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To be actually angry Matt Hancock is on I'm a Celebrity

201 replies

Lex345 · 10/11/2022 07:01

I can't actually believe the bare faced brass for him to be on the programme.

I was a manager of a care home during the height of the pandemic. I remember the outright lies he personally broadcast to the nation. How he told everyone there was a "protective ring" around care homes when we couldn't even buy PPE. How they said that tests were available for people living in care homes when this just wasn't true. How the policy was to discharge to care homes from hospitals.
How over 300 pieces of guidance were released in just 2 months. How a conscious decision was made to finslly allow care home staff to wear masks at 1130pm on a friday night. How we were left to send masks in taxis to other care managers in outbreak because none could be got. How our normal PPE suppliers were told to divert stock to the NHS. How my staff couldn't buy basic groceries because they were routinely told they were not "essential workers"

I have so many painful memories from the early days of the pandemic. I won't share them, I don't want to trigger anyone as I understand everyone had it hard and has experienced awful things. But suffice to say I was so traumatised by what happened, I have left nursing as a profession. My heart is broken. I literally have a montage of the worst bits I think about every day.

To see this man parading on TV, laughing and joking, earning an obscene amount of money for frivolty whilst nurses are striking for a fair pay rise after all of his very public failings that cost people's lives, all the while when he is supposed to be serving his constituents during a cost of living crisis makes me so angry.

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Alltheprettyseahorses · 10/11/2022 10:39

A serving MP shouldn't be on the show. However, it would be a total waste of time contacting my MP to complain (Liverpool) as he seems permanently out of action anyway so maybe Hancock's constituents have the better deal as they'll have an MP again in a few weeks 🤷🏻‍♀️. Or not 🤣.

I genuinely don't get the outrage over covid. I am sorry for anyone who lost a loved one, it's awful - but how can we stop a global pandemic that has spread before we even know it exists? We're all human and mortal despite our current attempt to disconnect from the natural world. Lessons can be learned but expecting politicians to magically save us all is ridiculous and generally political posturing more than anything else, especially when it seems the UK did relatively well.

CathyorClaire · 10/11/2022 10:43

Mike Tindall is so nice, very interesting to watch his body language over this

Mike Tindall the creepy groper?

Doje · 10/11/2022 10:43

I think it's disgusting that he's gone in. He's either utterly oblivious to his huge failings during the pandemic or has no shame.

I want to clear out the other celebrities and ship in people like you OP to make him see what he did, and also to make anyone else that still supports him, see how inept and deceitful he (and the rest of the government) were.

CousinKrispy · 10/11/2022 10:48

Agree with you completely.

CousinKrispy · 10/11/2022 10:52

Alltheprettyseahorses--I can't speak for others, but I certainly didn't expect the government to "save us all" from covid, that would have been impossible. I do want my elected leaders to behave with integrity and competence, so to provide PPE and tests to the settings where it was needed, and to make sensible policies so that family members didn't have to suffer and die alone needlessly, when visits from family could have been allowed. And sensible policies allowing healthy citizens to make their own judgments about social contacts with each other, rather than laws against ordinary mixing that was necessary for people's mental health. The latter is especially galling when a minister is caught on camera groping a colleague with whom he doesn't share a household.

KnittedCardi · 10/11/2022 10:52

Alltheprettyseahorses · 10/11/2022 10:39

A serving MP shouldn't be on the show. However, it would be a total waste of time contacting my MP to complain (Liverpool) as he seems permanently out of action anyway so maybe Hancock's constituents have the better deal as they'll have an MP again in a few weeks 🤷🏻‍♀️. Or not 🤣.

I genuinely don't get the outrage over covid. I am sorry for anyone who lost a loved one, it's awful - but how can we stop a global pandemic that has spread before we even know it exists? We're all human and mortal despite our current attempt to disconnect from the natural world. Lessons can be learned but expecting politicians to magically save us all is ridiculous and generally political posturing more than anything else, especially when it seems the UK did relatively well.

I completely agree with you. It will be very interesting to see the outcome of the public enquiry as to the decisions made during the pandemic. People seem to think politicians, like Hancock, made up decisions by themselves. This is fantasy. They take advice, advice from the WHO who, let's not forget, did not confirm Covid was spread by airborne particle until some months in. From scientists, all who had different views. From social analysts, from economists.

Personally I hope that the outcome will confirm that the decision to lock down so strictly, and for so long, and to "protect the NHS" will, in the long term, cause more damage than the pandemic itself did.

Oh, and by the way, I lost both my parents in a care home, in mid January 2021. When there was every preventative measure in place. It made no difference. The only difference was the vaccination program, which they just missed.

blackpearwhitelilies · 10/11/2022 10:53

It blows my mind that there is anyone who could possibly think you're being unreasonable. You aren't. I'm so sorry for what you went through.

