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To be annoyed at DD’s punishment

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LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 04/11/2022 11:46

DD (9, Y5) has been getting picked on by a girl for a couple of years now. It seems to happen in peaks and troughs. But this girl’s focus is on DD’s height. She’s very small for her age, as is her dad. If you looked at her you’d think she was 7yo max. Her 5yo brother is only 2 inches shorter, and some of her friends are head and shoulders taller. And the girl picking on her constantly calls her titch, shorty, dwarf, shortarse and constantly pats her on the head like she’s a dog. If something has been said in class when they’re learning, for example the teacher describes a ‘small mountain’ this girl will shout out “Just like Emily” (meaning my DD, not her real name).

I raised it last year but she had a bit of a hippy teacher in his last year of teaching who said things like “I’ll work on empowering Emily” and “I’ll do a lesson on how name calling isn’t ok” - which is all very well but FFS just tell this girl to stop it!!!

I raised it with the head who is as much use as a chocolate fireguard and just says “Oh well these things happen and we do encourage resilience”. Which I agree with but one child can only take so much.

To avoid drip feeding - this is a private school with very low numbers and the bully girl is one of 5 siblings. I’ve strongly suspected they don’t want to upset the family in case they pull all their kids out. It seems to be a pattern with wealthy/large families, whereas I only have 2 in school.

Anyway I spoke to her new teacher in the first day of term and said it absolutely cannot happen this year as DD is starting to dread school and has come home crying too often, and I don’t wanna have to pull her out. New teacher is much more of a ball buster than last year’s teacher and said she’d directly pull any name calling or mean behaviour. And all seemed to go well this term (except for the odd incident). Until today.

DD’s teacher called me to say that all her break times will be removed next week and she will have to stay indoors. Apparently the bully girl made a comment when DD was asked to pin something she’s done on a display the wall. She said “Someone get Emily a stepladder”.

DD replied and said “I may be short but at least I’m not fat.” The girl in question is quite overweight. She burst into tears and DD has had that punishment.

Now I’m not condoning what DD said, I’ve always said we never talk about how people look because look how awful it makes someone feel. But after 2 years of grief from this girl when there’s been NO action taken against her, my DD seemingly has snapped and now is being punished for 1 offence. The bully girl was made to apologise but isn’t getting the same punishment.

Full disclosure: DH has suggested before that DD say this to the girl (to which I promptly said FGS NO don’t say that!). But bear in mind we had her coming home upset and crying yet again by this nasty girl who just won’t fucking stop.DH got fed up and said that if she can comment on DD’s height the only way to stop it is to bite back equally as hard. Which I don’t agree with - but I bet that’s why DD’s said it.

WIBU to see the Head and say this is unfair, yes DD should be punished but why hasn’t the other girl ever had a punishment once? Why is fat shaming terrible but height shaming ok and should be tolerated? Neither can be helped of children. I did tell her teacher I’m not happy but she seemed to think it was much more unacceptable what DD said than what the other girl said!

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Nosleepforthismum · 04/11/2022 14:50

I’d be high fiving my daughter for standing up for herself. Some kids are arseholes and this one certainly deserved what was said. The school sound useless but I’d be taking her out for pizza and icecream in celebration.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 04/11/2022 14:54

I’d be bloody furious - your poor dd. I’d be speaking in very strong terms to the head, and contacting the governors with the history.
It’s utterly unacceptable that the bully girl has been getting away with it for so long!

TBH the teachers sound pathetically, cringingly wet!

Poppyseed14 · 04/11/2022 14:55

That's shocking OP. But at the same time I'm proud of your girl for sticking up for herself ❤️

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 04/11/2022 14:56

Not to mention clueless about typical bully-behaviour - i.e making themselves out to be the poor victim when their prey hits back for once.

menopausalbloat · 04/11/2022 14:57

Wow, a bully who can't take being bullied? I'd be fking furious if this was happening to my kid over such a prolonged period.

Pumpkin20222 · 04/11/2022 14:58

This has been handled so poorly by the school. I would write a letter detailing the ongoing bullying your DD has received and your concerns at the lack of action from the school.

andmostofallyouletyourselfdown · 04/11/2022 14:58

I have voted YABU because you have choosen to keep your daughter in a bullying situation which is affecting her emotionally and probably academically, for two years, with a succession of useless teachers including the head, in a school you are PAYING for them to attend!

You would be very unreasonable indeed to not now give notice at the next opportunity and move your children to somewhere better.

I haven't RTFT so this may have been said by someone else already.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 04/11/2022 15:01

I raised it last year but she had a bit of a hippy teacher in his last year of teaching who said things like “I’ll work on empowering Emily” and “I’ll do a lesson on how name calling isn’t ok” - which is all very well but FFS just tell this girl to stop it!!!

I raised it with the head who is as much use as a chocolate fireguard and just says “Oh well these things happen and we do encourage resilience”. Which I agree with but one child can only take so much.

I'd be so tempted to say that their empowerment lessons have paid off & this is Emily's new resilience. Perhaps Fat Bully needs empowerment & resilience lessons too?

mileaminute · 04/11/2022 15:01

The amount of money that headteacher will be earning for hiding away in his office and providing ineffectual leadership makes my blood boil.

TrashyPanda · 04/11/2022 15:02

I endured racist taunts about my father, because he was not British.

one day, a boy spat on me and told me my father was a “bloody XYZ”.
that pushed me beyond endurance and I said something I probably should not have.

but he never said anything racist to me again.

and Dad thoroughly approved!

Fleurdaisy · 04/11/2022 15:03

PuttingDownRoots · 04/11/2022 11:57

Bully has now learnt she will get away with it.

