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The one show - presenter is son of famous singer but what about giving my son a chance

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Neapolitanicecream · 07/11/2022 19:06

I just wish there was a fair crack for all our sons and daughters to get theses opportunities 🤢

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blueplantwindow · 07/11/2022 22:39

KatherineJaneway · 07/11/2022 22:17

So David Dimbleby has no talent?

I didn’t say he doesn’t have talent. But I bet having the father he did opened doors for him and his brother.

irishfeminist · 07/11/2022 22:44

Even Björk's daughter is shaping up to be one of those model/actress/whatever types. I know she's only 19 but she comes across as pretty vapid.

people.com/style/bjorks-daughter-isadora-bjarkardottir-barney-makes-modeling-debut-in-new-miu-miu-campaign/

RedWingBoots · 07/11/2022 22:45

blueplantwindow · 07/11/2022 22:39

I didn’t say he doesn’t have talent. But I bet having the father he did opened doors for him and his brother.

Going to Oxford uni would have helped a lot regardless of who his father was.

KatherineJaneway · 07/11/2022 22:45

blueplantwindow · 07/11/2022 22:39

I didn’t say he doesn’t have talent. But I bet having the father he did opened doors for him and his brother.

That is what you implied. Doors can be opened by famous family members of course but if you don't have the talent to make it once opened, they can shut very quickly.

TheMarzipanDildo · 07/11/2022 22:51

TalkisChips · 07/11/2022 22:22

Lila Moss is pretty but no different from half the girls wondering round town on a Saturday afternoon.

I feel like I roll my eyes every time I watch a film to find that the lead character is the director’s daughter or that the children of Hollywood stars are all actors. Of course they are.

I want to know what town you’re wandering round if you regularly see women as stunning as Lila Moss!

Not saying nepotism isn’t why she’s a model- of course it is, she’s not typical model height. I do think she has a model face though.

Abitofalark · 07/11/2022 22:54

KatherineJaneway · 07/11/2022 22:17

So David Dimbleby has no talent?

I wouldn't say that but I saw David Dimbleby talking about his early career recently - he has an autobiography to promote - and was surprised to hear him explaining why he was no good...I can't remember exactly whether it was as a news reporter or an interviewer - anyway he must have found a niche that suited him better, as he became very good at broadcasting, for example on Question Time and on important State occasions.

Diverging · 07/11/2022 22:55

It’s probably a combination of things.
Yes having famous parents definitely opened doors.
He’s physically attractive.
He’s got his own backstory. (Mental health etc).
He’s a competent presenter.
He comes across as a likeable person.

londonrach · 07/11/2022 22:58

I've a friend who works for the BBC...behind the scenes. His family have no connection with media, BBC, anything....they teachers. He worked vvvvv hard, ran a uni radio station and single minded working from the bottom to the top chasing his dream and doing alot of unpaid stuff till he broke into the bbc. He not the only one. His children won't be following in his footsteps as their interest is elsewhere

Ponoka7 · 07/11/2022 22:59

TheMarzipanDildo · 07/11/2022 22:51

I want to know what town you’re wandering round if you regularly see women as stunning as Lila Moss!

Not saying nepotism isn’t why she’s a model- of course it is, she’s not typical model height. I do think she has a model face though.

Come on a night out in Liverpool and Lila Moss wouldn't get a glance.

GordonShakespearedoesChristmas · 07/11/2022 23:04

Gagaandgag · 07/11/2022 19:33

I agree. I do quite like Roman from what I’ve seen - he is charismatic but I can’t stand the Beckhams son - I saw an article about him
and how he was calling himself a photographer and now he’s a ‘chef’ 😆

Can't stand them at any price but his photographs were quite well received I think?

Soreztee · 07/11/2022 23:06

No one is saying that all off spring of famous people have no talent. The point is rather that lots of other people
have equivalent talent. It is the experiences that the offspring get as a result of their parentage that help them develop that talent and grow their career. Why accept this status quo? Diversity is what helps industries grow. Organisations in receipt of public money have a duty to open up their opportunities to get the best talent.

Abitofalark · 07/11/2022 23:06

Sharkbite79 · 07/11/2022 22:25

Christine Lampard was well known working for BBC NI twenty years ago and moved to London to work on the One Show way before she met Lampard from what I remember!

She presented a very popular programme with Adrian Chiles which they then moved to a different channel where it flopped, if I remember right and she had no regular programme while he went on with other work at the BBC.

NCFT0922 · 07/11/2022 23:13

@Ponoka7 agree!!!

