partner with women throughout the whole of labour. It was okay for us to make these sacrifices but not him. And it was his fucking policy.
I think about all those poor students locked into halls and being treated like criminals, the fines that ordinary people incurred for stupid shit like having snowball fights. And he and BJ snd Dominic Cummings were carrying on as normal, having imposed this on us.
And that's before you get to the care homes situation.
Bow I do think he became the party scapegoat when you see what other people in the government were doing at the time, including the PM. But there's no way he should be capitalising in his notoriety to make shitloads of money - he should be home trying to serve his constituents with the time he has left as an MP.
The only upside I can see to him being there is that this money might give his poor wife a good divorce settlement!

Agree with all this too, although it would have been hard to completely isolate people who needed care. Maybe they did try this later but to huge detriment on mh

The first Covid outbreak was mid January 2020 in Wuhan, so that’s not possible.

He's is the most poisonous snake in that jungle!

The students at school keep asking me if I'm watching I'm a celebrity and I politely say no.

What I really want to say is: there is no fucking way I want to watch that absolutely fucking cunt parading around the jungle. Especially when he and his party literally have blood running off their hands.

Two-faced lying cockwomble with massive double standards.

So no my little loves I am not watching I'm a celebrity.

I blame Hancock and the govt for not preparing properly

The war gaming had been premised on a flu pandemic for years. No-one foresaw a SARS virus stepping up to the plate.

Covid was never the big one. That's apparently brewing on a chicken farm in the arse end of nowhere which probably explains the hand-wringing over the current outbreak of bird flu...