Thinkbiglittleone · 10/11/2022 10:55

I can't agree more OP.
It is a disgrace and makes me furious that he is on there.
I shan't be watching as it will just make me too angry as I imagine he will be viewed in an ok light as he is going in to change public perception of him and he's hoping people are going to fall for it, it saddens me that I think a lot will.
It saddens me that people will forget what his ,at best, negligent behaviour cost people, he is no celebrity and shouldn't be in there. He's a disgrace of a human.

blackpearwhitelilies · 10/11/2022 10:55

Anyone wanting to know how UK politicans could have done better should read Rachel Clarke's devastating book Breathless. But actually you just have to see the OP and be reminded about the PPE farce and the lies that were told.

Definitelycross · 10/11/2022 10:57

XanaduKira · 10/11/2022 08:50

Until these threads @Punxsutawney, I had no clue about BG & his background as I'm not a fan & it seems like when it happened, I wasn't living in the UK so hadn't seen the news of it.

Not sure why the 2 are being brought together though? I can agree with what BG says & feel he represents my thoughts on MH, without condoning or agreeing to anything else he has said & done in the past Confused

This

Definitelycross · 10/11/2022 11:00

SerenaTee · 10/11/2022 08:55

I agree, I saw a clip online this morning of him saying “next slide please” at the request of another camp mate, like it was a joke that we all sat there waiting to hear if we could visit our sick and dying relatives based on what he announced. I have no words for how wrong it is.

I saw that. It's sickening.

I usually watch I'm a Celeb, though not when it was in the UK. It's part of the countdown to Christmas. But this year it's off and deleting series link.

I'm disgusted with him and ITV and tbh any camp mates or Ant & Dec that don't leave because of it.

Mind you I'm also gobsmacked that someone married to a royal is in there too.

Billstopay · 10/11/2022 11:06

Can’t get worked up about it. He didn’t invent Covid, he announced rules “based on the science” which he didn’t make up. Yeah, he had an affair. Plenty of people do.

Lil50 · 10/11/2022 11:09

Why get ourselves angry about Mr Hancock? A pretty unworthy individual, faithless to his wife and his government. Not worth wasting anger on. Or your time watching this brainless programme.

warofthemonstertrucks · 10/11/2022 11:12

I manage care homes during the pandemic and still now and I managed to watch about ten minutes of him last night before turning it off in disgust.

warofthemonstertrucks · 10/11/2022 11:17

'He didn't invent covid'. No he didn't. But he lied and lied. And made decisions that made my life and those of my team and the people we support unbearable and dangerous. Decisions that were totally illogical that he then lied about and defended again and again. If I were him I wouldn't be able to show my face in public let alone go on a TV show acting like a clown.
People that didn't work in it or Jobs like it might be able to forget, but I don't think I will be able to.
I don't care about the affair, apart from
The aspect involving breaking his own bloody rules, (and I feel very sorry for his poor children in all of it), but I do care that about how disgracefully he behaved.

Notonthestairs · 10/11/2022 11:24

"Yeah, he had an affair. Plenty of people do."

Not many people use taxpayers money to employ their lover though.

RosalindsAFuckingNightmare · 10/11/2022 11:31

Rinoachicken · 10/11/2022 10:05

Can his constituency recall him - on account of him abandoning his constituents?

Imagine if you lived in his constituency and you needed to speak to your MP about something, write to them, get their help for something - you know, what they are supposed to be there for - but you can’t because he’s uncontactable on the other side of the world!

TBH I think they deserve all they get for having voted him in in the first place.

Blossomtoes · 10/11/2022 11:35

DeliberatelyObtuse · 10/11/2022 07:48

I was wondering whether the other camp mates would walk out in protest. That would mean the end of the show and would hit ITV in the pocket.

No it wouldn’t. If they walked out they’d be in breach of contract and they wouldn’t get paid. ITV could quite possibly sue them on top.

There’s a really easy solution if you don’t like it - just don’t watch it or read about it.

WatchoRulo · 10/11/2022 11:38

YANBU OP Matt Hancock is a cunt.

WatchoRulo · 10/11/2022 11:39

RosalindsAFuckingNightmare · 10/11/2022 11:31

TBH I think they deserve all they get for having voted him in in the first place.

My Tory MP might as well have fucked off to the Australian jungle for all the use she is. I contacted her about not being able to get a GP appointment - she couldn't have been less helpful.

Billstopay · 10/11/2022 11:41

My Labour MP doesn’t even reply to emails.

Trinity65 · 10/11/2022 11:41

YANBU

Maybebabyno2 · 10/11/2022 11:57

Personally, I think it's worse having BG in there. And then to have the audacity to get upset about Matt Hancock being in there. YUCK, he makes my skin crawl.

threecupsofscreams · 10/11/2022 12:06

I watched up until last night, I cannot being myself to watch it with him in there, the bottomless pit of immorality he represents is beneath contempt.

I hope the ratings dive enough for ITV execs to concede they fucked up.

threecupsofscreams · 10/11/2022 12:13

I might be wrong but I thing BG served his time in jail for the crime he committed with remorse and has been clean and sober since. I think the rehabilitated should not be perpetually punished when they have repented and sorted their lives out.

Matt Hancock on the other hand wouldn't know humility and remorse for the despicable choices he made and his behaviour since if it launched out of the sky and knocked him over.