I'd be looking for a new school for both your children tbh. And asking for notice not to be charged due to their lack of care.

This.
After removing my children, I’d hope there’d be somewhere I could leave a review of the school.

PinkCheetah · 04/11/2022 15:05

Nah I'm with your DH. My lion mama senses say that other girl got what was due 🤷‍♀️

Anyway I'd consider pulling your daughter from the school. No way do they deserve to get your money.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 04/11/2022 15:07

Your daughter has put up this this bully for long enough. I would be saying that your daughter did nothing wrong here. The school openly allows abuse about size which she has been subjected to for a pre longer period. They literally modelled the behaviour so why shouldn’t your daughter say this? I would be fuming if she was punished for this. Like proper fucking fuming.

Pearls1234 · 04/11/2022 15:09

Also why does Emily have to build resilience and deal with it while this horrible bully doesn’t? 😡

Muddypawsandraindrops · 04/11/2022 15:10

I would pull your Daughter out of school. The school won't do anything and it will continue.
I had the same when my DD was at primary and it got so bad I removed her from the school. The best decision I ever made. She was being bullied by an older child. The school did not stop it. The final straw was when I got called in by her teacher to say my DD was extremely upset and can I come in for a chat. It turned out this older child took her away in the playgroup and tried to suffocate her but putting her hands over her nose and mouth. A child who should of been old enough to know how wrong it was. Even now, it makes my blood boil. The older child was seen and reported but nothing was done. This was a small private school. I took her out then and there and managed to get her a place at another school which she thrived at.

tootiredtospeak · 04/11/2022 15:11

Listen its shit and annoying but fuck it she stood up to her so if she has to do the punishment tell her to own it. Dont make her feel bad about it one bit. Tell her next time to use a more pointed response if she feels strong enough. For example...sorry bully why exactly would I need the step ladder. Teacher what does she mean by that...is she commenting on my height. Is that okay to do that but not point out when someone is overweight.

OriginalUsername2 · 04/11/2022 15:14

Good for her. I’d say take the punishment and keep calling her fat every time she calls her short. They do encourage resilience after all!

Topseyt123 · 04/11/2022 15:18

Good on your DD. She has reached the end of her rope and given the bully girl what she richly deserved. I would normally say that nobody should comment on anyone else's weight, but in this instance I think I would make an exception because your DD dealt with this girl using the only language she would understand.

I do hope you let the wishy washy headteacher have both barrels this afternoon. Tell him too that your DD's punishment is to be rescinded forthwith in light of the two years of bullying she has received from the other girl, which his school totally failed to deal with. Tell him that if it isn't you are likely to give notice and withdraw DD from the school.

The school absolutely do not HAVE to punish your DD. She was pushed beyond endurance for TWO YEARS by this little bitch, who was simply allowed to get away with it.

YouTarzan · 04/11/2022 15:26

So cross on your behalf - sounds like its time to read them the riot act

itsgettingweird · 04/11/2022 15:27

Good luck at the meeting.

Scottishskifun · 04/11/2022 15:30

Be proud of your DD she showed resilience.
I would live to know the difference between length and width!

I hope the meeting goes well sounds like the bully got a tiny taste of her own medicine!

BleuNoir · 04/11/2022 15:32

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet we're also at a small private school. DS also being bullied by his whole class.

The school keep on having "let's be kind" chats with the whole class which does fuck all.

I am so angry that I pay £15k a year plus and no one seems to care. They keep saying they're doing something and then they don't really follow through.

You're 100% right that big families have leverage. All the big loyal families (who've been there since reception) - all their kids have been made prefects this year. They's stuck in a few token others here and there who joined later but the majority are all the old crew from the start with 3 or 4 kids at the school.

The favourtism is rampant.

And the bullying of various kids.

You're right they daren't upset the applecart as they don't want families leaving, all they see are pound signs and the fear of losing them. It's just shit. I am now thinking to move DS to a state school for the last 2 terms of Year 6 because at least there he might have a chance not being bullied....

Whydoiwearsomuchleopardprint · 04/11/2022 15:36

Similar happened at the private school my kids were at, the bullying was ignored and I’m sure it was because the other child was a scholar, in the A team for sport etc etc , in the end my kids hated school so much that I took them out! Even when other parents told them they had witnessed this child bullying nothing was done, it was unbelievable! At new school now and very happy thank goodness! UNBU, I totally get how upsetting this is.

MeridianB · 04/11/2022 15:39

BleuNoir · 04/11/2022 15:32

@LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet we're also at a small private school. DS also being bullied by his whole class.

The school keep on having "let's be kind" chats with the whole class which does fuck all.

I am so angry that I pay £15k a year plus and no one seems to care. They keep saying they're doing something and then they don't really follow through.

You're 100% right that big families have leverage. All the big loyal families (who've been there since reception) - all their kids have been made prefects this year. They's stuck in a few token others here and there who joined later but the majority are all the old crew from the start with 3 or 4 kids at the school.

The favourtism is rampant.

And the bullying of various kids.

You're right they daren't upset the applecart as they don't want families leaving, all they see are pound signs and the fear of losing them. It's just shit. I am now thinking to move DS to a state school for the last 2 terms of Year 6 because at least there he might have a chance not being bullied....

@BleuNoir can you move him? You shouldn’t have to but the school sounds awful. This kind of relentless lion’s den school experience can be so damaging. Hope your son has a lovely weekend. ❤️

MatronicO6 · 04/11/2022 15:40

YANBU! I would be furious. You are absolutely right to point out their double standards.