Mexican-themed NYE party - racist, right?

[BobLobla]

Just been invited by very good friends to their NYE party which promises to have a Mexican theme and everyone must wear a long droopy moustache and a sombrero. Already I am cringing as I think this is pretty racist. Don't think I’ll go… but do I say something privately to my friends about the fact that this seems really off? Do I just dip out and not say anything to avoid awkwardness?

Ooh la la

Yeah this! And like a few pps have said on here today, I am SO FUCKING SICK of the tired and dreary and predictable woke agenda from the far left now. I think most people are tbh. The idea that nothing can be racist if you are white is disgusting. Shame on the people saying this!

@No499

my DH is Mexican. I told him about this thread and to him this is 100% cultural appropriation IN HIS OPINION.

I have fixed that for you - you're welcome.

The ‘fix’ wasn’t needed, as the ‘to him’ clearly implies that this is his opinion.

Stop speaking for minorities Purple.

So white people should only stand up to obscene racism, then?

This is hard work. Obviously not. There is plenty in between "obscene" and "grey area". They were just the examples I used to try and help you see what I meant. Which you have no intention to do.

You are just finding a reason to be annoyed now. Goodnight 🌟

@PurpleButterflyWings, nothing to fix. I said 'to him' which implies it's his opinion!

Thank you squeezita!

Wow, the Irish and travelling communities must be delighted to hear that. Nothing to see here folks.

I'm not annoyed at all.

Look, if I went to a party where non-Latino people were wearing fake long droopy moustaches and a sombrero, and the theme on my invite said 'Mexican', I would find this offensive. I'm not Latino, I'm black. I'd point that I found it offence because of articles like the one below, from Latino's.

I don't like tofu and I rarely read the Guardian, but if this belief makes me and white people who call this out as repugnant then guardian reading tofu eating wokerati I be.

If you're sick of the 'woke agenda' imagine how sick non-white people are of white supremacy, that's been rattling on for about 500 years now...

I'd say it's more stereotyping than racist.......

One in five is a majority? No, most Australians don't have convict ancestry. It's a very multiracial polyglot country these days.

What food to serve is the conundrum. You could get everyone to wear buffalo checks and rabbit fur hats. Though that might offend the vegans I guess, on behalf of the rabbits and buffalo.

What about those Canadian slops that consist of gravy and chips?

The point is there is quite a lot that there is no agreement on, including among the people who supposedly are the ones being offended against.

It is one thing to say something to someone who is, say, shouting real racial slurs at people, and another to call someone out for using a word where there are a lot of different opinions on the issue.

There are lots and lots of people who are not white, who belong to racialized groups, are PoC, who come from oppressed peoples, who don't buy into the typical American influenced stuff around CRT, cultural appropriation, and all the rest of it. There are even a fair number who hate it.

With this kind of thing I think a good rule of thumb, though it's not perfect, is to ask yourself, is there actually real substantial agreement on this among this group, and would I call out a person who belonged to this group for having this opinion? If you wouldn't, you maybe shouldn't call out anyone else over it either.

Cultural appropriation is a good example. With the exception of what you might call sacred objects or depictions that are overtly intended to be derogatory, there is a huge difference of opinion on this, especially outside the US. Even in the US, the people who are most likely to believe in cultural appropriation as a concept are white, Democrat, middle class, voters.

That being the case, calling others out on it is twattish. That doesn't mean it's not something that can be discussed, but that it totally different than calling people out.

I’m so tired of that fictional definition of racism that was spouted by a know it all Uni student on a TV show and was meant as a joke back in 2014. It became a meme, and now people today actually think it’s serious and a real definition. 🤪

Oh, poutine, yes, that has it's origins in Quebec but is pretty common everywhere now. You could do tortierre too of you want to go French-Canadian. Or, if it's a street food theme, maybe donair which is better than poutine IMO. Hawaiian pizza is Canadian too. Maybe with maple bacon donuts to round things out.

So the whole white people can't be victims of racism thing, is there a cut-off? So a Greek person can't be a victim but then a Turkish or Lebanese person can? And what if they look pretty much the same, are we going on nationality?
Maybe someone has a spreadsheet or something?

The people who are really into that stuff will come up with these weird definitions of "whiteness". So if you are a Traveler, say, you aren't white in that sense, even if you are very pale skinned.

On the other hand if you are someone like Rishi Sunak, you might get called "white adjacent". So the original sin of whiteness can still affect such a person despite him being fairly brown in the chromatic sense.

They never seem to follow these ideas to their logical conclusions, probably because if they did they would see how horrible such ideas are and would repudiate them.

@MangyInseam good points. Now that I think about it, haven't various Labour Party members made pretty sketchy comments about various non-white Tories?

No comedy allowed😂 Karen from Chiswick was not amused😂😂😂

@OMG12 Oh dear! I thought your post was actually hilarious! You know that second post will go up in a puff of smoke too now right? 😬 (Coz you mentioned THAT particular girl's name!)