QueenOfHiraeth · 07/11/2022 23:17

It happens in so many fields. Mabel (the singer) is Neneh Cherry's daughter, Nikita Oliver is Andi Oliver's daughter, Tilly Ramsey is Gordon Ramsey's daughter and I suspect none are more talented than lots of other young people out there. Connections open doors, pure and simple
Its the same as actors and comedians writing books, known names help

NowThatsWhatICall22 · 07/11/2022 23:47

QueenOfHiraeth · 07/11/2022 23:17

It happens in so many fields. Mabel (the singer) is Neneh Cherry's daughter, Nikita Oliver is Andi Oliver's daughter, Tilly Ramsey is Gordon Ramsey's daughter and I suspect none are more talented than lots of other young people out there. Connections open doors, pure and simple
Its the same as actors and comedians writing books, known names help

Just a correction here, Miquita Oliver was well known before her mum, going back probably 15 years or something? I remember her presenting a long time ago. A good example of how in the media you can have lots of work one minute and then be off screens the next (even if you are still working successfully in your industry). Connections will not guarantee longevity in media jobs if you don’t have a baseline talent.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 07/11/2022 23:54

Beanbagtrap · 07/11/2022 19:27

This is every industry. Who you know matters. Why would people bother with private school otherwise? Being 'in the club' matters.

People don't like risk. Hiring your mate's son isn't risky as you know they have the same background as you, they know the same references, someone vouches for them etc etc.

This....

Much as I would want to be/be seen to be a very fair employer (If I was one!).... It s much less risk /less cost taking one someone that has been vouched for... By dint of connection.

Hiring the wrong person COST!

WiddlinDiddlin · 08/11/2022 04:34

Nepotism and 'its not what you know, its who you know' is present in every single industry known to man. That is simply the way humans are.

But getting into the media is not impossible by any means, for a start 'the media' covers such an unbelievably HUGE range of possible jobs and entry routes.

If you sit there determined to only look at 'talent' roles, front of camera/mic stuff and won't entertain anything else (ditto 'BBC nothing else') then yes, you are likely to be disappointed.

But there are myriad ways in, at the bottom, for those willing to work.

There are also more opportunities to be seen and known for being good at what you do now than ever before via social media - if you know what you're doing.

Those people whose parents are famous for whatever, they may have a bit of a headstart, sometimes a bit higher up the ladder, but if they've no talent or aptitude for the work, they will not last (which isn't to say they won't make a living, but there's no talent or integrity there and their lives likely aren't quite as glittering as they'd hoped for or want others to believe!)

Look at bit closer at some of those people who gained success because of who mummy/daddy where or who a boyfriends mummy was etc... often a closer look at their CV reveals a lot of what anyone else would call failure, and a lot of re-writing history.

Or inventing stories about silver cake slices and turds...

Soreztee · 08/11/2022 06:47

I am amazed that taking on a pal’s daughter is seen as ‘reducing risk’. Parents, for example, have huge blind spots about the talent/behaviour of their children. To my mind, it doesn’t reduce risk, it limits the talent pool and makes removing an unsuitable employee awkward. @Beanbagtrap @IamtheDevilsAvocado It’s depressing to hear this take and explains a lot about why organisations and public bodies reproduce themselves. I think it is because of this that laws around equality are necessary, plus requirements to report diversity, positive action and policies around levelling up.

Teeshirt · 08/11/2022 06:59

GordonShakespearedoesChristmas · 07/11/2022 23:04

Can't stand them at any price but his photographs were quite well received I think?

They definitely were not.

Teeshirt · 08/11/2022 07:05

Most TV jobs don’t need “talent”. Most are not in front of the camera or mic. Most are not directing or producing. I work in TV post-production. You sit in dark rooms usually by yourself. You might not see anyone else all day. It is not at all glamorous. You need to be a hard worker, have attention to detail, be able to hit tough productivity targets, work unsocial shifts and long days.

Changerofthename1 · 08/11/2022 07:16

Ponoka7 · 07/11/2022 22:59

Come on a night out in Liverpool and Lila Moss wouldn't get a glance.

Or Manchester or London or Glasgow….

mdh2020 · 08/11/2022 07:37

It’s the same in publishing. My DC both got vacation, then gap year, jobs in the same company. They were introduced by their aunt but the competition was very fierce. If they hadn’t been really good they would have been out in a minute. As it was, after uni, DS was offered a top job there .

NashvilleQueen · 08/11/2022 07:37

Sorry OP because I think you're making a perfectly valid point but because you've anchored it to one individual/programme you're getting a pile on.

Clearly there are people who have benefitted by their association (familial or otherwise) with already famous people. The fact that Tilly Ramsay got her own cooking show at the age of 15 or something was not because she was the best cook of that age but solely because of who she was. There are loads of examples like that and being mean about the OPs son in response is pathetic.

People get a leg up all the time in every industry. It can be direct door opening or indirect (tips and tricks passed on that many others may not know). Is it fair? No. Can we change it? Perhaps for the direct influence but much harder for the indirect. I wish your son well.

I will say however that I love the absolute averageness of the Beckham children. All that money and talent coursing through your genes and in every possible aspect they're all just totally average. It's quite reassuring really.

PauliesWalnuts · 08/11/2022 07:48

@NowThatsWhatICall22 possibly a correction on a correction - Miquita Oliver’s mum was in a band called Rip Rig + Panic with her best mate, Neneh Cherry. She’s always been pretty connected, just not in the public eye. People didn’t touch Miquita for a while as they didn’t want to be associated with someone with bad press (she didn’t pay a large tax bill).

NashvilleQueen · 08/11/2022 07:51

Lila Moss reminds me of Lowri Turner when she was younger.

One for the older crowd there!

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